bpwallace49 Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 I'm just as tired as the next WI guy of this nonsense. That's all. It's an invalid attempt at regaining power as far as I'm concerned. The recall is not designed to be used as a tool to overturn the will of the voter, but as a tool to root out corruption and other crimes that a politician would do. Not simply because you don't like how a politician voted. Ummm. Weren't you all about the recalls when it involved recalling democrats? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaterMan Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 Walker should let the people vote on this issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tosberg34 Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 Ummm. Weren't you all about the recalls when it involved recalling democrats? I don't think so. I'd have to go back and look but I don't believe I was for it in the first place. Simply getting recalled because one group of people decided they don't like your vote, to me, is ridiculous. I don't believe that's what the "recall" was intended for. That's what elections are for. IMO, Democrats are abusing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpwallace49 Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 I believe WI senators are eligible for recall 6 months or 1 year after they are elected. So, in short, you have a small windows where you can't be recalled but otherwise anyone can be recalled at anytime. How about we recall the 14 senators who fled? That is where the recall efforts should have been directed (although, some of them still may be in that "window" I talked about yet). You like it to recall dems. You don't like it to recall repubs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tosberg34 Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 You like it to recall dems. You don't like it to recall repubs. You're clearly quoting it out of context. That was nothing more than a reaction to the outrageous abuse of the recalls used by the left in WI. Overall, I am against the recall to be used for nothing other than crimes and corruption. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushwacked Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 Based on the few times you guys reply to the even dumberer cheeze head, it's apparent I'm not missing any nuggets of wisdom. 58% Wisconsin Republican Gov. Scott Walker is losing the support of Wisconsin adults, a Wisconsin Public Radio/St. Norbert College survey suggests. The poll, released on Tuesday, reveals 58 percent of respondents want Walker recalled from office. Surprisingly, the poll showed that support for the recall is growing among Republican voters in Wisconsin, as the Chicago Tribune reports that only 7 percent of Wisconsin Republicans favored recalling Walker in the spring; a number that has increased to 24 percent in November. The results show that opposition to Walker’s decision to enact controversial legislation that devalued collective bargaining rights and benefits for public workers is growing among Wisconsinites on both sides of the political spectrum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaterMan Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 Maybe some of these Republicans are also teachers. Walker: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tosberg34 Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 (edited) Based on the few times you guys reply to the even dumberer cheeze head, it's apparent I'm not missing any nuggets of wisdom. 58% You're calling me dumb but you're quoting a St.Norbert poll? You clearly don't know what you're talking about - jumping on everything and anything no matter how farcical to support your position. St.Norbert polls are horrendously and notoriously inaccurate. What a reach! And still with the name calling. How personal you want to make this? Edited November 20, 2011 by tosberg34 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbpfan1231 Posted November 25, 2011 Share Posted November 25, 2011 http://www.jsonline.com/news/milwaukee/mil...-134476718.html Exactly why this crap needs to get fixed. Why would people defend this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaterMan Posted November 25, 2011 Share Posted November 25, 2011 Ald. Robert Puente, paid $73,222, plus a $67,253 pension as a retired police captain, for a total of $140,475. It's time to lay down the new law on these cops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushwacked Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 Wisconsin number 1 in job losses Under Walker, Wisconsin now leads the nation in job losses. In fact, of the states that the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics described as experiencing “statistically significant unemployment changes” in October, only one actually lost jobs: Wisconsin. Wisconsin lost 9,700 jobs in October, almost all of them in the private sector. But that is not the worst news. The worst news is that the job losses are part of a pattern that began around the time that Walker’s “reforms” took hold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpwallace49 Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 Considering that Walker was elected on a pledge of 250,000 jobs to be created, this will only give more traction to the recall effort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yukon Cornelius Posted November 28, 2011 Author Share Posted November 28, 2011 i lay all the ills of Wisconsin on the teacher union ... oh wait that one has been used already Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbpfan1231 Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 Considering that Walker was elected on a pledge of 250,000 jobs to be created, this will only give more traction to the recall effort. You are absolutely right. If Walker does not bring in jobs he deserves to get booted out..... During a normal election term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yukon Cornelius Posted January 17, 2012 Author Share Posted January 17, 2012 You are absolutely right. If Walker does not bring in jobs he deserves to get booted out..... During a normal election term. Democrats file 1 million signatures for Walker recall SHhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh Walker he doesn't know yet, he is in NY city raising money for the recall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tosberg34 Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 Democrats file 1 million signatures for Walker recallSHhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh Walker he doesn't know yet, he is in NY city raising money for the recall. Impressive, but hardly translates into enough votes. Walker wins handily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yukon Cornelius Posted January 17, 2012 Author Share Posted January 17, 2012 "Walker was in New York on Tuesday, attending a fundraiser. Ciara Matthews, his campaign spokeswoman, said he was "completely booked for the day" and unavailable for comment. But the governor did make time to speak to conservative radio hosts Charlie Sykes and Rush Limbaugh. During the Limbaugh interview, Walker warned of recall "shenanigans" and said recall organizers have gotten "tons of money from the big government unions in Washington." " Yep - he has time for Rush Limbaugh but no time for the people of Wisconsin. That is the crux of the whole problem isn't it? Walker's so busy carrying out the agenda of the Kochs and corporate sponsors, he has completely forgotten about the state he is supposed to govern. And that's exactly why over a million signatures to recall him were delivered today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tosberg34 Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 "Walker was in New York on Tuesday, attending a fundraiser. Ciara Matthews, his campaign spokeswoman, said he was "completely booked for the day" and unavailable for comment. But the governor did make time to speak to conservative radio hosts Charlie Sykes and Rush Limbaugh. During the Limbaugh interview, Walker warned of recall "shenanigans" and said recall organizers have gotten "tons of money from the big government unions in Washington." "Yep - he has time for Rush Limbaugh but no time for the people of Wisconsin. That is the crux of the whole problem isn't it? Walker's so busy carrying out the agenda of the Kochs and corporate sponsors, he has completely forgotten about the state he is supposed to govern. And that's exactly why over a million signatures to recall him were delivered today. More whining. When will it ever end? Once Walker wins again will you stop? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushwacked Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 "Walker was in New York on Tuesday, attending a fundraiser. Ciara Matthews, his campaign spokeswoman, said he was "completely booked for the day" and unavailable for comment. But the governor did make time to speak to conservative radio hosts Charlie Sykes and Rush Limbaugh. During the Limbaugh interview, Walker warned of recall "shenanigans" and said recall organizers have gotten "tons of money from the big government unions in Washington." "Yep - he has time for Rush Limbaugh but no time for the people of Wisconsin. That is the crux of the whole problem isn't it? Walker's so busy carrying out the agenda of the Kochs and corporate sponsors, he has completely forgotten about the state he is supposed to govern. And that's exactly why over a million signatures to recall him were delivered today. In New York instead with a drug addicted radio propagandist shock jock instead of home where 3K pounds of recall sigs are being delivered? A profile in courage! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpwallace49 Posted January 18, 2012 Share Posted January 18, 2012 The part about the recall that is very silly to me is that complete lack of a credible opponent to run against Walker. If only walker tried to mend some bridges instead of digging in his heels this whole silly fiasco might have been averted. What a maroon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushwacked Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tosberg34 Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 I don't go for the sticky sweet power ballads. I'm more of a straight-up type guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbpfan1231 Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 https://law.marquette.edu/poll/ Liberals = People in real world = Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tosberg34 Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 (edited) https://law.marquette.edu/poll/ Liberals = People in real world = Yep. JSOnline has a good editorial today. What Walker has done is amazing and has turned this state around and now has it headed in the right direction - regardless of whether your feelings were hurt or not. So wipe away those tears my liberal friends, things are much brighter for WI - the world has not ended, you still have your job and your taxes went down (for those that used Walker's tools). Your predictions of doom and gloom have not panned out so it's time to move on like the rest of us have. "We are turning things around. We are heading in the right direction." That was Gov. Scott Walker's basic message in his "state of the state" speech Wednesday night. And there is no question that Walker and his fellow Republicans who control the Legislature have turned things around - they have turned things around dramatically. Whether it's the right direction in some areas remains to be seen. Walker can lay claim to some significant achievements, but the elephant in the Assembly chamber Wednesday was the polarizing effect his policies have had on Wisconsin politics. Walker's foes, led by public employee unions, say they have collected 1 million signatures in a recall drive; there is little doubt that the governor will face a recall election this summer, only the third gubernatorial recall in U.S. history. The governor's budget filled a $3.6 billion budget gap without significant state tax increases. He did that without putting an extraordinary burden on local governments and property taxes and without mass layoffs of state employees. The governor was right to point out that the overall school tax levy has gone down for the first time in six years. The governor also noted that when he took his oath of office last year, the unemployment rate was 7.5%, and now it is 7.1%, the lowest since the crash in 2008. That's true, as is the fact that the state added 13,500 private-sector jobs last year. But he can't take too much pride in the trend of the past six months, every one of which has seen job losses in Wisconsin while jobs nationally have grown. A governor's ability to put a charge into a state's economy is limited. But it was Walker who famously pledged to add 250,000 jobs by the end of his term. We hold him to that. There's no question that Walker's policies have the support of businessmen and women across the state, and that businesses see Wisconsin in a better light than they have in years. That's positive for long-term growth. And a recent poll showed that a majority of Wisconsinites support the governor and his policies, and show him beating each of the declared and non-declared candidates being talked about on the Democratic side. Even so, part of Walker's legacy will always be the bitter political struggle now going on between Democrats and Republicans in the state. The way he went about pushing his budget through and gutting public employee unions left a bitter taste that will linger a long, long time, as evidenced by the rude catcalls from the gallery that punctuated the governor's speech Wednesday night. Though we supported efforts to bring the state's labor costs under control as one aspect of balancing the budget, we've thought from the beginning that Walker didn't have to break the unions in the process. That said, the state's budget deficit was arguably the governor's biggest challenge coming into office, and he met the challenge. Now, he says he will create a task force to follow through on recommendations of a governor's commission to reduce waste and fraud in government. That's a good thing. So is removing antiquated and unnecessary regulations that hamper business growth in Wisconsin, as the governor wants to do with the Small Business Regulatory Review Board. That's not a conservative or a liberal issue: A similar theme was sounded by President Barack Obama in his State of the Union speech Tuesday night. But as with Obama, the details matter. Also good is the Read to Lead education initiative that he and state Superintendent Tony Evers are pushing. Improving reading among the state's students is fundamental for their benefit and for the state's economy. Walker spent much of his speech touting his accomplishments and staying on message. And he made a nod to teachers and public employees, toasting their value to the state and urging everyone to avoid personalizing differences. But he could have extended more of an olive branch and expressed his willingness to work with Democrats to reduce the tension. He could have spelled out in detail how he plans to do that and asserted a desire to be a governor for all the people, even those who disagree with him. A speech like that could make a difference. Maybe that will have to wait - as many things in Wisconsin will have to wait - until after the recall season is over. Edited January 26, 2012 by tosberg34 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbpfan1231 Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 How dare you save money!!! RECALL!!!!!! http://www.jsonline.com/news/statepolitics/new-policies-saved-taxpayers-1-billion-walker-says-9354895-148535795.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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