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Judge Rules Health Care Law Is Unconstitutional


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Meh. This will be resolved by the Supreme Court. No point in getting worked up about it until then. There is enough authority either way to justify whatever outcome the Court wants.

Unless Obama can get one of the five conservatives replaced, they will hand him his ass on a platter, collapsing the centerpiece of his administration and taking their retribution for calling them out in 2010.

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Unless Obama can get one of the five conservatives replaced, they will hand him his ass on a platter, collapsing the centerpiece of his administration and taking their retribution for calling them out in 2010.

 

Ahhh...sweet...sweet...revenge.

 

Reminds me of an old Klingon proverb: "Revenge is a dish...best served cold".

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Ahhh...sweet...sweet...revenge.

 

Reminds me of an old Klingon proverb: "Revenge is a dish...best served cold".

 

Them Klingons stole that line....from.... Pierre Ambroise Francois Choderios de LaClos who wrote that in 1782. Let's give credit where credit is due. :wacko:

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Yeah, I got if from here.

 

How is it not commerce?

 

"It would be a radical departure from existing case law to hold that Congress can regulate inactivity under the Commerce Clause," he said. If that were true, he said, "it is not hyperbolizing to suggest that Congress could do almost anything it wanted." If Congress could reach so broadly, "we would have a Constitution in name only," he said.

 

Judge Vinson rejected the Obama administration's argument that no one truly opts out of the health care system, because everyone eventually needs medical attention. In that sense, the judge said, health care is no different than many human activities.

 

"There is quite literally no decision that, in the natural course of events, does not have an economic impact of some sort. The decisions of whether and when (or not) to buy a house, a car, a television, a dinner, or even a morning cup of coffee also have a financial impact that --- when aggregated with similar economic decisions --- affect the price of that particular product or service

and have a substantial effect on interstate commerce. To be sure, it is not difficult to identify an economic decision that has a cumulatively substantial effect on interstate commerce; rather, the difficult task is to find a decision that does not," he said.

 

Straight from the horses' mouth.

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Them Klingons stole that line....from.... Pierre Ambroise Francois Choderios de LaClos who wrote that in 1782. Let's give credit where credit is due. :wacko:

 

 

Fixed.

 

Ahhh...sweet...sweet...revenge.

 

Reminds me of an old Klingon Pierre Ambroise Francois Choderios de LaClos proverb: "Revenge is a dish...best served cold".

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No. It is wrong whenever it is done.

 

I can give you one doozy of a an exsample, but that will quickly pollute this thread.

 

Hate to break the bad news to ya', but you simply being in this thread is polluting it. :wacko:

 

(I jest, I jest...I'm here until Thursday with shows at 5 and 7)

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Them Klingons stole that line....from.... Pierre Ambroise Francois Choderios de LaClos who wrote that in 1782. Let's give credit where credit is due. :wacko:

 

Didn't you do some type setting for him when you were a wee lad?

 

ETA :tup:

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"It would be a radical departure from existing case law to hold that Congress can regulate inactivity under the Commerce Clause," he said. If that were true, he said, "it is not hyperbolizing to suggest that Congress could do almost anything it wanted." If Congress could reach so broadly, "we would have a Constitution in name only," he said.

 

Judge Vinson rejected the Obama administration's argument that no one truly opts out of the health care system, because everyone eventually needs medical attention. In that sense, the judge said, health care is no different than many human activities.

 

"There is quite literally no decision that, in the natural course of events, does not have an economic impact of some sort. The decisions of whether and when (or not) to buy a house, a car, a television, a dinner, or even a morning cup of coffee also have a financial impact that --- when aggregated with similar economic decisions --- affect the price of that particular product or service

and have a substantial effect on interstate commerce. To be sure, it is not difficult to identify an economic decision that has a cumulatively substantial effect on interstate commerce; rather, the difficult task is to find a decision that does not," he said.

 

Straight from the horses' mouth.

 

So because everything is commerce, this cannot be?

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Yeah, I got if from here.

 

How is it not commerce?

The judge said that Congress DOES have the ability to regulate insurance. He just thought the individual mandate: (1) went too far; and (2) couldn't be meaningfully severed from the law without rending the law meaningless.

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Thank god for "activist" judges... Keep it up yankees and left coasters, the south may rise again!!!!! An we'll take 4 of the top 11 economies in the US with us... See you guys try and live without FedEX, UPS, Home Depot, Collard Greens, Peanuts, Citrus Fruits, Cotton, Pine Lumber, Cat Litter, and Gulf Seafood for a while. That, and we'll ship all the Messicans to your neighborhoods, what ya think of that, bunch of commie toad lickers...

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The judge said that Congress DOES have the ability to regulate insurance. He just thought the individual mandate: (1) went too far; and (2) couldn't be meaningfully severed from the law without rending the law meaningless.

 

Then maybe it is time to negotiate this. :wacko: Won't happen very soon-or so it appears!

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Me choosing not to buy something is not commerce. The Obamacare law is trying to say that it is.

Another way to look at it is that people are consuming services without paying for them. That conduct affects commerce, which means Congress can regulate that conduct.

 

See? We can do this all day.

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