tazinib1 Posted September 7, 2010 Share Posted September 7, 2010 Disgraceful Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
millerx Posted September 7, 2010 Share Posted September 7, 2010 (edited) Ouch! the first player in the 75 year history of the award?!? Geez... Kinda makes you think twice about just how guilty he was. But then again, it's not like he killed his ex-wife and a friendly waiter by slitting their throats to the point of (almost) decapitation. Edited September 8, 2010 by millerx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perchoutofwater Posted September 7, 2010 Share Posted September 7, 2010 Anybody that watched football that year knows Vince Young should have won it anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dallas Sooner Posted September 7, 2010 Share Posted September 7, 2010 Anybody that watched football that year knows Vince Young should have won it anyway. No joke, that was an embarassment. Same can be said the year Jason White won it over Leinart when SC destroyed my Sooners. The Heisman should be announced after the bowls. Why limit it to most of the season, and not all of the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lennykravitz2004 Posted September 7, 2010 Share Posted September 7, 2010 OJ still has his? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dallas Sooner Posted September 7, 2010 Share Posted September 7, 2010 OJ still has his? He wasnt proved to be ineligible for the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Square Posted September 8, 2010 Share Posted September 8, 2010 He wasnt proved to be ineligible for the season. Look I hate the guy to, but he was found "non guilty" on the criminal charges. Back to Bush, being ruled ineligible does make some sense that he therefore cannot have won the Heisman. Being a dirt bag / psycho later in life doesn't necessarily mean that you weren't the best college player that year. My opinion is that they will strip the Heisman because they don't really have anything else they can do. For the most part he broke the rules and (like P. Carroll) got off without anything personally affecting him (other than his college removing his trophies and spamshirts). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donutrun Jellies Posted September 8, 2010 Share Posted September 8, 2010 Makes simples sense. He wasn't eligible to play, he wasn't eligible to win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piratesownninjas Posted September 8, 2010 Share Posted September 8, 2010 Wow... So killing your ex wife and her friend, followed up a few years later with felony robbery doesn't get your heisman taken back... What a joke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piratesownninjas Posted September 8, 2010 Share Posted September 8, 2010 He wasnt proved to be ineligible for the season. Look I hate the guy to, but he was found "non guilty" on the criminal charges. Back to Bush, being ruled ineligible does make some sense that he therefore cannot have won the Heisman. Being a dirt bag / psycho later in life doesn't necessarily mean that you weren't the best college player that year. My opinion is that they will strip the Heisman because they don't really have anything else they can do. For the most part he broke the rules and (like P. Carroll) got off without anything personally affecting him (other than his college removing his trophies and spamshirts). I just don't think it makes sense to go back and re-write history. He wasn't cheating by taking steroids or anything else, he was simply the best player on the field sans Vince Young. I get your position, but if you're going to go back and re-write history, remove the wife murdering monster as well... Oh, Dallas Sooner, you doing all right in all of this weather? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pope Flick Posted September 9, 2010 Share Posted September 9, 2010 Wow... So killing your ex wife and her friend, followed up a few years later with felony robbery doesn't get your heisman taken back... What a joke. Why should it? It isn't a civilian behavior award, it's awarded for achievements on the football field. Bush wasn't eligible to even play so it's clear he wasn't eligible to win it. And like it or not, OJ was found not guilty of murder so you want to strip him of an award based on a crime he was acquited for. That makes no sense. In the end, the whole OJ argument is irrelevant straw man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piratesownninjas Posted September 9, 2010 Share Posted September 9, 2010 And like it or not, OJ was found not guilty of murder so you want to strip him of an award based on a crime he was acquited for. That makes no sense. In the end, the whole OJ argument is irrelevant straw man. So what about the felony robbery? Is he not locked up as we speak? Like I said, I understand what the above posts are saying, or where it comes from but in the end Reggie Bush wasn't doing anything to cheat on the field. I think it makes the Heisman trust look silly to act as if no one won the heisman in 2005. I think it's even more asinine to act like Bush didn't win it when you have someone locked up in prison who is still allowed to have his. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keggerz Posted September 9, 2010 Share Posted September 9, 2010 (edited) imagine how different this would be if the guys that vote for DROY had a say in this. Edited September 12, 2010 by keggerz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockerbraves Posted September 9, 2010 Share Posted September 9, 2010 So what about the felony robbery? Is he not locked up as we speak? Like I said, I understand what the above posts are saying, or where it comes from but in the end Reggie Bush wasn't doing anything to cheat on the field. I think it makes the Heisman trust look silly to act as if no one won the heisman in 2005. I think it's even more asinine to act like Bush didn't win it when you have someone locked up in prison who is still allowed to have his. LSU's only Heisman winner (1959) Billy Cannon pleaded guilty to counterfeiting charges back in 1983 served jail time and was later inducted into the College Football Hall of Fame. Cannon's #20 LSU jersey is still the only Tiger jersey to ever be retired. Just saying.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rajncajn Posted September 9, 2010 Share Posted September 9, 2010 It may very well happen, but keep in mind every bit of negative reporting that has been done on this subject has come from Jason Cole & Yahoo sports and there have been a lot of inaccuracies and speculation reported as fact on their part. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaterMan Posted September 11, 2010 Share Posted September 11, 2010 Will they re-award the Heisman if this happens? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keggerz Posted September 12, 2010 Share Posted September 12, 2010 Will they re-award the Heisman if this happens? I think I remember reading/hearing that they would NOT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pope Flick Posted September 13, 2010 Share Posted September 13, 2010 So what about the felony robbery? Is he not locked up as we speak? Like I said, I understand what the above posts are saying, or where it comes from but in the end Reggie Bush wasn't doing anything to cheat on the field. I think it makes the Heisman trust look silly to act as if no one won the heisman in 2005. I think it's even more asinine to act like Bush didn't win it when you have someone locked up in prison who is still allowed to have his. By being on the field, Bush was cheating. What's so hard to understand about an award based ONLY on legitimate on field accomplishments? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWPFFL BrianW Posted September 13, 2010 Share Posted September 13, 2010 No joke, that was an embarassment. Same can be said the year Jason White won it over Leinart when SC destroyed my Sooners. The Heisman should be announced after the bowls. Why limit it to most of the season, and not all of the season. Matt Leinart did win it the year that USC destroyed OU. Jason White won it in 2003. Shoulda gone to Larry Fitzgerald, but that's just my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pope Flick Posted September 14, 2010 Share Posted September 14, 2010 Now it's being reported Bush will return the Heisman in lieu of a ruling from the Board. Astonishing, really, since it's clear they didn't teach ethics at USC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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