Bobby Brown Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 On 4/7/2018 at 8:47 AM, whomper said: His lack of production is tied to Dak IMO. Romo spread the field and threw deep. Dink and Dak cant complete a pass greater than 10 yards. Give dez a guy like brees and he will be a no doubt tier 1 wr I had a friend was a big baseball playerBack in high schoolHe could throw that speedball by youMake you look like a fool boySaw him the other night at this roadside barI was walking in, he was walking outWe went back inside sat down had a few drinksBut all he kept talking about was Glory days, well, they'll pass you byGlory days, in the wink of a young girl's eyeGlory days, glory day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whomper Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 8 hours ago, Bobby Brown said: I had a friend was a big baseball playerBack in high schoolHe could throw that speedball by youMake you look like a fool boySaw him the other night at this roadside barI was walking in, he was walking outWe went back inside sat down had a few drinksBut all he kept talking about was Glory days, well, they'll pass you byGlory days, in the wink of a young girl's eyeGlory days, glory day Depending on where Dez signs, you will see. I am right here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gopher Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 1 hour ago, whomper said: Depending on where Dez signs, you will see. I am right here. Right, because if he pairs up with Rodgers or Brady, he'll be "elite" again, right? Those guys make everybody they throw to look better than they really are. Anywhere else, and he's still going to be Dez, which is a guy who shrivels in the face of adversity. Whether it be a lack of chemistry with his QB, facing a top-tier CB, or whatever the case may be, Dez doesn't handle it well. So, yeah, we MIGHT see a resurgence from Dez if he signs in the right place, but I would say the odds of him becoming a "Tier 1" WR again are pretty minimal. He's four years removed from any semblance of a great season, and only half of that can be blamed on Dak. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whomper Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 1 hour ago, Gopher said: Right, because if he pairs up with Rodgers or Brady, he'll be "elite" again, right? Those guys make everybody they throw to look better than they really are. Anywhere else, and he's still going to be Dez, which is a guy who shrivels in the face of adversity. Whether it be a lack of chemistry with his QB, facing a top-tier CB, or whatever the case may be, Dez doesn't handle it well. So, yeah, we MIGHT see a resurgence from Dez if he signs in the right place, but I would say the odds of him becoming a "Tier 1" WR again are pretty minimal. He's four years removed from any semblance of a great season, and only half of that can be blamed on Dak. So romo was elite. Finally, this board makes some sense. He dealt with injury as well in those 4 years. Even a decent passing qb will make dez relevant again. I love the heart dak has , but he cant throw deep. I was one of the few people that felt we were better off with romo. I agreed it was going to be hard to sit dak after what he did in romos absence, but i knew romo was head and shoulders above as far as a passer. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gopher Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 5 hours ago, whomper said: So romo was elite. Finally, this board makes some sense. He dealt with injury as well in those 4 years. Even a decent passing qb will make dez relevant again. I love the heart dak has , but he cant throw deep. I was one of the few people that felt we were better off with romo. I agreed it was going to be hard to sit dak after what he did in romos absence, but i knew romo was head and shoulders above as far as a passer. I think Romo was better than average, and Dez was in his prime during the 2012-2014 stretch in which he averaged roughly 90 catches, 1300+ yards, and 14 scores. I don't think Dez is necessarily washed up or old (he's only 29), but I think there are a number of reasons why the chances of him becoming a #1 WR (in terms of FF) again are slim. First and foremost, there are a number of places he could go where he wouldn't even be the best WR on the team. Being #2 on any team in the NFL means he's coming nowhere close to the numbers I referenced above. The exceptions to that might be NE and GB, and I'm sure there are reasons that I haven't even thought of that make both of those scenarios unlikely. He's not putting up those numbers next to OBJ in NY (see Brandon Marshall). He's certainly not putting up those numbers in NOS with Michael Thomas (not to mention NOS focusing more on run than pass the past couple of years), or with Julio in ATL. And, he's not putting up those numbers in places like PIT, MIN, CAR, SEA, etc. Those are just the first few good teams that crossed my mind. I haven't even started with the (longer) list of bad teams that he wouldn't begin to sniff those numbers with, for a variety of reasons. A change of scenery isn't going to help Dez if the team isn't a contender, and the list of contenders that could really use him at this point is a fairly short list. I guess it depends on our definitions of relevant. Do I think Dez could go somewhere and put up 60 catches for 800 yards and 6 TD's? Assuming he stays healthy and develops at least a moderate level of chemistry with the team/coach/QB, sure. But, if I had to put a number on it, not knowing where he will end up, I would say the chances of him reaching 1000 yards and 8 TD's is around 5 percent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darin3 Posted April 20, 2018 Author Share Posted April 20, 2018 Yeah even if he goes to NEP or GBP there's no way he gets close to his old numbers. Those offenses spread things around way too much for him to put up WR1 type of stats. He'd be lucky to approach 1,000 and 5-6 TDs regardless of location. I think 800/4 sounds about right if he lands in a good spot. He'd probably still have the red zone chops so maybe the TDs get up to 6 but that's in a very ideal location and assuming perfect health. Saw his Instagram video with OBJ... probably means nothing but the team cutting Marshall could be a signal. Maybe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CowboysDiehard Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whomper Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 (edited) If I were playing the Cowboys this year, i wouldn't even field a secondary. I would just put every eligible person on the line to stop zeke. Edited April 25, 2018 by whomper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CowboysDiehard Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 5 hours ago, whomper said: If I were playing the Cowboys this year, i wouldn't even field a secondary. I would just put every eligible person on the line to stop zeke. I tried this on Madden. It didn't end well! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HowboutthemCowboys Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 On 4/7/2018 at 11:47 AM, whomper said: His lack of production is tied to Dak IMO. Romo spread the field and threw deep. Dink and Dak cant complete a pass greater than 10 yards. Give dez a guy like brees and he will be a no doubt tier 1 wr I disagree. I think he's lost a cpl steps and has hands like bricks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Brown Posted May 9, 2018 Share Posted May 9, 2018 Why is it taking so long for a no doubt tier 1 WR to get a contract? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the lone star Posted May 9, 2018 Share Posted May 9, 2018 He should have gone to the Ravens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
byron2112 Posted May 9, 2018 Share Posted May 9, 2018 On 4/26/2018 at 4:14 PM, HowboutthemCowboys said: I disagree. I think he's lost a cpl steps and has hands like bricks this is what I saw... the guy is cooked. and most plays he did manage to make he had a defender draped all over him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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