BeeR Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 ESPN in their infinite brilliance has already declared this....apparently having a POS OL shouldn't matter to them. But that said, I haven't seen much of him this year...does he really look that bad, even on those rare occasions when the OL gives him time? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaft Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 It's hard to tell if he's done. The whole Giants organization is a mess! If it wasn't for Barkley (and sometimes OBJ), I would have no motivation to watch them play. The biggest thing I've noticed is that the players just seem so disinterested, including Eli. IMO, the culture in that organization needs to change. I know Coughlin got a lot of slack, but at least he came with passion. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeeR Posted October 12, 2018 Author Share Posted October 12, 2018 OBJ is your classic highly talented/poop for brains. His attitude has and will continue cost the team in ways that don't show up in stats IMO. Barkley obviously is a huge boost; if only they had addressed the OL more than they did, I say they're contenders. But back to Eli... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaft Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 Just now, BeeR said: OBJ is your classic highly talented/poop for brains. His attitude has and will continue cost the team in ways that don't show up in stats IMO. Barkley obviously is a huge boost; if only they had addressed the OL more than they did, I say they're contenders. But back to Eli... Like I was saying, it's hard to tell. Some of his throws have been great, others have been awful, BUT that's always been ELI. He should get traded to Denver for one last push. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMD Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 That should've been a good game for Manning at home against a secondary that has been soft on the road. He just seemed so off almost all night. The O-line has been bad for many years and Manning could still connect with his WRs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soopanuts Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 5 hours ago, BeeR said: OBJ is your classic highly talented/poop for brains. In all seriousness, been a Giants fan a long time. The bad OL play continues. When Eli sin't comfortable back there, game over. That said, even when he's had some time, he's missed more shots that usual downfield and at least appears to prefer the check down game. After getting away from it in Carolina, went right back to it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tripleshot Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 1 hour ago, LordOpie said: What's up with Nate solder? Overrated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tripleshot Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 Eli is who he is. If you give him time he's as good as any starting QB - Good Eli. If he gets pressured, however, he's Bad Eli in most instances. Usually you can tell early which one he is for that game because it's all over once you see the first Eli Manning Face. It's nothing but downhill after that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeeR Posted October 12, 2018 Author Share Posted October 12, 2018 (edited) Not really. Some QBs aren't that great even when they have time. Again I haven't seen much of him this year, but I seriously question whether he's suddenly "done" because he stunk it up on one prime time game behind an OL made of paper mache. He might be, but IMO it's more likely that it's just ESPN and the other talking heads once again just latching onto something for "click bait." Edited October 12, 2018 by BeeR 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYpkBLUE22 Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 3 hours ago, Tripleshot said: Eli is who he is. If you give him time he's as good as any starting QB - Good Eli. If he gets pressured, however, he's Bad Eli in most instances. Usually you can tell early which one he is for that game because it's all over once you see the first Eli Manning Face. It's nothing but downhill after that. As a Giants fan I can agree. There’s a few levels to the Manning face but there’s a particular one that just holds no hope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dope man Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 Eli should have been done 3 years ago...he has tarnished his legend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boltnlava Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 1 hour ago, NYpkBLUE22 said: As a Giants fan I can agree. There’s a few levels to the Manning face but there’s a particular one that just holds no hope. My favorite Manning face is the Eeyore. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrab Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 10 hours ago, boltnlava said: My favorite Manning face is the Eeyore. We saw it after the Eagles converted a turnover into a TD, priceless Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrockStaysHigh Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 He's done. Doesn't attempt any passes down field and when he does its a forced pass to his scrub back up TE that gets picked. At one point one of the announcers said the Giants were now 0-15 on 3rd down attempts and the other announcer said "don't think I've ever seen that or ever even heard of that happening." Eli goes drives where all he does is check it down to saquon. Not this game vs the Eagles but the previous one vs Carolina you could read pat shurmurs lips saying "throw the ball, throw the ball" as Eli proceeds to check it down on 3rd down n not get even close to converting it. He is done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty Sanchez Posted October 14, 2018 Share Posted October 14, 2018 The change at OL helped a little against Carolina and Eli was effective. But Philly's DL is a different animal and they shredded the Giants OL all game. He had no time to throw and they were triple covering OBJ, so the only safe throws he had were the checkdown and short slant routes. Eli is not a mobile QB, so with an OL not giving him any time, he's pretty much done. I don't see them benching him in what will most likely be his final year with the team. But I wouldn't doubt he gets injured this year and we see a QB change that way. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soopanuts Posted October 15, 2018 Share Posted October 15, 2018 If (when) the get eliminated they HAVE to put Lauletta in and see what they have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeeR Posted October 16, 2018 Author Share Posted October 16, 2018 (edited) Yeah I get he's in his twilight but not convinced he's "done." Kind of hard to go downfield when your OL is giving you about a half-second to do so and your best WR (more or less your only WR) is constantly blanketed. I'd be dumping to Barkley all day too. Edited October 16, 2018 by BeeR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrab Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 1 hour ago, BeeR said: Yeah I get he's in his twilight but not convinced he's "done." Kind of hard to go downfield when your OL is giving you about a half-second to do so and your best WR (more or less your only WR) is constantly blanketed. I'd be dumping to Barkley all day too. Especially when Barkley gashes the D for 10-20 yards a pop once he has the ball. I read the Giants owner was asked if they need to make a change and deferred to the coaches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanTheMan_5 Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 He’s just terrible. Boring team to watch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaft Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 3 minutes ago, DanTheMan_5 said: He’s just terrible. Boring team to watch. Agreed! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League_Champion Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 He's not done but close. But you can't expect anyone to play behind that O-Line. Nate Solder and Hernandez have been pathetic. The GM (Gettleman) has really misread their talent. Now they are in full rebuild mode without a future franchise QB. If knowing they were this bad they should have taken Darnold at 2. Bad upper management in my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMD Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 It is sort of weird to me. Barkley and Beckham have both been great fantasy plays almost every week but the rest of that offense does nothing. Imagine what Barkley would be like behind the Cowboys or Saints O-line. Heck, behind just an average offensive line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League_Champion Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 23 minutes ago, DMD said: It is sort of weird to me. Barkley and Beckham have both been great fantasy plays almost every week but the rest of that offense does nothing. Imagine what Barkley would be like behind the Cowboys or Saints O-line. Heck, behind just an average offensive line. The fact that Eli can't move anymore doesn't help. He's a sitting duck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaft Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 26 minutes ago, League_Champion said: The fact that Eli can't move anymore doesn't help. He's a sitting duck Fixed because Eli could NEVER move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League_Champion Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 1 hour ago, LordOpie said: If Eli and a pregnant woman got into a foot race, he'd finish 3rd. Haha, funny and true! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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