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Zombie apocalypse falls under a broader genre known as post apocalyptic/apocalypic/Dystopian society fiction which has a very large appeal. What makes it so appealing is that it gives us, the viewers or readers, the willies for several reasons.

 

Zombies are the ultimate trinity of horror. They remind us that we are mortal and we think about our own ends and what happens to us afterward (or what wont happen to us), they touch on the taboo of cannibalism or the fear of being eaten alive (a primal fear), and they show us that with all of our intelligence and ingenuity we are powerless against them and cannot reason with them.

 

Zombie fiction also brings to light one of our overall fears we have in modern times and that is the collapse of the civilized world. At any given time the stability of our society is only 9 meals away from a complete breakdown. Most people will not work towards a unifying goal of supporting the greater good of humanity but instead look to protect their own.

 

However, Zombie fiction has a way of getting people to actively join in the fiction. My zombie survival gear:

 

4-wheeler in the back of a pickup truck (both easily found around here between Raleigh and Durham)

Flares (Find any cop car that has been flipped over by the Zombies)

Two 16-gauge shotguns (taken from the cop cars)

Two .44s (easily found around here between Raleigh and Durham)

Two 9mms (taken off the cops)

M-16 A2 with M203 grenade launcher (any dead national guard)

Bear Archery Assault Compound Bow with a diaper dirt load of 3 blade broadheads

3 Jewish midgets

Ham radio

 

I'm ready to go. Bring on the Zombies!

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I say a very well done season ender.

 

 

 

WARNING - SPOILERS BE HERE - ARRRGGGG:

 

 

I really want to know what the doctor whispered in to Rick's ear. His face seemed to drop big time after hearing it.

 

The almost rape scene was very intense and well done. The acting is amazing. I noticed I had that adrenalin feeling coursing through my body by the end of the scene and I was in a pissy mood for him trying that crap.

 

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I say a very well done season ender.

 

 

 

WARNING - SPOILERS BE HERE - ARRRGGGG:

 

 

I really want to know what the doctor whispered in to Rick's ear. His face seemed to drop big time after hearing it.

 

The almost rape scene was very intense and well done. The acting is amazing. I noticed I had that adrenalin feeling coursing through my body by the end of the scene and I was in a pissy mood for him trying that crap.

 

I hate that they probably won't bring it back until next October. But they did the same thing with "Breaking Bad," when they ran seven episodes beginning in January '08 and didn't bring the show back until March '09. I just wish DirecTV would air AMC in HD already.

 

 

It annoys me when characters whisper to hide important things from the audience. I wonder, though, whether the doctor recognized Rick as "the leader" and told him that one of the group members was actually infected in some way that wasn't immediately serious, if that makes sense. (Maybe Andrea? She seemed to have something weird going on.) There had to be a secondary reason for those blood tests.

 

So where do they go next? The military base?

 

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I hate that they probably won't bring it back until next October. But they did the same thing with "Breaking Bad," when they ran seven episodes beginning in January '08 and didn't bring the show back until March '09. I just wish DirecTV would air AMC in HD already.

 

 

It annoys me when characters whisper to hide important things from the audience. I wonder, though, whether the doctor recognized Rick as "the leader" and told him that one of the group members was actually infected in some way that wasn't immediately serious, if that makes sense. (Maybe Andrea? She seemed to have something weird going on.) There had to be a secondary reason for those blood tests.

 

So where do they go next? The military base?

 

 

 

The whispers seem obvious to me. Rick's wife, Sara Tancredi, got knocked up by a zombie.

 

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The whispers seem obvious to me. Rick's wife, Sara Tancredi, got knocked up by a zombie.

 

 

 

Oh great point - Maybe she is pregnant by Shane when he hit that sh*t in the wood in Episode II: Guts. Now that will bring a new level of drama to the show. Shane is a trick and really getting on my nerves. For a while I thought he might have been the son of Fred Ward http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0911542/. He looks so much like him.

 

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Oh great point - Maybe she is pregnant by Shane when he hit that sh*t in the wood in Episode II: Guts. Now that will bring a new level of drama to the show. Shane is a trick and really getting on my nerves. For a while I thought he might have been the son of Fred Ward http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0911542/. He looks so much like him.

 

 

:keanu: woooah :keanu:

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The whispers seem obvious to me. Rick's wife, Sara Tancredi, got knocked up by a zombie.

 

 

 

Oh great point - Maybe she is pregnant by Shane when he hit that sh*t in the wood in Episode II: Guts. Now that will bring a new level of drama to the show. Shane is a trick and really getting on my nerves. For a while I thought he might have been the son of Fred Ward http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0911542/. He looks so much like him.

 

 

Seriously, the

pregnancy

thing is so obvious I feel dumb not considering that before.

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Seriously, the

pregnancy

thing is so obvious I feel dumb not considering that before.

 

It was a real :wacko: moment when he suggested it.

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So why don't the zombies eat each other? Do they address that? Is there some zombie code?
:wacko: seriously? this is your logical problem with the verisimilitude of zombie movies? :tup:

 

OK, so here's my little detlef logic puzzle. occurred to me last night as I was watching episode 2. the zombie "disease" propagates by infecting living people mostly via bites from zombies, correct? but every time the zombies are able to actually bite something living, that thing ends up completely devoured and thus unable to become a new zombie. the only way the zombies can actually propagate and make new zombies is by getting a bite in, but being thwarted before they really start grubbin. seems like that would rarely happen.

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OK, so here's my little detlef logic puzzle. occurred to me last night as I was watching episode 2. the zombie "disease" propagates by infecting living people mostly via bites from zombies, correct? but every time the zombies are able to actually bite something living, that thing ends up completely devoured and thus unable to become a new zombie. the only way the zombies can actually propagate and make new zombies is by getting a bite in, but being thwarted before they really start grubbin. seems like that would rarely happen.

 

And a few more things.

 

Do zombies have to eat? What can they eat? How much do they need? If they are 100% carnivores, it seems to me that they'll run out of food pretty quickly, particularly in the city.

 

We've seem them eat animals, and they might get by on house pets, domesticated animals and zoo animals for awhile. But I'm Usain Bolt compared to them and there ain't no way that I'm going to catch a wild animal with my bare hands.

 

:wacko:

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I'm surprised that the issue has not been raised about how long zombies can go without eating.

 

And to Az's question, I'm going to guess that there was an initial infectious event of some nature other than bites, which caused the bulk of the population to get infected, and that bites are only a secondary means of transmission.

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And a few more things.

 

Do zombies have to eat? What can they eat? How much do they need? If they are 100% carnivores, it seems to me that they'll run out of food pretty quickly, particularly in the city.

 

We've seem them eat animals, and they might get by on house pets, domesticated animals and zoo animals for awhile. But I'm Usain Bolt compared to them and there ain't no way that I'm going to catch a wild animal with my bare hands.

 

:tup:

 

You're following that "let the zombies just starve to death" thinking that 28 days put forth. I'm thinking that despite what or when they eat, that the decaying process (which we see is not stopped by becoming a zombie) will render most if not all of the zombies immobile within about a month. :tup:

 

Apparently there is more to it that that, though... :wacko:

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You're following that "let the zombies just starve to death" thinking that 28 days put forth. I'm thinking that despite what or when they eat, that the decaying process (which we see is not stopped by becoming a zombie) will render most if not all of the zombies immobile within about a month. :tup:

 

Apparently there is more to it that that, though... :wacko:

 

 

 

That was what made 28 Days so effective, was that it was grounded in semi-logic. It only took a bite or a drop of moisture to start the 'zombiefication' process that ran it's course within a few minutes, which resulted in the spread that much faster - so you could be swarmed and taken into the pack before you were dead. Although it wasn't an 'undead' situation as cliaz will fly in and point out...

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overall, I have to say the season as a whole was pretty so-so. the way they drop you into the first episode was awesome, but it was not as great after that. I'll be watching when it comes back though.

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OK, so here's my little detlef logic puzzle. occurred to me last night as I was watching episode 2. the zombie "disease" propagates by infecting living people mostly via bites from zombies, correct? but every time the zombies are able to actually bite something living, that thing ends up completely devoured and thus unable to become a new zombie. the only way the zombies can actually propagate and make new zombies is by getting a bite in, but being thwarted before they really start grubbin. seems like that would rarely happen.

 

It's a matter of numbers. Basically, a bit or scratch from the zombies will infect you with the virus (to a lesser degree blood splatters that land in your eyes, mouth or an open wound should infect you as well but I haven't seen that yet in this series). These zombies do not need to 'breed' as this is an unnatural occurrence in the world. Sheer numbers handle it.

 

If you have ever read World War Z, Brooks does an excellent job of explaining everything in a very realistic way. In the book there is one particular battle in which tens of thousands of Zombies and the US military meet in Yonkers for a battle that ends up being the Epiphany moment for humanity when the zombies over run all of the US military's defenses and offensive power. Most of our modern tactics predicate on an emotional response from the enemy or sheer wounds or casualties. Because Zombies feel no pain, can't really think and cannot be affected by nerve gas, tear gas, ect, they quickly overrun the lines and thousands of US troops become infected.

 

You can be infected for days and spread the virus through the same mechanics and people wouldn't know until they start having the fever.

 

SPOILER ALERT FOR WORLD WAR Z BOOK:

 

The one thing I loved about World War Z was how the Russians handled the situation. When one of their cities/borders were threaten but a boat load of refugees that were being chased by zombies (I'm talking thousands of people running from thousands of zombies) they wanted to make sure no living person made it through who might have been infected. They ended up gassing all of the living people with nerve agents. Anyone who stood up afterward was shot in the head.

 

 

And a few more things.

 

Do zombies have to eat? What can they eat? How much do they need? If they are 100% carnivores, it seems to me that they'll run out of food pretty quickly, particularly in the city.

 

We've seem them eat animals, and they might get by on house pets, domesticated animals and zoo animals for awhile. But I'm Usain Bolt compared to them and there ain't no way that I'm going to catch a wild animal with my bare hands.

 

:wacko:

 

When a corpse is reanimated by the virus, it turns on areas in the brain stem associated with basic primal needs. For some reason, the urge to eat is the strongest. There is no written reason as to why they go after living flesh that I can find through all of my books and shows/movies I've watched.

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I really want to know what the doctor whispered in to Rick's ear

I bet no one knows, not even the writers. *insert dramatic scene* (we'll figure it out later)

 

(Maybe Andrea?

 

 

I didn't understand why they let her get her sister's blood all over her.

 

As for her acting funny, a few days of not eating followed by a couple glasses of wine will do that to a person, plus her sister just died, so there's that.

 

If Andrea is infected and the doctor knew, it wasn't what he told Rick cuz when she was running out of the building, there was no sign on his face of concern that she, specifically, survived. As I suggested, I bet it hasn't been even discussed yet among the writers.

 

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So I just started watching this and I have a question. How does shooting someone in the head slow them down if they are already dead? Some of the zombies pull themselves along by their hands, with their entire lower torso missing and their entrails dragging along behind them. That strikes me as a very motivated individual. Yet a bullet to the skull knocks them right out.

 

Good show btw. I'm on episode 2 and they may have me hooked, and this is most definitely not my usual genre.

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So I just started watching this and I have a question. How does shooting someone in the head slow them down if they are already dead? Some of the zombies pull themselves along by their hands, with their entire lower torso missing and their entrails dragging along behind them. That strikes me as a very motivated individual. Yet a bullet to the skull knocks them right out.

 

Good show btw. I'm on episode 2 and they may have me hooked, and this is most definitely not my usual genre.

Gotta assume the brain is still the motor mechanism commanding the nervous system, so knock out the motor, knock out the whole thing.

 

Oh, yeah............and what a load of f'n rubbish.

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watched the first episode last night, and I have to say that was pretty damn good TV.

 

+1 just started watching it on netflix very 28 days later-ish, but good so far

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+1 just started watching it on netflix very 28 days later-ish, but good so far

It's a good show - you just have to be able to enjoy that fact the show is more centered on post-event survival than zombie-related action.

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It's a good show - you just have to be able to enjoy that fact the show is more centered on post-event survival than zombie-related action.

yup

 

has anyone seen "Jericho" from a few year back that stared the kids from 90210 or similar show and the other kid from the Crosby Show? I like the two years and had hoped for more.

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I recently watched it on Blu-ray as someone left it at my house for a few months and I never got around to watching....pretty good show overall as I accept it for what it is and I'm not part of the zombie cult...it was still enjoyable...

 

I hope season 2 rolls around October and that there will be more episodes than 6 this time....same thing happened with the Spartacus: Gods of the Arena pre-quel...6 episodes ::wacko:....great season, but 6 episodes...really?

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