DaFreak Posted October 2, 2015 Author Share Posted October 2, 2015 Ill answer your question with a question, why would anyone ever pay $1000 for a straight up normal every day penny? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grits and Shins Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 Ill answer your question with a question, why would anyone ever pay $1000 for a straight up normal every day penny? The same reason Dallas traded a 7th round pick for Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hardway Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 Can anyone name the last RB to come out of Texas A&M that amounted to anything as a RB in the NFL? Now you're really reaching man, what does his alma mater have to do with his potential NFL success? You're fighting hard against the CMike hype, which is totally reasonable as the hype is beyond speculative at this point, but honestly, do you see Big D rolling through the whole season with Randle and the #1 back? DMC is glass house just waiting for a rock, and Dunbar is a 3rd down back and dumpoff specialist, I don't see why CMike is any more speculative than any other non-starting RB in the league, and the position he would be in if he could earn the starting role is better than 90% of the other RB's in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HowboutthemCowboys Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 If I pay $1000 for a straight up normal every day penny ... does the fact that I paid $1000 for it give it any more value than 1 cent? your last 3 posts are laughable. You've been asked twice to show rbs that are available on the wire in a 12 team league (that isnt a league full of dorks) that would be a better hold right now than Cmike. Still waiting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaFreak Posted October 2, 2015 Author Share Posted October 2, 2015 The same reason Dallas traded a 7th round pick for Michael Ok, so you are smarter then them, got it. Bottom line though is they did trade for a 4th string RB who now appears to be playing this weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Brown Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 The fact that they traded for a "4th string" RB at all should tell you something. A conditional 7th? The fact Michael couldn't beat out a rookie UDFA and a 34 year old Fred Jackson also should also tell you something. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grits and Shins Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 Ok, so you are smarter then them, got it. Bottom line though is they did trade for a 4th string RB who now appears to be playing this weekend. Well you basically said since Dallas traded for him that he has value, to which I responded that the simple fact that somebody pays (trades) for something doesn't imbue the object with value. With a little Google work I bet you could find plenty of players who were traded and never amounted to anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grits and Shins Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 Now you're really reaching man, what does his alma mater have to do with his potential NFL success? You're fighting hard against the CMike hype, which is totally reasonable as the hype is beyond speculative at this point, but honestly, do you see Big D rolling through the whole season with Randle and the #1 back? DMC is glass house just waiting for a rock, and Dunbar is a 3rd down back and dumpoff specialist, I don't see why CMike is any more speculative than any other non-starting RB in the league, and the position he would be in if he could earn the starting role is better than 90% of the other RB's in the NFL. I think you are a bit naive if you don't realize that the programs at some schools don't develop NFL talent at some positions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grits and Shins Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 your last 3 posts are laughable. You've been asked twice to show rbs that are available on the wire in a 12 team league (that isnt a league full of dorks) that would be a better hold right now than Cmike. Still waiting On my waiver wire I would any of these before Michael: Dunbar Powell Antonio Andrews Thomas Rawls But really I am more inclined to find a WR prospect than a RB prospect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Brown Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 your last 3 posts are laughable. You've been asked twice to show rbs that are available on the wire in a 12 team league (that isnt a league full of dorks) that would be a better hold right now than Cmike. Still waiting In a high stakes FFPC league I'm in - Michael got dropped last night by a team for Antonio Andrews. Other RBs picked up in the same run include Thomas Rawls, Chris Thompson, and Steven Ridley. I know Grits can be stubborn and irrational - but he's right on this one. Michael "might" be active this week on a team that already has a fairly effective 3 headed RBBC? Of course there is probably better value floating around. I understand the hype - Michaels is explosive. Heck on "an other" forum there is something like a 3 year old 100 page thread on the guy. But so far he has made a short career out of a guy with potential that rarely makes an active game day roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hardway Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 On my waiver wire I would any of these before Michael: Dunbar Powell Antonio Andrews Thomas Rawls But really I am more inclined to find a WR prospect than a RB prospect If your squad is ok at RB, then maybe, but unless you're in PPR, any of those choices have WAY less upside then CMike, and even then... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaFreak Posted October 2, 2015 Author Share Posted October 2, 2015 A conditional 7th? The fact Michael couldn't beat out a rookie UDFA and a 34 year old Fred Jackson also should also tell you something. I think there is a lot more to do with it then that.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hardway Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 (edited) I think you are a bit naive if you don't realize that the programs at some schools don't develop NFL talent at some positions. So where's this NFL RB factory you speak of? I mean, it's impossible to prove a negative, so let's have a positive. Edited October 2, 2015 by hardway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaFreak Posted October 2, 2015 Author Share Posted October 2, 2015 In a high stakes FFPC league I'm in - Michael got dropped last night by a team for Antonio Andrews. Other RBs picked up in the same run include Thomas Rawls, Chris Thompson, and Steven Ridley. I know Grits can be stubborn and irrational - but he's right on this one. Michael "might" be active this week on a team that already has a fairly effective 3 headed RBBC? Of course there is probably better value floating around. I understand the hype - Michaels is explosive. Heck on "an other" forum there is something like a 3 year old 100 page thread on the guy. But so far he has made a short career out of a guy with potential that rarely makes an active game day roster. Pretty sure there was quite a bit of animosity that developed between he and the coaching staff. A change of scenery can only be good, I am sure he feels like he has a new lease on life. Ever changed jobs/careers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grits and Shins Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 So where's this NFL RB factory you speak of? Re-read what I said ... I said there are programs that DO NOT develop NFL talent at some positions ... and I even asked if anybody could name the last RB out of A&M (okay ANY RB out of A&M) that amounted to anything at the RB position. There were several that contributed on special teams but never really at RB (Greg Hill, maybe Leeland McElroy too). A&M traditionally is a source of defensive linemen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HowboutthemCowboys Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 Dunbar Powell Antonio Andrews Thomas Rawls But really I am more inclined to find a WR prospect than a RB prospect way gone in my 3 leaguesditto rbbc at best and on bye this wk I own him in all 3 This thread is about end of bench , why the hell not RB fliers, not wr prospects 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HowboutthemCowboys Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 In a high stakes FFPC league I'm in - Michael got dropped last night by a team for Antonio Andrews. Other RBs picked up in the same run include Thomas Rawls, Chris Thompson, and Steven Ridley. I know Grits can be stubborn and irrational - but he's right on this one. Michael "might" be active this week on a team that already has a fairly effective 3 headed RBBC? Of course there is probably better value floating around. I understand the hype - Michaels is explosive. Heck on "an other" forum there is something like a 3 year old 100 page thread on the guy. But so far he has made a short career out of a guy with potential that rarely makes an active game day roster. Rb fliers are just that..fliers. If you hit one its a huge advantage, obviously. I understand that everyone has different feelings about different players and Grits isn't necessarily wrong. His reasoning on why no one should roster him though, is stupid. I have a strong feeling he will get a chance to get serious carries in Dallas at some pt this season, I have no idea what he'll do with them, but il risk a bench spot for now to see. FWIW, I don't see how a "high stakes waiver" is any different from a local full of experienced players. Anyway, RIDLEY? oh my.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bud29 Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 Certainly in the mix to possibly be active? Picking him up in all my leagues right now! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaFreak Posted October 2, 2015 Author Share Posted October 2, 2015 Certainly in the mix to possibly be active? Picking him up in all my leagues right now! LOL, he will be active, he will play. What he does with his chance is worth what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gilthorp Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 bud.......no...........wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaFreak Posted October 2, 2015 Author Share Posted October 2, 2015 I can't believe its that hard to follow this bouncing ball named Christine Michael... How common is it for a team to trade for a 4th string RB who 3 weeks later is suggested to be "in the mix" to be part of the game plan? In my book, this one is pretty easy.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wpob Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 (edited) Exactly. I have 2 spots on my bench where I rotate speculative adds. Right now it's Green-Beckham and CMIKE. My starting lineup is fully in tact and performing well. I am perfectly fine holding him. Why go after guys you know are average? Those are my two bench holds too. I have higher hopes for D.G.B. but will hold CMike for a few weeks just in case. Edited October 2, 2015 by Wpob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big John Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 Still need to modify the language filter to allow D G B. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphashado Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 "Randle's rushing yards after his hot start. After a roaring 85 yards on his first three totes, Randle managed just two yards on eleven carries, with the following totals: 1; -1; 1 (TD); 4; 1; 0; 1 (TD); -1: -4; 2; -2. Those eleven runs spanned roughly 51 minutes of game time, from the 10:36 mark in the first quarter to the 4:36 point in the fourth. In other words, other than an initial early explosion, the Falcons shut Randle down, DeMarco Murray-style." Coaches are impressed by 3 carries for a total of 85 yards. Of course they are. However, they are likely much more unimpressed with the fact that Randle totaled only 2 yards on the next 11 carries including several runs for negative yards. He couldn't get it done when they needed him to get it done. He couldn't run up the middle to run the clock out and it cost Dallas the game. This is why CM is getting a closer look. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowboyz1 Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 "Randle's rushing yards after his hot start. After a roaring 85 yards on his first three totes, Randle managed just two yards on eleven carries, with the following totals: 1; -1; 1 (TD); 4; 1; 0; 1 (TD); -1: -4; 2; -2. Those eleven runs spanned roughly 51 minutes of game time, from the 10:36 mark in the first quarter to the 4:36 point in the fourth. In other words, other than an initial early explosion, the Falcons shut Randle down, DeMarco Murray-style." Coaches are impressed by 3 carries for a total of 85 yards. Of course they are. However, they are likely much more unimpressed with the fact that Randle totaled only 2 yards on the next 11 carries including several runs for negative yards. He couldn't get it done when they needed him to get it done. He couldn't run up the middle to run the clock out and it cost Dallas the game. This is why CM is getting a closer look. Good info here. Randle did more to get himself sat down then more carries. He went totally soft when they needed him to grind out some tough yards for Weeden. He missed the hole on few carries and ran right into Justin Durant on a play that should have went around the edge and out the gate. We will see DMC get his chance to start and play Randle's role before Christine. As of now pass protection is more important then speculative running opportunities. Christine has yet to show he can pass protect in our scheme so they need to see that first. DMC is far and away the best short yardage back that runs with power and decisiveness. I can't wait to see him get the lion share of carries. When he gets his chance, I can see him never looking back and Randle coming in for relief which is what he is. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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