League_Champion Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 Wow, they could have done much better for a first rounder. That's way too much for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darin3 Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 Gonna hold out hope here. He's dropped some passes in his day but remains one of the better route runners in the league. If Dak has made the pretty average Cole Beasley into a startable WR in PPR formats, I'm gonna hope that this move means Cooper finally realizes his value. Full disclosure, I own Cooper in a league and hoping for the best. Won't be shocked if he languishes away though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Brown Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 3 hours ago, Profound said: This should be even more reason to cut Cooper. He goes from Carr to Dak......no thank you Not sure Dak is a downgrade. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doobwaa Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 am I the only one who thinks that when Jerry called on the price for Cooper that Gruden just fired off " yeah, gimme a first rounder and he's yours" while at happy hour ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gilthorp Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 Clap away Coach Garrett. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddahj Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 (edited) gruden is collecting 1st round picks like... Edited October 23, 2018 by buddahj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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stevegrab Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 21 hours ago, DMD said: a FIRST ROUND PICK?????????????????? Four of his last six games were under 20 yards. FIRST ROUND? Have a cigarette, Jon. Man that is ridiculous. 30 targets in 6 games, how much do you expect him to be doing with low numbers like that? I agree DAL overpaid, 1st is too much. But he could help the Cowboys be competitive and it won't be hard to win that division and go the playoffs. Cooper was Pro Bowl his first 2 years, something like 90-1000-5 each season. Then fell off last year, when the Raiders started to stink. He's got 10 games with the Cowboys, I think he can produce in that time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Finn5033 Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 Well I think it’s safe to say Cooper was worth the 1st rd pick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irish Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 5 minutes ago, Finn5033 said: Well I think it’s safe to say Cooper was worth the 1st rd pick Yup, still hated giving it up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League_Champion Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 Cooper is a beast Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolverines Fan Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 On 10/22/2018 at 3:16 PM, DMD said: This says it all about my playoff teams. :sadtrombone: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMD Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 What strikes me now is - How bad are the Raiders? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Brown Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 I thought Amari had a shot at being the #1 WR this year. Somehow, Gruden made him worse than the previous years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolverines Fan Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 Guys like Amari Cooper and Eric Ebron just needed a fresh start someplace else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whomper Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 He is making a below average passer like Dak look good. If we sign Dak to a fat long term contract, we will never get to the next level , i dont care if our D turns in to the 85 Bears Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irish Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 34 minutes ago, whomper said: He is making a below average passer like Dak look good. If we sign Dak to a fat long term contract, we will never get to the next level , i dont care if our D turns in to the 85 Bears Dak made some unbelievably terrible throws yesterday. He just cannot throw a consistent, accurate, long ball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League_Champion Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 Just now, irish said: Dak made some unbelievably terrible throws yesterday. He just cannot throw a consistent, accurate, long ball. He was also up against the Eagles practice squad Cornerbacks. Not one starter was on the field all night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whomper Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 43 minutes ago, irish said: Dak made some unbelievably terrible throws yesterday. He just cannot throw a consistent, accurate, long ball. I have said it before and Ill say it again. Big heart, great character , not and NFL caliber passer . He has missed Gallup 2 weeks in a row on what should have been an easy in stride bomb for a TD . Floating terrible passes over wide open receivers . Anything over 10 yards is a crapshoot . I love the direction the Cowboys are headed in. they are the 3rd youngest team in the NFL. They have a fast swarming D and if that whole O line is intact , that running game hums . I just don't think Dak is the guy. I don't care what his record is since he has taken over. He is smoke and mirrors . They should take the east and it will be good to get some playoff experience with this young group. They have a punchers chance in the playoffs but I don't think they have the O to make a splash. Hopefully I am wrong and I would certainly be pleasantly surprised . Either way , we are finally heading in the right direction Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tripleshot Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 If Dak can make Cooper a WR1, what was Carr/Oakland/Gruden's problem? (Man crush on Jared Cook and Seth "Bad Hands" Roberts?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrab Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 51 minutes ago, Tripleshot said: If Dak can make Cooper a WR1, what was Carr/Oakland/Gruden's problem? (Man crush on Jared Cook and Seth "Bad Hands" Roberts?) They don't have the Cowboys OL or Zeke, and no real running game now, making defense of the pass so much easier. BTW Amari Cooper had 2 very good seasons (1070, 1153 rec yds) in OAK to start his career, with Carr (but not Gruden). He had a down year in 2017, then a really bad start to this season. He had 32 targets (22rec) in 6 games in OAK, so far he has 53 targets (40rec) in 6 games in Dallas. He's getting nearly twice the number of looks per game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tripleshot Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 (edited) On 12/10/2018 at 10:57 AM, stevegrab said: They don't have the Cowboys OL or Zeke, and no real running game now, making defense of the pass so much easier. That's a good point. The Raiders' o-line is dreadful this seaon and Carr has no time to throw, much less progress through reads or let plays develop. And there's no Raiders rush offense to respect. Still, it seemed like Carr didn't even look Cooper's way earlier this season. Still, it's not like there's a legitimate receiving threat opposite Cooper to prevent double teams, unless a safety is always being used to spy Zeke. You can put some of this on Cooper, too. I read comments he made about the trade opening his eyes. So being rejuvenated or woken up, either way some of his lack of production in Oakland can be put on him. Edited December 11, 2018 by Tripleshot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darin3 Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 10 minutes ago, Tripleshot said: That's a good point. The Raiders' o-line is dreadful this seaon and Carr has no time to throw, much less progress through reads or let plays develop. And there's no Raiders rush offense to respect. Still, it seemed like Carr didn't even look Cooper's way earlier this season. Still, it's not like there's a legitimate receiving threat opposite Cooper to prevent double teams, unless a safety is always being used to spy Zeke. You can put some of this on Cooper, too. I read comments he made about the trade opening his eyes. So being rejuvenated or woken up, either way some of his lack of production in Oakland can be put on him. It boils down to a fairly simple equation: Actual threat of a run game + above average route runner = better production 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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