Papa Deuce Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 On 10/30/2018 at 6:26 PM, Dcat said: Tate won't hurt Jeffery's production at all in fact it will be a boon to Jeffery down field. It's Agholar whose value drops even lower than it already was. Exactly, as both are slot receivers, and Nelson was bad on the outside.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesplante11 Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 (edited) On 10/30/2018 at 9:24 PM, League_Champion said: Tate won't be in the slot, he'll be opposite Jeffrey. Matthews will get cut. Especially when Wallace comes back. 70% of Tate's snaps come with him lined up in the slot.... https://www.playerprofiler.com/nfl/golden-tate/ Edited November 1, 2018 by jamesplante11 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League_Champion Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 1 hour ago, jamesplante11 said: 70% of Tate's snaps come with him lined up in the slot.... https://www.playerprofiler.com/nfl/golden-tate/ He'll be in the slot at times but Dougy P said he'll be lined up opposite Alshon with Aghalor back in the slot. Nonetheless he should be very productive in that scheme. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gourdeau Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 5 minutes ago, League_Champion said: He'll be in the slot at times but Dougy P said he'll be lined up opposite Alshon with Aghalor back in the slot. Nonetheless he should be very productive in that scheme. I've owned him in 1 dynasty for years, he's rarely ever on the outside and when he is he's rarely targeted. Dougy P would be wise to re-think his plans Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League_Champion Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 Just now, Gourdeau said: I've owned him in 1 dynasty for years, he's rarely ever on the outside and when he is he's rarely targeted. Dougy P would be wise to re-think his plans Dougy P isn't exactly the sharpest tool in the shed at times. If it's against the grain he'll do it. I agree with you but they still need a deep threat. Aghalor was at his best in the slot. Who's outside with Alshon? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gourdeau Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 Well I'f I'm paying a 3rd round pick for Tate, I'm using him where he is best, Nelson is probably better outside than Tate, he's much bigger, vice versa, Tate is far and away better than Nelson in the slot role, so until Wallace returns I'd Keep Nelson outside, once wallace returns, move him out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League_Champion Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 3 hours ago, Gourdeau said: Well I'f I'm paying a 3rd round pick for Tate, I'm using him where he is best, Nelson is probably better outside than Tate, he's much bigger, vice versa, Tate is far and away better than Nelson in the slot role, so until Wallace returns I'd Keep Nelson outside, once wallace returns, move him out I agree. Aghalor would be the odd man out. He hasn't been productive at all on the outside. When in the slot he's been very good. If Wallace comes back healthy his speed will be huge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaelredd9 Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 Tate might have a negative effect on Ertz. Tight ends and slot receivers run a lot of the same routes and occupy the same part of field. A not insignificant amount of Ertz's short passing game targets could get diverted Tate's way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League_Champion Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 2 hours ago, michaelredd9 said: Tate might have a negative effect on Ertz. Tight ends and slot receivers run a lot of the same routes and occupy the same part of field. A not insignificant amount of Ertz's short passing game targets could get diverted Tate's way. Ertz and Wentz are Boys on & off the field. Ertz will always get his. I think it will be Tate running free with Alshon getting 1 on 1 coverage finally. That's a lot of toys for Wentz. And when they go to 2 tight end sets who's gonna match up with Goedert, nobody. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gourdeau Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 Well I think it's pretty clear that Jeffrey has been Tainted... 5 or less targets , no tds and no more than 50 yards since Tate arrived 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrab Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 I enjoy crunching numbers, and have time with being out of the playoffs.... Tate 4 games, 27 targets, 18rec, 182yds, 1TD Jeffrey and other receivers (omiitted RBs) over those 4 games (T-target, R-rec, Y-yards) Jeffrey 21T, 14R, 151Y, 0TD Agholor 18T, 10R, 151Y, 0TD Ertz 37T, 32R, 334Y, 3TD Matthews 10T, 7R, 56Y, 1TD Goedert 10T, 3R, 33Y, 0TD Seems he is the #2 option behind Ertz, Agholor's target/rec numbers are lower than Jeffrey over those 4 games, but Agholor is better over the season, probably due to playing 3 more games than Jeffery. Tate has more targets and receptions in 4 games than Jordan Matthews does in 10. Ertz has 121 targets in 12 games, 94 in the first 8, so his targets are down a bit (almost 12 per game vs. bit over 9 per game, down about 2.5 targets/game). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League_Champion Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 19 hours ago, stevegrab said: I enjoy crunching numbers, and have time with being out of the playoffs.... Tate 4 games, 27 targets, 18rec, 182yds, 1TD Jeffrey and other receivers (omiitted RBs) over those 4 games (T-target, R-rec, Y-yards) Jeffrey 21T, 14R, 151Y, 0TD Agholor 18T, 10R, 151Y, 0TD Ertz 37T, 32R, 334Y, 3TD Matthews 10T, 7R, 56Y, 1TD Goedert 10T, 3R, 33Y, 0TD Seems he is the #2 option behind Ertz, Agholor's target/rec numbers are lower than Jeffrey over those 4 games, but Agholor is better over the season, probably due to playing 3 more games than Jeffery. Tate has more targets and receptions in 4 games than Jordan Matthews does in 10. Ertz has 121 targets in 12 games, 94 in the first 8, so his targets are down a bit (almost 12 per game vs. bit over 9 per game, down about 2.5 targets/game). Good stuff, thanks. I think you'll see those numbers start to level off now that Tate is more familiar with the offense and is assuming a bigger role. Wentz finally spread the ball around this week pretty nicely. Prior to that it was all Ertz and Jeffrey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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