detlef Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 Well...we could start with the Ohio State vs Michigan a few years back. 1) OSU vs Mich will always be a huge game. It's a huge game when both or even one of them aren't even all that good. With both teams undefeated going in? Are you implying that either one would have mailed it in if they both knew they were assured of a spot in the 8 team play-off? 2) We were inches away from not having it matter who won in terms of making it in to the current 2 team play-off as it was because it took FL leap-frogging Michigan a few weeks later (which caused no shortage of outrage) to kick the loser of that game out of the NC game. 3) Both got clowned in their respective bowls which once again illustrates how hard it is to determine who the two most deserving teams should be to play for it all. So it is quite possible that neither would have been playing for all the marbles which makes the fact that we almost had a re-match of those two for the NC game yet another indictment of the system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockerbraves Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 (edited) Are you implying that either one would have mailed it in if they both knew they were assured of a spot in the 8 team play-off? Not saying they would mail it in, but just explaining how a playoff of 8 teams would/could diminish the regular season. I know it does for me. Take for example last week when the Saints lost. Not happy, but it's certainly a little easier to take knowing they still have a shot to win it all. I'm not opposed to a playoff but I'll defend having one does diminish the regular season somewhat. Granted it makes it better for the losers of those big games, but it does diminish the importance of certain regular season games. Another example this week is LSU beating Florida. As fun as that was it's not quite as good as beating the best SEC Western division team because it's real possible LSU could see them Gators again in the SEC playoffs. Edited October 13, 2010 by Rockerbraves Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildcat2334 Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 Not saying they would mail it in, but just explaining how a playoff of 8 teams would/could diminish the regular season. I know it does for me. Take for example last week when the Saints lost. Not happy, but it's certainly a little easier to take knowing they still have a shot to win it all. I'm not opposed to a playoff but I'll defend having one does diminish the regular season somewhat. Granted it makes it better for the losers of those big games, but it does diminish the importance of certain regular season games. Another example this week is LSU beating Florida. As fun as that was it's not quite as good as beating the best SEC Western division team because it's real possible LSU could see them Gators again in the SEC playoffs. couldn't disagreee more- if anything it would enhance the regular season. It is rare when teams run the table, so all the good teams sitting there with 1L, are still going to fight like hell to make the final 8. These kids play 11, 12 game schedules I don't know about you, but even with 16 game schedules NFL games are always important if they are in the playoff chase - this is nonsense rocker. I absolutely hate the idea of the current system that penalizes a team for scheduling a brutal non conference matchup, losing it- and facing an uphill battle all season - when the reality is they very well could be the best team in the country at the end of the year- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockerbraves Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 I absolutely hate the idea of the current system that penalizes a team for scheduling a brutal non conference matchup, losing it- and facing an uphill battle all season - when the reality is they very well could be the best team in the country at the end of the year- Those tough non conference games also enhance teams chances of playing in the big game. Granted it hurts the loser but it certainly helps the winners. Both winners of the Ohio State vs Texas matchups did well and it certainly helped LSU beating Virginia Tech and last year's season opening win by Bama help place them on the BCS map. . Your last statement pretty much summerizes the pros and the cons of a playoff. Playoffs help decide the best team at the end of the season not the entire season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildcat2334 Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 Those tough non conference games also enhance teams chances of playing in the big game. Granted it hurts the loser but it certainly helps the winners. Both winners of the Ohio State vs Texas matchups did well and it certainly helped LSU beating Virginia Tech and last year's season opening win by Bama help place them on the BCS map. . Your last statement pretty much summerizes the pros and the cons of a playoff. Playoffs help decide the best team at the end of the season not the entire season. right - which is how it should be and a s a fan of a 116 win Seattle Mariners, multiple 50+ Seattle Supersonics teams and a 12 win Seahakws fan I can tell you................... YOU DON'T WIN JACK CHIT IN THE REGULAR SEASON Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockerbraves Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 (edited) right - which is how it should be and a s a fan of a 116 win Seattle Mariners, multiple 50+ Seattle Supersonics teams and a 12 win Seahakws fan I can tell you................... YOU DON'T WIN JACK CHIT IN THE REGULAR SEASON You have to admit then, as a fan of those clubs the excitement of the regular season is certainly diminished. Edited October 13, 2010 by Rockerbraves Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detlef Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 Those tough non conference games also enhance teams chances of playing in the big game. Granted it hurts the loser but it certainly helps the winners. Both winners of the Ohio State vs Texas matchups did well and it certainly helped LSU beating Virginia Tech and last year's season opening win by Bama help place them on the BCS map. . Your last statement pretty much summerizes the pros and the cons of a playoff. Playoffs help decide the best team at the end of the season not the entire season. No, what is rewarded is scheduling teams that are traditional powers but may not be all that in the particular year you play them. The Texas team that OSU beat was the defending Nat'l Champ but nowhere near as good as the previous year and lost, I think, 3-4 times before the season was over. Regardless, both Texas and OSU were undefeated those years and, considering who they are, were going to get the benefit of the doubt anyway. Neither needed those wins to get the stamp of approval. As for V Tech. When was the last time they beat anyone of consequence? They feast on a crappy ACC schedule and then routinely get about the easiest BCS match-up. Beating V Tech sounds better than beating, say Arkansas or Utah, but only because Arkansas almost never sniffs the SEC title and Utah is not a BCS school (though you'd have a hard time convincing me that they wouldn't own the shabby ACC just like Tech does). V Tech is the team everyone wants to play because they're really not that good but everyone thinks they are and, by default, they're going to worm their way back to the top 10 by the end of the season. I mean, they're solid enough to beat bad teams, but anyone with title aspirations should have no trouble with them at all. So, this is just another random wrinkle in the selection process. Schedule someone known enough that you can point to them on your schedule and say, "Hey, we beat V Tech. Get off my back.", but not actually elite. However, until Bama and Florida start playing OU and USC and OSU starts playing LSU and company, not once every 5-10 years, but every year, we'll be stuck in this same BS. But nobody is going to do that. They're going to continue picking the lowest hanging fruit that still seems cool and leave it up to ESPN to make it sound like a clash of the titans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockerbraves Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 So, this is just another random wrinkle in the selection process. Schedule someone known enough that you can point to them on your schedule and say, "Hey, we beat V Tech. Get off my back.", but not actually elite. However, until Bama and Florida start playing OU and USC and OSU starts playing LSU and company, not once every 5-10 years, but every year, we'll be stuck in this same BS. But nobody is going to do that. They're going to continue picking the lowest hanging fruit that still seems cool and leave it up to ESPN to make it sound like a clash of the titans. LSU and Oregon are scheduled to play next season. And this was just scheduled recently not years ago. So I don't think anyone is DUCKing anyone in this one. Unless Oregon is a one or two year wonder team because LSU should actually be pretty strong next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildcat2334 Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 LSU and Oregon are scheduled to play next season. And this was just scheduled recently not years ago. So I don't think anyone is DUCKing anyone in this one. Unless Oregon is a one or two year wonder team because LSU should actually be pretty strong next season. for some reason I just don't see LSU going to Eugene to play the Duck in Autzen.................just sayin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detlef Posted October 13, 2010 Share Posted October 13, 2010 LSU and Oregon are scheduled to play next season. And this was just scheduled recently not years ago. So I don't think anyone is DUCKing anyone in this one. Unless Oregon is a one or two year wonder team because LSU should actually be pretty strong next season. for some reason I just don't see LSU going to Eugene to play the Duck in Autzen.................just sayin Regardless, this is what we should be getting, every year. But it's not. It's just one game. And 4 years from now, when this argument comes up again, someone will point at it and say, "LSU played Oregon in 2011" Look at NCAA hoops. The entire month of December is filled with top teams butting heads against each other. Why is that? Because they know that losing a game here and there is not going to keep them out of the big dance. Now, mind you, I've said it more than once, I think the B-ball tourney is quite possibly just as flawed as Football for the exact opposite reason, that way too many teams make it in the play-offs. However, as a product, you can't argue that it isn't far more compelling. So even if it's no better at determining who the best team in the country is, it sure beats the hell out of one game that means something (assuming most people agree that the two most deserving teams are playing in it) and a bunch of games that are good for little more than nursing a hangover. Hell, look at the pools. Everyone and their mother fills out a bracket. In football? A handful of die-hards who hang out on sites like this do the same. There's your Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockerbraves Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 Look at NCAA hoops. The entire month of December is filled with top teams butting heads against each other. Why is that? Because they know that losing a game here and there is not going to keep them out of the big dance. I luv this analogy. Whats more exciting a trapeze artist perfoming with or without a safety net? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detlef Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 I luv this analogy. Whats more exciting a trapeze artist perfoming with or without a safety net? Depends, if the trapeze artist without a net is just swinging back and forth and not doing any tricks because they're afraid of falling (ie: teams loading up on cupcakes and "solid" teams to increase their chances of going undefeated), then I guess I'd rather watch someone busting serious moves over a net because they realize that falling won't be deadly. Sure, all things being equal, if they're both selling it out, it's more exciting to watch the guy without the net. But that's not happening, because teams aren't selling it out. They're working the system. Scheduling elite teams just often enough so that they can point to those games as justification of their schedule and filling in the rest with decent teams with names we know. OSU and Texas will be pointing to that home and home for 10 years, you'll be milking that LSU v Oregon bit for just as long. Meanwhile, all of the above will be feasting on crap teams and relying on the strength of conference bit. Worst case scenario: teams rest a few starters in the final week because they're certain they make the play-off. However, if you make the first round games home games for the top 4 seeds (which would make a lot of sense for a variety of reasons), this will nearly eliminate that happening, because almost nobody is assured a top 4 ranking regardless of the final week's outcome. But let's just say it does. OK, so now you've traded in an game like this every now and then for a bunch of games that actually matter instead of exhibition games. I'll take that swap. Again, we're talking about 8 or so teams. It's not like you can lose twice and be assured of making the cut. Hell, some can't afford to lose once and be top 8. So it's not like the regular season won't matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockerbraves Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 for some reason I just don't see LSU going to Eugene to play the Duck in Autzen.................just sayin Not sure why? Did you know LSU has played at USC, Washington, Arizona and Arizona State, so why not Autzen? . Granted the USC game was back in the 80's, but it's not like USC or Oregon wants to visit Tiger Stadium much either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockerbraves Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 Again, we're talking about 8 or so teams. It's not like you can lose twice and be assured of making the cut. Hell, some can't afford to lose once and be top 8. So it's not like the regular season won't matter. Look I'm not defending not having a playoff just the idea that if a playoff did exist it would somewhat deminish the regular season. And then what do you do with the conference championship games? Do you still play them? Or do you simply split the conference championships each year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEC=UGA Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 Anyone here want to give me some play and I'll take Oregon in that game next year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockerbraves Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 Anyone here want to give me some play and I'll take Oregon in that game next year? You may not have to wait till next year if Oregon can take care of their business this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEC=UGA Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 You may not have to wait till next year if Oregon can take care of their business this year. I'll spot you 13.5 if they meet this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detlef Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 Look I'm not defending not having a playoff just the idea that if a playoff did exist it would somewhat deminish the regular season. And then what do you do with the conference championship games? Do you still play them? Or do you simply split the conference championships each year? Don't give me that crap. Every time a play-off gets mentioned around here, you're right there explaining why it's a bad idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockerbraves Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 I'll spot you 13.5 if they meet this year. No you won't You arn't that dumb are you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEC=UGA Posted October 15, 2010 Share Posted October 15, 2010 (edited) No you won't You arn't that dumb are you? 34 to 20 ain't that much of a stretch in that game, is it? We could do a sig line bet, something like... I luv UGA wimmen better than the LSU wimmen because they have a full set of teeth... Edited October 15, 2010 by SEC=UGA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delusions of grandeur Posted October 15, 2010 Share Posted October 15, 2010 Look I'm not defending not having a playoff just the idea that if a playoff did exist it would somewhat deminish the regular season. And then what do you do with the conference championship games? Do you still play them? Or do you simply split the conference championships each year? What does it matter, when a bunch of the big conferences don't even play championships? Right now playing in the championship actually hurts good teams who have to play that extra tough quality game if they lose it, and even if they win, it often isn't good enough to leap frog teams that don't even play a conference championship. If it's an 8 team playoff, then you're probably still talking all undefeated, one-loss and maybe some two-loss teams. That means you still have to win 10-11 games, which to me, still makes the season games just as important, and actually moreso for teams that only have 1 loss. Damn, you guys reeled me in again... Is there a topic on this CFB board that doesn't just turn into a conference pissing contest? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akfatha Posted October 15, 2010 Share Posted October 15, 2010 What does it matter, when a bunch of the big conferences don't even play championships? Right now playing in the championship actually hurts good teams who have to play that extra tough quality game if they lose it, and even if they win, it often isn't good enough to leap frog teams that don't even play a conference championship. If it's an 8 team playoff, then you're probably still talking all undefeated, one-loss and maybe some two-loss teams. That means you still have to win 10-11 games, which to me, still makes the season games just as important, and actually moreso for teams that only have 1 loss. Damn, you guys reeled me in again... Is there a topic on this CFB board that doesn't just turn into a conference pissing contest? that'll be the day! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWPFFL BrianW Posted October 15, 2010 Share Posted October 15, 2010 (edited) As some of you know, I've been a proponent of a 12 team playoff. I've tweaked it a bit over the years but it has relatively stayed the same. * Top 4 BCS Conference Champions get 1st round byes based on the BCS Standings * No limit on how many teams a conference can get * Would try to avoid match ups between conference rivals within the first 2 rounds. Sometimes it is impossible to avoid * Your top 6 would feature the aforementioned Top 4, plus the final 2 BCS Conference Champions would receive automatic bids and be seeds 5 and 6 I would also be open to simply re-seed after the 1st round as well, but here is how the BCS-era would've shaped out, based on the final BCS Standings of each season. Try and tell me you folks wouldn't have been loving some of those match ups and potential match ups. If I made any mistakes, then by all means point them out, but I for one would love this. It gives enough regular season incentive to all involved, and the poor little trash mid majors like Boise would have their "one shining moment" as well. 1998 1. Tennessee -- SEC Champions 2. Florida State -- ACC Champions 3. UCLA -- Pac 10 Champions 4. Texas A & M -- Big 12 Champions 5. Wisconsin -- Big Ten Champions 6. Syracuse -- Big East Champions 7. Kansas State 8. Ohio State 9. Arizona 10. Florida 11. Tulane 12. Nebraska 5. Wisconsin vs 11. Tulane Winner vs Texas A & M 6. Syracuse vs 12. Nebraska Winner vs UCLA 7. Kansas State vs 10. Florida Winner vs Florida State 8. Ohio State vs 9. Arizona Winner vs Tennessee 1999 1. Florida State -- ACC Champions 2. Virginia Tech -- Big East Champions 3. Nebraska -- Big 12 Champions 4. Alabama -- SEC Champions 5. Wisconsin -- Big Ten Champions 6. Stanford -- Pac 10 Champions 7. Tennessee 8. Kansas State 9. Michigan 10. Michigan State 11. Florida 12. Penn State 5. Wisconsin vs 11. Florida vs Alabama 6. Stanford vs 12. Penn State vs Nebraska 7. Tennessee vs 10. Michigan State vs Virginia Tech 8. Kansas State vs 9. Michigan vs Florida State 2000 1. Oklahoma -- Big 12 Champions 2. Florida State -- ACC Champions 3. Miami -- Big East Champions 4. Washington -- Pac 10 Champions 5. Florida -- SEC Champions 6. Purdue -- Big Ten Champions 7. Oregon State 8. Virginia tech 9. Nebraska 10. Kansas State 11. Oregon 12. Notre Dame 5. Florida vs 12. Notre Dame vs Washington 6. Purdue vs 11. Oregon vs Miami 7. Oregon State vs 10. Kansas State vs Florida State 8. Virginia Tech vs 9. Nebraska vs Oklahoma 2001 1. Miami -- Big East Champions 2. Oregon -- Pac 10 Champions 3. Colorado -- Big 12 Champions 4. Illinois -- Big Ten Champions 5. Maryland -- ACC Champions 6. LSU -- SEC Champions 7. Nebraska 8. Florida 9. Tennessee 10. Texas 11. Stanford 12. Oklahoma 5. Maryland vs 12. Oklahoma vs Illinois 6. LSU vs 11. Stanford vs Colorado 7. Nebraska vs 9. Tennessee vs Oregon 8. Florida vs 10. Texas vs Miami 2002 1. Miami -- Big East Champions 2. Ohio State -- Big Ten Champions 3. Georgia -- SEC Champions 4. Washington State -- Pac 10 Champions 5. Oklahoma -- Big 12 Champions 6. Florida State -- ACC Champions 7. USC 8. Iowa 9. Kansas State 10. Notre Dame 11. Texas 12. Michigan 5. Oklahoma vs 12. Michigan vs Washington State 6. Florida State vs 11. Texas vs Georgia 7. USC vs 10. Notre Dame vs Ohio State 8. Iowa vs 9. Kansas State vs Miami 2003 1. LSU -- SEC Champions 2. USC -- Pac 10 Champions 3. Michigan -- Big Ten Champions 4. Florida State -- ACC Champions 5. Miami -- Big East Champions 6. Kansas State -- Big 12 Champions 7. Oklahoma 8. Ohio State 9. Texas 10. Tennessee 11. Miami (OH) 12. Georgia 5. Miami vs 12. Georgia vs Florida State 6. Kansas State vs 11. Miami (OH) vs Michigan 7. Oklahoma vs 10. Tennessee vs USC 8. Ohio State vs 9. Texas vs LSU 2004 1. USC -- Pac 10 Champions 2. Oklahoma -- Big 12 Champions 3. Auburn -- SEC Champions 4. Virginia Tech -- ACC Champions 5. Michigan -- Big Ten Champions 6. Pittsburgh -- Big East Champions 7. Texas 8. California 9. Utah 10. Georgia 11. Boise State 12. Louisville 5. Michigan vs 12. Louisville vs Virginia Tech 6. Pittsburgh vs 11. Boise State vs Auburn 8. California vs 10. Georgia vs Oklahoma 7. Texas vs 9. Utah vs USC 2005 1. USC -- Pac 10 Champions 2. Texas -- Big 12 Champions 3. Penn State -- Big Ten Champions 4. Georgia -- SEC Champions 5. West Virginia -- Big East Champions 6. Florida State -- ACC Champions 7. Ohio State 8. Oregon 9. Notre Dame 10. Miami 11. Virginia Tech 12. LSU 5. West Virginia vs 11. Virginia Tech vs Georgia 6. Florida State vs 12. LSU vs Penn State 8. Oregon vs Miami vs Texas 7. Ohio State vs 9. Notre Dame vs USC 2006 1. Ohio State -- Big Ten Champions 2. Florida -- SEC Champions 3. USC -- Pac 10 Champions 4. Louisville -- Big East Champions 5. Oklahoma -- Big 12 Champions 6. Wake Forest -- ACC Champions 7. Michigan 8. LSU 9. Wisconsin 10. Boise State 11. Auburn 12. Notre Dame 5. Oklahoma vs 12. Notre Dame vs Louisville 7. Michigan vs 11. Auburn vs USC 6. Wake Forest vs 10. Boise State vs Florida 8. LSU vs 9. Wisconsin vs Ohio State 2007 1. Ohio State -- Big Ten Champions 2. LSU -- SEC Champions 3. Virginia Tech -- ACC Champions 4. Oklahoma -- Big 12 Champions 5. USC -- Pac 10 Champions 6. West Virginia -- Big East Champions 7. Georgia 8. Missouri 9. Kansas 10. Hawaii 11. Arizona State 12. Florida 5. USC vs 12. Florida vs Oklahoma 6. West Virginia vs 10. Hawaii vs Virginia Tech 8. Missouri vs 11. Arizona state vs LSU 7. Georgia vs 9. Kansas vs Ohio State 2008 1. Oklahoma -- Big 12 Champions 2. Florida -- SEC Champions 3. USC -- Pac 10 Champions 4. Penn State -- Big Ten Champions 5. Cincinnati -- Big East Champions 6. Virginia Tech -- ACC Champions 7. Texas 8. Alabama 9. Utah 10. Texas Tech 11. Boise State 12. Ohio State 5. Cincinnati vs 11. Boise State vs Penn State 6. Virginia Tech vs 12. Ohio State vs USC 7. Texas vs 9. Utah vs Florida 8. Alabama vs 10. Texas Tech vs Oklahoma 2009 1. Alabama -- sEC Champions 2. Texas -- Big 12 Champions 3. Cincinnati -- Big East Champions 4. Oregon -- Pac 10 Champions 5. Ohio State -- Big Ten Champions 6. Georgia Tech -- ACC Champions 7. TCU 8. Florida 9. Boise State 10. Iowa 11. Virginia Tech 12. LSU 5. Ohio State vs 12. LSU vs Oregon 6. Georgia Tech vs 10. Iowa vs Cincinnati 8. Florida vs 11. Virginia Tech vs Texas 7. TCU vs 9. Boise State vs Alabama Edited October 15, 2010 by GWPFFL BrianW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildcat2334 Posted October 16, 2010 Share Posted October 16, 2010 stop it. I can't take the tease - I can't even fathom how effing cool a playoff would be Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockerbraves Posted October 16, 2010 Share Posted October 16, 2010 As some of you know, I've been a proponent of a 12 team playoff. I've tweaked it a bit over the years but it has relatively stayed the same. * Top 4 BCS Conference Champions get 1st round byes based on the BCS Standings * No limit on how many teams a conference can get * Would try to avoid match ups between conference rivals within the first 2 rounds. Sometimes it is impossible to avoid * Your top 6 would feature the aforementioned Top 4, plus the final 2 BCS Conference Champions would receive automatic bids and be seeds 5 and 6 I would also be open to simply re-seed after the 1st round as well, but here is how the BCS-era would've shaped out, based on the final BCS Standings of each season. Try and tell me you folks wouldn't have been loving some of those match ups and potential match ups. If I made any mistakes, then by all means point them out, but I for one would love this. It gives enough regular season incentive to all involved, and the poor little trash mid majors like Boise would have their "one shining moment" as well. 1998 1. Tennessee -- SEC Champions 2. Florida State -- ACC Champions 3. UCLA -- Pac 10 Champions 4. Texas A & M -- Big 12 Champions 5. Wisconsin -- Big Ten Champions 6. Syracuse -- Big East Champions 7. Kansas State 8. Ohio State 9. Arizona 10. Florida 11. Tulane 12. Nebraska 5. Wisconsin vs 11. Tulane Winner vs Texas A & M 6. Syracuse vs 12. Nebraska Winner vs UCLA 7. Kansas State vs 10. Florida Winner vs Florida State 8. Ohio State vs 9. Arizona Winner vs Tennessee 1999 1. Florida State -- ACC Champions 2. Virginia Tech -- Big East Champions 3. Nebraska -- Big 12 Champions 4. Alabama -- SEC Champions 5. Wisconsin -- Big Ten Champions 6. Stanford -- Pac 10 Champions 7. Tennessee 8. Kansas State 9. Michigan 10. Michigan State 11. Florida 12. Penn State 5. Wisconsin vs 11. Florida vs Alabama 6. Stanford vs 12. Penn State vs Nebraska 7. Tennessee vs 10. Michigan State vs Virginia Tech 8. Kansas State vs 9. Michigan vs Florida State 2000 1. Oklahoma -- Big 12 Champions 2. Florida State -- ACC Champions 3. Miami -- Big East Champions 4. Washington -- Pac 10 Champions 5. Florida -- SEC Champions 6. Purdue -- Big Ten Champions 7. Oregon State 8. Virginia tech 9. Nebraska 10. Kansas State 11. Oregon 12. Notre Dame 5. Florida vs 12. Notre Dame vs Washington 6. Purdue vs 11. Oregon vs Miami 7. Oregon State vs 10. Kansas State vs Florida State 8. Virginia Tech vs 9. Nebraska vs Oklahoma 2001 1. Miami -- Big East Champions 2. Oregon -- Pac 10 Champions 3. Colorado -- Big 12 Champions 4. Illinois -- Big Ten Champions 5. Maryland -- ACC Champions 6. LSU -- SEC Champions 7. Nebraska 8. Florida 9. Tennessee 10. Texas 11. Stanford 12. Oklahoma 5. Maryland vs 12. Oklahoma vs Illinois 6. LSU vs 11. Stanford vs Colorado 7. Nebraska vs 9. Tennessee vs Oregon 8. Florida vs 10. Texas vs Miami 2002 1. Miami -- Big East Champions 2. Ohio State -- Big Ten Champions 3. Georgia -- SEC Champions 4. Washington State -- Pac 10 Champions 5. Oklahoma -- Big 12 Champions 6. Florida State -- ACC Champions 7. USC 8. Iowa 9. Kansas State 10. Notre Dame 11. Texas 12. Michigan 5. Oklahoma vs 12. Michigan vs Washington State 6. Florida State vs 11. Texas vs Georgia 7. USC vs 10. Notre Dame vs Ohio State 8. Iowa vs 9. Kansas State vs Miami 2003 1. LSU -- SEC Champions 2. USC -- Pac 10 Champions 3. Michigan -- Big Ten Champions 4. Florida State -- ACC Champions 5. Miami -- Big East Champions 6. Kansas State -- Big 12 Champions 7. Oklahoma 8. Ohio State 9. Texas 10. Tennessee 11. Miami (OH) 12. Georgia 5. Miami vs 12. Georgia vs Florida State 6. Kansas State vs 11. Miami (OH) vs Michigan 7. Oklahoma vs 10. Tennessee vs USC 8. Ohio State vs 9. Texas vs LSU 2004 1. USC -- Pac 10 Champions 2. Oklahoma -- Big 12 Champions 3. Auburn -- SEC Champions 4. Virginia Tech -- ACC Champions 5. Michigan -- Big Ten Champions 6. Pittsburgh -- Big East Champions 7. Texas 8. California 9. Utah 10. Georgia 11. Boise State 12. Louisville 5. Michigan vs 12. Louisville vs Virginia Tech 6. Pittsburgh vs 11. Boise State vs Auburn 8. California vs 10. Georgia vs Oklahoma 7. Texas vs 9. Utah vs USC 2005 1. USC -- Pac 10 Champions 2. Texas -- Big 12 Champions 3. Penn State -- Big Ten Champions 4. Georgia -- SEC Champions 5. West Virginia -- Big East Champions 6. Florida State -- ACC Champions 7. Ohio State 8. Oregon 9. Notre Dame 10. Miami 11. Virginia Tech 12. LSU 5. West Virginia vs 11. Virginia Tech vs Georgia 6. Florida State vs 12. LSU vs Penn State 8. Oregon vs Miami vs Texas 7. Ohio State vs 9. Notre Dame vs USC 2006 1. Ohio State -- Big Ten Champions 2. Florida -- SEC Champions 3. USC -- Pac 10 Champions 4. Louisville -- Big East Champions 5. Oklahoma -- Big 12 Champions 6. Wake Forest -- ACC Champions 7. Michigan 8. LSU 9. Wisconsin 10. Boise State 11. Auburn 12. Notre Dame 5. Oklahoma vs 12. Notre Dame vs Louisville 7. Michigan vs 11. Auburn vs USC 6. Wake Forest vs 10. Boise State vs Florida 8. LSU vs 9. Wisconsin vs Ohio State 2007 1. Ohio State -- Big Ten Champions 2. LSU -- SEC Champions 3. Virginia Tech -- ACC Champions 4. Oklahoma -- Big 12 Champions 5. USC -- Pac 10 Champions 6. West Virginia -- Big East Champions 7. Georgia 8. Missouri 9. Kansas 10. Hawaii 11. Arizona State 12. Florida 5. USC vs 12. Florida vs Oklahoma 6. West Virginia vs 10. Hawaii vs Virginia Tech 8. Missouri vs 11. Arizona state vs LSU 7. Georgia vs 9. Kansas vs Ohio State 2008 1. Oklahoma -- Big 12 Champions 2. Florida -- SEC Champions 3. USC -- Pac 10 Champions 4. Penn State -- Big Ten Champions 5. Cincinnati -- Big East Champions 6. Virginia Tech -- ACC Champions 7. Texas 8. Alabama 9. Utah 10. Texas Tech 11. Boise State 12. Ohio State 5. Cincinnati vs 11. Boise State vs Penn State 6. Virginia Tech vs 12. Ohio State vs USC 7. Texas vs 9. Utah vs Florida 8. Alabama vs 10. Texas Tech vs Oklahoma 2009 1. Alabama -- sEC Champions 2. Texas -- Big 12 Champions 3. Cincinnati -- Big East Champions 4. Oregon -- Pac 10 Champions 5. Ohio State -- Big Ten Champions 6. Georgia Tech -- ACC Champions 7. TCU 8. Florida 9. Boise State 10. Iowa 11. Virginia Tech 12. LSU 5. Ohio State vs 12. LSU vs Oregon 6. Georgia Tech vs 10. Iowa vs Cincinnati 8. Florida vs 11. Virginia Tech vs Texas 7. TCU vs 9. Boise State vs Alabama Brian, good stuff. Worthy of it's own thread. Copy and paste it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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