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I'm getting rid of Matt "noodle arm" Ryan and Roddy White

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Who agrees? i should have gotten rid of White along time ago..So sick of watching the falcons this year

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who cares.

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I think you should cut Ryan and get Grossman off waivers and cut Roddy White and get Brandon LaFells off waivers.

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I posted this earlier this year for those that had high expectations for Roddy White

http://forums.thehuddle.com/index.php?s=&a...t&p=3477664

 

With regards to expectations some have for Roddy White you might be interested in the following info:

 

This is a list of all players in NFL history that have had 100+ catches in a season and the number of times they had 100+:

(the number in the parentheses is the players age and the plus sign means they are in the HOF)

Andre Johnson (25) 103 2006 HOU

Andre Johnson (27) 115 2008 HOU

Andre Johnson (28) 101 2009 HOU

Anquan Boldin (23) 101 2003 ARI

Anquan Boldin (25) 102 2005 ARI

Art Monk+ (27) 106 1984 WAS

Brandon Marshall (23) 102 2007 DEN

Brandon Marshall (24) 104 2008 DEN

Brandon Marshall (25) 101 2009 DEN

Brett Perriman (30) 108 1995 DET

I'M A TOOL Pickens (26) 100 1996 CIN

Charley Hennigan (29) 101 1964 HOU

Cris Carter (29) 122 1994 MIN

Cris Carter (30) 122 1995 MIN

Dallas Clark (30) 100 2009 IND

Derrick Mason (33) 103 2007 BAL

Ed McCaffrey (32) 101 2000 DEN

Eric Metcalf (27) 104 1995 ATL

Eric Moulds (29) 100 2002 BUF

Haywood Jeffires (27) 100 1991 HOU

Herman Moore (26) 123 1995 DET

Herman Moore (27) 106 1996 DET

Herman Moore (28) 104 1997 DET

Hines Ward (26) 112 2002 PIT

Isaac Bruce (23) 119 1995 STL

Jerry Rice+ (28) 100 1990 SFO

Jerry Rice+ (32) 112 1994 SFO

Jerry Rice+ (33) 122 1995 SFO

Jerry Rice+ (34) 108 1996 SFO

Jimmy Smith (30) 116 1999 JAX

Jimmy Smith (32) 112 2001 JAX

Keyshawn Johnson (29) 106 2001 TAM

LaDainian Tomlinson (24) 100 2003 SDG

Larry Centers (27) 101 1995 ARI

Larry Fitzgerald (22) 103 2005 ARI

Larry Fitzgerald (24) 100 2007 ARI

Lionel Taylor (26) 100 1961 DEN

Marty Booker (25) 100 2001 CHI

Marvin Harrison (27) 115 1999 IND

Marvin Harrison (28) 102 2000 IND

Marvin Harrison (29) 109 2001 IND

Marvin Harrison (30) 143 2002 IND

Michael Irvin+ (29) 111 1995 DAL

Muhsin Muhammad (27) 102 2000 CAR

Randy Moss (25) 106 2002 MIN

Randy Moss (26) 111 2003 MIN

Reggie Wayne (29) 104 2007 IND

Reggie Wayne (31) 100 2009 IND

Reggie Wayne (32) 111 2010 IND

Robert Brooks (25) 102 1995 GNB

Rod Smith (30) 100 2000 DEN

Rod Smith (31) 113 2001 DEN

Roddy White (29) 115 2010 ATL

Sterling Sharpe (27) 108 1992 GNB

Sterling Sharpe (28) 112 1993 GNB

Steve Smith (24) 107 2009 NYG

Steve Smith (26) 103 2005 CAR

T.J. Houshmandzadeh (30) 112 2007 CIN

Terance Mathis (27) 111 1994 ATL

Terrell Owens (29) 100 2002 SFO

Tim Brown (31) 104 1997 OAK

Tony Gonzalez (28) 102 2004 KAN

Torry Holt (27) 117 2003 STL

Torry Holt (29) 102 2005 STL

Troy Brown (30) 101 2001 NWE

Wes Welker (26) 112 2007 NWE

Wes Welker (27) 111 2008 NWE

Wes Welker (28) 123 2009 NWE

 

 

What the above shows is that only 10 times has a player been able to increase on their 100+ catch season the very next year.

I should also add that Chris Carter had back to back 122 catch seasons and is not included in the above...he is also the only player to catch 115 or more passes in a season and not to see a decrease in his catches the following year. Roddy caught 115 passes last year.

 

Marvin Harrison is the only player in history to increase a 100+ catch season for two consecutive seasons:

102 2000

109 2001

143 2002

 

Harrison is also the only WR to record 100+ catches in 4 consecutive seasons

 

Harrison and Rice are the only two WRs to have 4 seasons with 100 or more catches

 

Four other players have logged 3 of those types of seasons: Andre Johnson, Herman Moore, Reggie Wayne & Wes Welker

 

I guess what I am saying is to temper your expectations for Roddy White.

 

 

 

 

 

And this is a list that includes all the season the above players had above 83 catches(I pulled the all time reception leaders at Pro-Football Reference.com and that is the number they cut off at)

 

Andre Johnson (25) 103 2006 HOU

Andre Johnson (27) 115 2008 HOU

Andre Johnson (28) 101 2009 HOU

Andre Johnson (29) 86 2010 HOU

Anquan Boldin (23) 101 2003 ARI

Anquan Boldin (25) 102 2005 ARI

Anquan Boldin (26) 83 2006 ARI

Anquan Boldin (28) 89 2008 ARI

Anquan Boldin (29) 84 2009 ARI

Art Monk+ (27) 106 1984 WAS

Art Monk+ (28) 91 1985 WAS

Art Monk+ (32) 86 1989 WAS

Brandon Marshall (23) 102 2007 DEN

Brandon Marshall (24) 104 2008 DEN

Brandon Marshall (25) 101 2009 DEN

Brandon Marshall (26) 86 2010 MIA

Brett Perriman (30) 108 1995 DET

Brett Perriman (31) 94 1996 DET

I'M A TOOL Pickens (25) 99 1995 CIN

I'M A TOOL Pickens (26) 100 1996 CIN

Charley Hennigan (29) 101 1964 HOU

Cris Carter (28) 86 1993 MIN

Cris Carter (29) 122 1994 MIN

Cris Carter (30) 122 1995 MIN

Cris Carter (31) 96 1996 MIN

Cris Carter (32) 89 1997 MIN

Cris Carter (34) 90 1999 MIN

Cris Carter (35) 96 2000 MIN

Dallas Clark (30) 100 2009 IND

Derrick Mason (29) 95 2003 TEN

Derrick Mason (30) 96 2004 TEN

Derrick Mason (31) 86 2005 BAL

Derrick Mason (33) 103 2007 BAL

Ed McCaffrey (32) 101 2000 DEN

Eric Metcalf (27) 104 1995 ATL

Eric Moulds (27) 94 2000 BUF

Eric Moulds (29) 100 2002 BUF

Eric Moulds (31) 88 2004 BUF

Haywood Jeffires (27) 100 1991 HOU

Haywood Jeffires (28) 90 1992 HOU

Herman Moore (26) 123 1995 DET

Herman Moore (27) 106 1996 DET

Herman Moore (28) 104 1997 DET

Hines Ward (25) 94 2001 PIT

Hines Ward (26) 112 2002 PIT

Hines Ward (27) 95 2003 PIT

Hines Ward (33) 95 2009 PIT

Isaac Bruce (23) 119 1995 STL

Isaac Bruce (24) 84 1996 STL

Isaac Bruce (28) 87 2000 STL

Isaac Bruce (32) 89 2004 STL

Jerry Rice+ (24) 86 1986 SFO

Jerry Rice+ (28) 100 1990 SFO

Jerry Rice+ (30) 84 1992 SFO

Jerry Rice+ (31) 98 1993 SFO

Jerry Rice+ (32) 112 1994 SFO

Jerry Rice+ (33) 122 1995 SFO

Jerry Rice+ (34) 108 1996 SFO

Jerry Rice+ (39) 83 2001 OAK

Jerry Rice+ (40) 92 2002 OAK

Jimmy Smith (27) 83 1996 JAX

Jimmy Smith (30) 116 1999 JAX

Jimmy Smith (31) 91 2000 JAX

Jimmy Smith (32) 112 2001 JAX

Keyshawn Johnson (26) 83 1998 NYJ

Keyshawn Johnson (27) 89 1999 NYJ

Keyshawn Johnson (29) 106 2001 TAM

LaDainian Tomlinson (24) 100 2003 SDG

Larry Centers (27) 101 1995 ARI

Larry Centers (28) 99 1996 ARI

Larry Fitzgerald (22) 103 2005 ARI

Larry Fitzgerald (24) 100 2007 ARI

Larry Fitzgerald (25) 96 2008 ARI

Larry Fitzgerald (26) 97 2009 ARI

Larry Fitzgerald (27) 90 2010 ARI

Lionel Taylor (25) 92 1960 DEN

Lionel Taylor (26) 100 1961 DEN

Lionel Taylor (30) 85 1965 DEN

Marty Booker (25) 100 2001 CHI

Marty Booker (26) 97 2002 CHI

Marvin Harrison (27) 115 1999 IND

Marvin Harrison (28) 102 2000 IND

Marvin Harrison (29) 109 2001 IND

Marvin Harrison (30) 143 2002 IND

Marvin Harrison (31) 94 2003 IND

Marvin Harrison (32) 86 2004 IND

Marvin Harrison (34) 95 2006 IND

Michael Irvin+ (25) 93 1991 DAL

Michael Irvin+ (27) 88 1993 DAL

Michael Irvin+ (29) 111 1995 DAL

Muhsin Muhammad (26) 96 1999 CAR

Muhsin Muhammad (27) 102 2000 CAR

Muhsin Muhammad (31) 93 2004 CAR

Randy Moss (25) 106 2002 MIN

Randy Moss (26) 111 2003 MIN

Randy Moss (30) 98 2007 NWE

Randy Moss (32) 83 2009 NWE

Reggie Wayne (27) 83 2005 IND

Reggie Wayne (28) 86 2006 IND

Reggie Wayne (29) 104 2007 IND

Reggie Wayne (31) 100 2009 IND

Reggie Wayne (32) 111 2010 IND

Robert Brooks (25) 102 1995 GNB

Rod Smith (28) 86 1998 DEN

Rod Smith (30) 100 2000 DEN

Rod Smith (31) 113 2001 DEN

Rod Smith (32) 89 2002 DEN

Rod Smith (35) 85 2005 DEN

Roddy White (26) 83 2007 ATL

Roddy White (27) 88 2008 ATL

Roddy White (28) 85 2009 ATL

Roddy White (29) 115 2010 ATL

Sterling Sharpe (24) 90 1989 GNB

Sterling Sharpe (27) 108 1992 GNB

Sterling Sharpe (28) 112 1993 GNB

Sterling Sharpe (29) 94 1994 GNB

Steve Smith (24) 107 2009 NYG

Steve Smith (24) 88 2003 CAR

Steve Smith (26) 103 2005 CAR

Steve Smith (27) 83 2006 CAR

Steve Smith (28) 87 2007 CAR

T.J. Houshmandzadeh (29) 90 2006 CIN

T.J. Houshmandzadeh (30) 112 2007 CIN

T.J. Houshmandzadeh (31) 92 2008 CIN

Terance Mathis (27) 111 1994 ATL

Terrell Owens (27) 97 2000 SFO

Terrell Owens (28) 93 2001 SFO

Terrell Owens (29) 100 2002 SFO

Terrell Owens (33) 85 2006 DAL

Tim Brown (28) 89 1994 RAI

Tim Brown (29) 89 1995 OAK

Tim Brown (30) 90 1996 OAK

Tim Brown (31) 104 1997 OAK

Tim Brown (33) 90 1999 OAK

Tim Brown (35) 91 2001 OAK

Tony Gonzalez (24) 93 2000 KAN

Tony Gonzalez (28) 102 2004 KAN

Tony Gonzalez (31) 99 2007 KAN

Tony Gonzalez (32) 96 2008 KAN

Tony Gonzalez (33) 83 2009 ATL

Torry Holt (26) 91 2002 STL

Torry Holt (27) 117 2003 STL

Torry Holt (28) 94 2004 STL

Torry Holt (29) 102 2005 STL

Torry Holt (30) 93 2006 STL

Torry Holt (31) 93 2007 STL

Troy Brown (29) 83 2000 NWE

Troy Brown (30) 101 2001 NWE

Troy Brown (31) 97 2002 NWE

Wes Welker (26) 112 2007 NWE

Wes Welker (27) 111 2008 NWE

Wes Welker (28) 123 2009 NWE

Wes Welker (29) 86 2010 NWE

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White for sure is a disappointment this year and after today's game will be hard to trade.

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White for sure is a disappointment this year and after today's game will be hard to trade.

 

I'll trade you Mike Williams (TB) for him .... :wacko:

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Typical knee-jerk reaction from someone who didn't watch the game... Roddy drew two PI flags on endzone passes that he easily would have caught had the defender not interfered (one being a 30-40 yard rainbow right on the money). Both resulted in 1st downs around the 1, where of course Turner is gonna vulture a TD.

 

Add to that the Panthers are terrible against the run, so outside of them interfering with roddy to take away his TDs, the gamplan went exactly as it was supposed to to get the Falcons O back on track..

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Who agrees? i should have gotten rid of White along time ago..So sick of watching the falcons this year

Here we go again you're sick of more people it's like groundhogs day with you playing the role of Bill Murray :wacko:

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Typical knee-jerk reaction from someone who didn't watch the game... Roddy drew two PI flags on endzone passes that he easily would have caught had the defender not interfered (one being a 30-40 yard rainbow right on the money). Both resulted in 1st downs around the 1, where of course Turner is gonna vulture a TD.

Add to that the Panthers are terrible against the run, so outside of them interfering with roddy to take away his TDs, the gamplan went exactly as it was supposed to to get the Falcons O back on track..

 

Welcome to my Under The Numbers column, sir. Well played.

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I'll trade you Mike Williams (TB) for him .... :wacko:

 

Lucky me, I have have Roddy White AND Mike Williams TBB. Been a rough year....

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Typical knee-jerk reaction from someone who didn't watch the game... Roddy drew two PI flags on endzone passes that he easily would have caught had the defender not interfered (one being a 30-40 yard rainbow right on the money). Both resulted in 1st downs around the 1, where of course Turner is gonna vulture a TD.

 

Add to that the Panthers are terrible against the run, so outside of them interfering with roddy to take away his TDs, the gamplan went exactly as it was supposed to to get the Falcons O back on track..

 

He is helping his team win in real football, but for fantasy sake, his 2 tds and only ONE game over 100 yards is way below where he should be or in other words he is not performing what most expected when they drafted him in the second round. He might fall to #30 in receiving after this week.

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Believe me, as a White owner, I share your frustrations. But assuming he gets over the drops and starts getting TDs to go his way like they didn't today, he could be just fine. It isnt like he's not getting the targets, and he's too good and favored in the passing game not to rebound for some better games... I mean, IIRC they extrapolated Whites numbers, where he was still on pace for over 100 catches and over 1,000, before he's even turned it on yet...

 

Also, Ryan looked a lot more comfortable today with a lot of no-huddle and the running game keeping them honest. If those Roddy passes had gone like they should, then there'd be a completely different vibe about Ryan and Roddy going forward. The schedule gets much easier too...

 

 

(Edit: Smart phone my ass)

Edited by delusions of granduer

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Roddy White is still relevant. Mike Williams is not. I'd hold Roddy, and buy low if I didn't have him.

Edited by JUMbotron

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I'll trade you Mike Williams (TB) for him .... :wacko:

 

 

 

:tup: I meant for someone worth having!

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I'm a fan of Ryan and White...I'm in for the long haul hoping he turns it around.

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Roddy White and to a lesser extent Matt Ryan are great buy lows right now. If you can get someone to over-react to Roddy's slow start, grab him. His talent will shine through when all is said and done.

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I'M A TOOL Pickens (26) 100 1996 CIN

:wacko: Wow, someone at the Huddle really doesn't like Carl Pickens. :tup:

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Roddy White is still relevant. Mike Williams is not. I'd hold Roddy, and buy low if I didn't have him.

 

 

Would you put Roddy above or below Rex Grossman. :wacko:

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Who agrees? i should have gotten rid of White along time ago..So sick of watching the falcons this year

 

I agree. I benched Roddy in one league this week. The other league where I could not afford to bench him I just went 0-6

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Would you put Roddy above or below Rex Grossman. :wacko:

Don't laugh. I recall one or two threads from about a month ago pimping Rex over Ryan.

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Even after today's clunker, he's still on pace for 91 catches and 995 yards. Even if one(of two**) of today's PI's in the end zone was caught instead, things start looking considerably better. White racks up his fantasy points mainly from PPR and then from yards and TD's to a lesser extent. You can realistically expect about 1300-1400yards and 10 TD's from him, and there's plenty of time left in the season for him to get there.

 

 

 

**Nothing worse than your stud WR losing a sure TD to a PI, then having the TD vultured by a RB. It's like being kicked in the junk. It's like Ricky "I Vulture TDs When I'm Not Fumbling" Freaking Williams scoring the short TD after Rice ran it all the way to the one yard line. I bet you can't guess who my RB1 is and who my opponent had to start at RB2 because of byes this week are, can you?

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**Nothing worse than your stud WR losing a sure TD to a PI, then having the TD vultured by a RB

 

Especially when you're starting Roddy and facing Turner. Thanks, worthless, dirty Carolina defense.

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