BeeR Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 They got the TD but not getting the play calling from PHI there. 10-12 yds out and they keep running the all-power/no speed or moves Blount over and over....then on the 1 finally pass it? Wouldn't that had made more sense the other way around, or at least mix it up more from the start? Also did it seem to anyone else like Blount just takes the ball and sort of wades into the line? It's like he's not even trying to look for a hole, just hoping the pile in the area he's in eventually ends up in the end zone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CowboysDiehard Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 33 minutes ago, BeeR said: They got the TD but not getting the play calling from PHI there. 10-12 yds out and they keep running the all-power/no speed or moves Blount over and over....then on the 1 finally pass it? Wouldn't that had made more sense the other way around, or at least mix it up more from the start? Also did it seem to anyone else like Blount just takes the ball and sort of wades into the line? It's like he's not even trying to look for a hole, just hoping the pile in the area he's in eventually ends up in the end zone. They're up 18-10 and dominating the Panthers in every stage of the game. Great coaching from Peterson so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montana is da Man Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 They may be dominating, but they're only up 5 at the end of the 3rd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cliaz Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 All I know is I'm glad I started Ertz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CowboysDiehard Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 3 minutes ago, Montana is da Man said: They may be dominating, but they're only up 5 at the end of the 3rd Ahem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montana is da Man Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 15 minutes ago, CowboysDiehard said: Ahem. Right back at you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beardown34 Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 How does Jeffery not get any red zone looks? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CowboysDiehard Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 2 minutes ago, Montana is da Man said: Right back at you Hey I'd love to be wrong. I took CAR and laid the 3...doesn't look like that's going to pan out, however. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montana is da Man Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 10 minutes ago, CowboysDiehard said: Hey I'd love to be wrong. I took CAR and laid the 3...doesn't look like that's going to pan out, however. IF they happen to score here, they'll go for two Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papa Deuce Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 Wentz is the real deal... can't wait to see him 2 years from now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forever in debt to mo lewis Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 I'm a mccaffrey owner and even though he hasn't been terrible and had a nice point total last night I'm still perplexed I didn't expect him to be l fournette or anything....but his usage still puzzles me....the guy had 3 touches until the last 2-3 minutes of the 1st half....he ended the 1st half with 5 catches but 3 of them came in the 2 minute drill at the end of the half now..i didn't watch the 2nd half...but id venture to say his other 5 catches were prob similar? it seems like Carolina makes no effort to get him involved unless they are chasing points.....to me he is a pace setter that will only help them open things up and score points early if they get him involved...and they don't seem interested in it......theres almost 0 creativity there on offense.....if mccaffrey were in several other cities I think hed be busting out.... they need to actually put the ball in his hands early and I'm sure it will open things up for everyone....stewart at this point is trash....if they are going to have him on the field theres no reason mccaffrey cant be out there too....all this talk about how linebackers cant cover Christian...well get him lined up on em and let him go to work to me its like Carolina took this kid 8th overall and they would prefer to bang stewart and let cam put up some points and just let mccaffrey return punts lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CowboysDiehard Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 3 hours ago, forever in debt to mo lewis said: I'm a mccaffrey owner and even though he hasn't been terrible and had a nice point total last night I'm still perplexed I didn't expect him to be l fournette or anything....but his usage still puzzles me....the guy had 3 touches until the last 2-3 minutes of the 1st half....he ended the 1st half with 5 catches but 3 of them came in the 2 minute drill at the end of the half now..i didn't watch the 2nd half...but id venture to say his other 5 catches were prob similar? it seems like Carolina makes no effort to get him involved unless they are chasing points.....to me he is a pace setter that will only help them open things up and score points early if they get him involved...and they don't seem interested in it......theres almost 0 creativity there on offense.....if mccaffrey were in several other cities I think hed be busting out.... they need to actually put the ball in his hands early and I'm sure it will open things up for everyone....stewart at this point is trash....if they are going to have him on the field theres no reason mccaffrey cant be out there too....all this talk about how linebackers cant cover Christian...well get him lined up on em and let him go to work to me its like Carolina took this kid 8th overall and they would prefer to bang stewart and let cam put up some points and just let mccaffrey return punts lol He definitely seemed more involved in the second half. Like you, I haven't been overwhelmed by his usage so far, but you can definitely see him climbing the learning curve. I think he'll be just fine over the second half of the season as long as he can stay healthy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forever in debt to mo lewis Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 57 minutes ago, CowboysDiehard said: He definitely seemed more involved in the second half. Like you, I haven't been overwhelmed by his usage so far, but you can definitely see him climbing the learning curve. I think he'll be just fine over the second half of the season as long as he can stay healthy. agree...I think he can only gain steam....and stewart looked awful...not sure about whittakers injury just seems like they are hesitant to get him involved early in games....which is odd....for a guy they invested in and went through full camp without injury....just figured they would have him out there a lot and try to set a tone and open things up for the other guys a bit more you could clearly see teams are paying attention to him too.....the patriots basically let whitaker waltz in untouched on a miscommunication because guys were so concerned with making sure mccaffrey was accounted for....even on cams td run was opened up in part to him I dunno...maybe this coaching staff is real hesitant about a big role for a rookie, especially a smaller sized one, early in the year.....but I agree I could def see him gaining steam as the season goes on....its not like hes been a huge disappointment fantasy wise either.....just seems like Carolina isn't even coming close to maximizing the potential of this offense with him...although maybe that's their intention right now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaelredd9 Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 (edited) McCaffrey is on pace for 99 receptions. He isn't very good at running the ball. He has played 67% of offensive snaps this year which is a lot for a small fry. Last night he played 74% of snaps. Should he be getting more receptions, carries, or snaps? Edited October 13, 2017 by michaelredd9 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Def. Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 11 minutes ago, michaelredd9 said: McCaffrey is on pace for 99 receptions. He isn't very good at running the ball. He has played 67% of offensive snaps this year which is a lot for a small fry. Last night he played 74% of snaps. Should he be getting more receptions, carries, or snaps? When did 5'11" 205lbs become small for a RB? He's essentially the same size as McCoy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaelredd9 Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 4 minutes ago, Def. said: When did 5'11" 205lbs become small for a RB? He's essentially the same size as McCoy. 205 is on the small side for a running back. And he doesn't look 205 right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forever in debt to mo lewis Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 23 minutes ago, michaelredd9 said: McCaffrey is on pace for 99 receptions. He isn't very good at running the ball. He has played 67% of offensive snaps this year which is a lot for a small fry. Last night he played 74% of snaps. Should he be getting more receptions, carries, or snaps? should be touching the ball more....early......setting the tone/pace..... like I said...he had 3 touches until the last 3 minutes of the first half when they went 2 minute....... as I mentioned....he does help draw attention....but they don't seem creative with him as a receiver... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courduroy Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 Ron Rivera is a far better coach then I could dream about, but I am not sure why Panthers weren't running quick slants and screen passes all day against the aggressive Eagles blitz packages to catch them overpursuing. McCaffery is tailor made for that work. No one has ever said this before and never will again but "I think the Panthers miss Ted Ginn Jr." 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bltkmt Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 1 hour ago, Courduroy said: No one has ever said this before and never will again but "I think the Panthers miss Ted Ginn Jr." LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrab Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 14 hours ago, cliaz said: All I know is I'm glad I started Ertz Curious what other options were you considering and why? Is it the usual TNF curse (a drop in usual statistics). I was worried that he seemed to not be involved early, instead it was the WR and other TE even that were getting looks. But I never considered sitting him, my 2nd TE is Njoku but even if a better TE not sure they'd be active, he's been a stud so far this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaelredd9 Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 3 hours ago, Def. said: When did 5'11" 205lbs become small for a RB? He's essentially the same size as McCoy. 205 pounds has always been small for a running back. McCoy is listed at 210 and he is on the small side for a running back. McCaffrey weighed 202 at the combine. My guess is that he weighs less than 200 now. When he takes a solid hit he bounces like a ping pong. But if you are trying to think of small running backs that have prospered with a heavy load, there are a lot of examples. Some small guys are leathery tough. Some small guys are so elusive that they avoid big hits. McCaffrey hasn't been avoiding big hits. We will see if he is leathery tough. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Def. Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 1 hour ago, michaelredd9 said: 205 pounds has always been small for a running back. McCoy is listed at 210 and he is on the small side for a running back. McCaffrey weighed 202 at the combine. My guess is that he weighs less than 200 now. When he takes a solid hit he bounces like a ping pong. But if you are trying to think of small running backs that have prospered with a heavy load, there are a lot of examples. Some small guys are leathery tough. Some small guys are so elusive that they avoid big hits. McCaffrey hasn't been avoiding big hits. We will see if he is leathery tough. Small is Sproles, Cohen, Thompson...but whatever. I'm not going to try and counter your looks and guesses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaelredd9 Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 (edited) 54 minutes ago, Def. said: Small is Sproles, Cohen, Thompson...but whatever. I'm not going to try and counter your looks and guesses. The most carries a running back listed at 205 pounds or less had last year was Jerick McKinnon. He had the 26th most carries with 159. (Devonta Freeman is listed at 206 and had 227 carries) It is rare for small running backs to get a heavy load. Edited October 13, 2017 by michaelredd9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boltnlava Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 Tomlinson was 215....would ten pounds make that difference? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaelredd9 Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 4 minutes ago, boltnlava said: Tomlinson was 215....would ten pounds make that difference? Tomlinson weighed 221 at the combine. 10 pounds does make a difference. 215 is probably the lowest weight a running back can be without being considered small. 225 is probably ideal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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