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Are up... and early preseason adjustments have already been made. We'll be making tweaks here and there over the course of the next couple of weeks. Comments and questions are certainly welcomed.

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Will you be writing up player profiles like they have for the offensive players?

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Will you be writing up player profiles like they have for the offensive players?

We will not be doing that, unfortunately. However, if you have questions on specific players, feel free to ask here and I'm sure keg and I will have plenty of info to share... plus the other keen folks that post here regularly.

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That would probably be cool if I could even find it :wacko:

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Is there a place that gives the story behind player upgrades or downgrades?

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Is there a place that gives the story behind player upgrades or downgrades?

I'll start and pin a thread.

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Topic for discussion: Jason Pierre-Paul.

 

Darin, you and I discussed this yesterday. How is he not even on the top 50? Maybe it's a NY thing, as he is getting a lot of ink and we're reading quotes from his teammates, but all gush over his ability. Not just as a pass rusher, but against the run. Last night he was a monster...check the link below. I have also pulled out highlights:

 

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football..._osi_umeny.html

 

CHARLOTTE - If Osi Umenyiora was still wondering why the Giants haven't been in a rush to cave in to his contract demands, he may have gotten an answer Saturday night.

 

It was only the preseason opener, but for the first few minutes it was the Jason Pierre-Paul show for the Giants, as the second-year defensive end gave a taste of what might be coming. He had two sacks in the Giants' otherwise unimpressive 20-10 loss to the Carolina Panthers, nearly had a third and forced a bad throw that turned into a 56-yard interception return for a touchdown by linebacker Michael Boley.

 

He was way too much for Jordan Gross, the Panthers' nine-year veteran left tackle, to handle. And he looked comfortable starting in Umenyiora's spot at right defensive end.

 

"I thought I played pretty good," Pierre-Paul said. "I knew what I was supposed to do and I was just out there executing. I came out, and I wasn't nervous. I knew the play calls, and I caught on very well. I just felt good. It felt very good."

 

The 22-year-old defensive end looked very good, too. He was the brightest spot for the Giants in a mostly dreary debut for a team that general manager Jerry Reese guaranteed is bound for the playoffs. It was as sloppy and disjointed as expected considering they've only had 11 practices over the last two weeks.

 

Playing behind a shaky new-look offensive line, Eli Manning was 4-for-9 for 36 yards, and while he wasn't sacked he was hit at least three times. In all, the offense, which Manning said was "never able to get into a great rhythm," gained just 131 first-half yards.

 

The defense was a little better, despite some shoddy tackling that allowed Panthers quarterback Jimmy Clausen to go 4-for-7 for 69 yards, including an 18-yard touchdown to tight end Greg Olsen. But the defense did have four sacks in the first half, including those two by Pierre-Paul.

 

Of course, this was against a Panthers team that went 2-14 last year and gave up 50 sacks. But it was still impossible not to notice how physically dominant Pierre-Paul was. His impact started on the third play of the game, when he just blew around the 6-4, 305-pound Gross and was inches away from Clausen.

 

Feeling the pressure from Pierre-Paul and an incoming Justin Tuck from the other side, Clausen threw a terrible pass .toward his running back that landed right in the hands of Boley, who took off for the end zone.

 

"He really threw it right to me," Boley said. "It was a great way to start the preseason for the defense by putting some points on the board."

 

On the next series, Pierre-Paul nearly got a sack on second down, but was dragged down by Gross and fell at Clausen's feet. One play later, he made Gross look like a traffic cone by cutting inside, then outside, and then sliding right by him into Clausen's face.

 

That was quite a performance for the first seven plays of the game for a player who believes his potential for sacks this season is "unlimited." Later in the first quarter, he added his second sack by blowing around Gross again and catching Clausen on the run from behind.

 

His timing couldn't have been better, either, with Umenyiora expected back at practice this week after being told by a specialist in Atlanta that he doesn't need surgery on his ailing right knee. Umenyiora could return Monday, but also may wait to see if he can extract a little more money from the Giants.

 

Pierre-Paul, though, is giving the team a good reason not to give in to those demands.

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Justin Tuck is a beast, Osi Umenyiora can be as well, and Kiwanuka, at least for now, is still designated as a DE.

 

JPP will get time as a pass rusher, but not enough time to merit being in the top-50.... yet.

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Justin Tuck is a beast, Osi Umenyiora can be as well, and Kiwanuka, at least for now, is still designated as a DE.

 

JPP will get time as a pass rusher, but not enough time to merit being in the top-50.... yet.

yet :wacko:

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Topic for discussion: Jason Pierre-Paul.

 

Darin, you and I discussed this yesterday. How is he not even on the top 50? Maybe it's a NY thing, as he is getting a lot of ink and we're reading quotes from his teammates, but all gush over his ability. Not just as a pass rusher, but against the run. Last night he was a monster...check the link below. I have also pulled out highlights:

 

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football..._osi_umeny.html

 

CHARLOTTE - If Osi Umenyiora was still wondering why the Giants haven't been in a rush to cave in to his contract demands, he may have gotten an answer Saturday night.

 

It was only the preseason opener, but for the first few minutes it was the Jason Pierre-Paul show for the Giants, as the second-year defensive end gave a taste of what might be coming. He had two sacks in the Giants' otherwise unimpressive 20-10 loss to the Carolina Panthers, nearly had a third and forced a bad throw that turned into a 56-yard interception return for a touchdown by linebacker Michael Boley.

 

He was way too much for Jordan Gross, the Panthers' nine-year veteran left tackle, to handle. And he looked comfortable starting in Umenyiora's spot at right defensive end.

 

"I thought I played pretty good," Pierre-Paul said. "I knew what I was supposed to do and I was just out there executing. I came out, and I wasn't nervous. I knew the play calls, and I caught on very well. I just felt good. It felt very good."

 

The 22-year-old defensive end looked very good, too. He was the brightest spot for the Giants in a mostly dreary debut for a team that general manager Jerry Reese guaranteed is bound for the playoffs. It was as sloppy and disjointed as expected considering they've only had 11 practices over the last two weeks.

 

Playing behind a shaky new-look offensive line, Eli Manning was 4-for-9 for 36 yards, and while he wasn't sacked he was hit at least three times. In all, the offense, which Manning said was "never able to get into a great rhythm," gained just 131 first-half yards.

 

The defense was a little better, despite some shoddy tackling that allowed Panthers quarterback Jimmy Clausen to go 4-for-7 for 69 yards, including an 18-yard touchdown to tight end Greg Olsen. But the defense did have four sacks in the first half, including those two by Pierre-Paul.

 

Of course, this was against a Panthers team that went 2-14 last year and gave up 50 sacks. But it was still impossible not to notice how physically dominant Pierre-Paul was. His impact started on the third play of the game, when he just blew around the 6-4, 305-pound Gross and was inches away from Clausen.

 

Feeling the pressure from Pierre-Paul and an incoming Justin Tuck from the other side, Clausen threw a terrible pass .toward his running back that landed right in the hands of Boley, who took off for the end zone.

 

"He really threw it right to me," Boley said. "It was a great way to start the preseason for the defense by putting some points on the board."

 

On the next series, Pierre-Paul nearly got a sack on second down, but was dragged down by Gross and fell at Clausen's feet. One play later, he made Gross look like a traffic cone by cutting inside, then outside, and then sliding right by him into Clausen's face.

 

That was quite a performance for the first seven plays of the game for a player who believes his potential for sacks this season is "unlimited." Later in the first quarter, he added his second sack by blowing around Gross again and catching Clausen on the run from behind.

 

His timing couldn't have been better, either, with Umenyiora expected back at practice this week after being told by a specialist in Atlanta that he doesn't need surgery on his ailing right knee. Umenyiora could return Monday, but also may wait to see if he can extract a little more money from the Giants.

 

Pierre-Paul, though, is giving the team a good reason not to give in to those demands.

 

 

No doubt Paul is in my top 50 DL, I have him in my top 30.

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Are up... and early preseason adjustments have already been made. We'll be making tweaks here and there over the course of the next couple of weeks. Comments and questions are certainly welcomed.

 

 

Great Job, would you consider adding to the list making it at least 60 players for each position, we have a 12 team league, and we draft 5 for each defensive position.

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Great Job, would you consider adding to the list making it at least 60 players for each position, we have a 12 team league, and we draft 5 for each defensive position.

I can ask... will let you know.

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Is it a bad thing if none of my DLs are on your list? :wacko:

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Is it a bad thing if none of my DLs are on your list? :wacko:

Not if you like picking high in your rookie drafts :tup:

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I know others have mentioned it before, but I think it would be very beneficial to at least list the players actual position. Still rank them a DL, LB, DB, but so many IDP leagues break up the positions into DT, DE, CB, S etc. That way at least owners can break them out if they like, but you still give the overall positional rankings. :wacko:

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I know others have mentioned it before, but I think it would be very beneficial to at least list the players actual position. Still rank them a DL, LB, DB, but so many IDP leagues break up the positions into DT, DE, CB, S etc. That way at least owners can break them out if they like, but you still give the overall positional rankings. :tup:

:wacko:

 

We do that for the weekly rankings - let me see if that's some thing our software can incorporate into these preseason draft rankings.

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:wacko:

 

We do that for the weekly rankings - let me see if that's some thing our software can incorporate into these preseason draft rankings.

:tup: Just noticed this weekend.

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:wacko: Just noticed this weekend.

Yeah apparently it wasn't too tough to add in, thankfully. We're working on some updated rankings which should be out later this week.

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Great Job, would you consider adding to the list making it at least 60 players for each position, we have a 12 team league, and we draft 5 for each defensive position.

 

Anything new on this

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