Sign in to follow this  
Azazello1313

McJobs

Recommended Posts

 

 

Yeah, it's called corporate welfare...the gov't owns AGI because it was deemed "too big to fail" - ergo, anything "too big to fail" shouldn't exist, right?

 

Taxes have nothing to do with regulation, either, when it comes down to it.

 

 

So you agree then that Federal intervention and manipulation is a bad thing, right?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

So you agree then that Federal intervention and manipulation is a bad thing, right?

 

 

I do think government intervention is needed to bring manufacturing brack to this country. Having a strong industrial sector should also revive the middle class.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

A few questions for the group:

 

Why is it wrong and evil to be rich in our country all of the sudden? Isn't that the essence of the "American Dream"?

 

Why do we only have two effective political parties in our country? The only choices out there right now are to support an extremely conservative party or an extremly liberal party?

 

What is wrong with term limits if everyone agrees career politcians are a big part of the problem?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

The GOP's "jobs bill" is pretty simplistic: Get the Federal government off of the private sector's back and jobs will be a byproduct of the recovery.

 

 

:rofl:

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

<sigh>

 

According to the Congressional Budget Office, corporate tax receipts as a share of corporate profits have hit their lowest point in 40 years:

 

 

Corporate tax receipts as a share of profits are at their lowest level in at least 40 years.
Total corporate federal taxes paid fell to 12.1% of profits earned from activities within the U.S. in fiscal 2011, which ended Sept. 30, according to the Congressional Budget Office. That’s the lowest level since at least 1972.
And well below the 25.6% companies paid on average from 1987 to 2008.

 

 

not sure what they include that's not included in the CBO's 12.1%, but the world bank has stats on this and we are pretty high on the list, at least among the developed, OECD nations.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Why do we only have two effective political parties in our country? The only choices out there right now are to support an extremely conservative party or an extremly liberal party?

 

 

I disagree with your characterization. our two parties are a lot more similar than we are led to believe. it's to their interests to play up the differences to rally the troops and cast the partisan struggle in manichean terms.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I disagree with your characterization. our two parties are a lot more similar than we are led to believe. it's to their interests to play up the differences to rally the troops and cast the partisan struggle in manichean terms.

 

 

That is an interesting take. I am not the most politically astute, but it does seem to me, at least in this election year, the two parties are drawing opposite stances on some issues. Gay marriage, taxation, health care, etc.

 

I will agree at thier base politicians from both sides seem to be similar in that their number one priority is to stay in office.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I disagree with your characterization. our two parties are a lot more similar than we are led to believe. it's to their interests to play up the differences to rally the troops and cast the partisan struggle in manichean terms.

 

That is an interesting take. I am not the most politically astute, but it does seem to me, at least in this election year, the two parties are drawing opposite stances on some issues. Gay marriage, taxation, health care, etc.

 

I will agree at thier base politicians from both sides seem to be similar in that their number one priority is to stay in office.

 

 

And there's the rub. For all the left's "occupy wall street" and such, the obamessiah has taken more money from bankers than shrub ever thought about. They are only interested in furthering their power. The only real differences are on a few civil-liberties issues, both want to pander with tax breaks/transfer payments to those groups most likely to vote for them. And 99% of them won't oppose ANY spending if it can help them get re-elected.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

the obamessiah has taken more money from bankers than shrub ever thought about.

Is there any source for this info? The best I could find was this. :link:

 

Which states the following:

 

Top 5 contributors to Barack Obama

1) University of California

2) Microsoft Corp

3) Google Inc.

4) DLA Piper

5) Harvard University

 

Top 5 contributors to Mitt Romney

1) Goldman Sachs

2) JP Morgan Chase & Co

3) Morgan Stanley

4) Bank of America

5) Credit Suisse Group

 

I don't really think the bankers are backing Obama this round.

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

speaking of blame for fiscal stalemate and gridlock, I just recently read an interesting piece on that, detailing a lot of the inside baseball that went down between obama and boehner when they were actually incredibly close to a far-reaching debt deal before it fell apart at the last minute. it's a very balanced piece, and either side can find plenty of grist for their partisan mill.

 

 

another article out this morning, talking about woodward's new book on the subject. both of these are very good reading.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

A few questions for the group:

 

Why is it wrong and evil to be rich in our country all of the sudden?

 

To my knowledge, no one has made such a suggestion.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Is there any source for this info? The best I could find was this. :link:

 

Which states the following:

 

Top 5 contributors to Barack Obama

1) University of California

2) Microsoft Corp

3) Google Inc.

4) DLA Piper

5) Harvard University

 

Top 5 contributors to Mitt Romney

1) Goldman Sachs

2) JP Morgan Chase & Co

3) Morgan Stanley

4) Bank of America

5) Credit Suisse Group

 

I don't really think the bankers are backing Obama this round.

 

 

You're looking at this round. Look at four years ago. Here's a place to start

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Why do we only have two effective political parties in our country? The only choices out there right now are to support an extremely conservative party or an extremly liberal party?

 

The majority in power in the republican party are far from conservative. Romney invented Obamacare, and Paul Ryan thinks we have 28 years to balance a budget that future congresses will somehow abide by.

 

If "radical" conservatism is defect spending, then I guess I need to call my fiscal views something else then.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

You're looking at this round. Look at four years ago. Here's a place to start

So the big bank money used to go to Obama and has switched to Romney this round? :thinking: That actually sounds positive for Obama.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

speaking of jobs....another terribly disappointing report this morning. only 96,000 added. unemployment went down slightly, but only because a staggering 368,000 left the labor force, dropping the already historically low labor force participation rate even lower.

 

also, the numbers for the last two months were revised downward by a total of 41,000 jobs.

 

of those 96,000? 28,000 in "food services and drinking places". minus 15,000 in manufacturing.

Edited by Azazello1313

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

speaking of jobs....another terribly disappointing report this morning. only 96,000 added. unemployment went down slightly, but only because a staggering 368,000 left the labor force, dropping the already historically low labor force participation rate even lower.

 

of those 96,000? 28,000 in "food services and drinking places". minus 15,000 in manufacturing.

 

Sounds like we need better "job creators," because apparently the current ones suck.

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

speaking of jobs....another terribly disappointing report this morning. only 96,000 added. unemployment went down slightly, but only because a staggering 368,000 left the labor force, dropping the already historically low labor force participation rate even lower.

 

of those 96,000? 28,000 in "food services and drinking places". minus 15,000 in manufacturing.

 

I could have told you that :kicksrock:

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Just curious. Do Vetrans returning home from a major war and opting out of active service get bunched into the jobless and unemployment percentages?.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Just curious. Do Vetrans returning home from a major war and opting out of active service get bunched into the jobless and unemployment percentages?.

 

 

they get counted in the unemployment rate if they are actively seeking work and are unemployed.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I could have told you that :kicksrock:

 

 

move to Washington John, there are almost as many engineering jobs around here as the medical field. Boeing etc hire all sorts of engineers all the time.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

move to Washington John, there are almost as many engineering jobs around here as the medical field. Boeing etc hire all sorts of engineers all the time.

 

I've been looking there too, but Boeing does not hire civil engineers.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I've been looking there too, but Boeing does not hire civil engineers.

 

 

Be less civil. I can give you some rudeness leasons if you'd like.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I've been looking there too, but Boeing does not hire civil engineers.

 

 

"Listen Mr Boeing, I got the best idea ever - ASPHALT AIRPLANES."

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
Sign in to follow this  

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    No registered users viewing this page.