Bobby Brown Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Shorttynaz said: You said leading a franchise. You never said leading your team in the postseason. Seattle has also had a defense capable of controlling a game. Withvthe exception of last year, Seattle has also had a better O-line as well. My bad. I assumed postseason success was a key attribute in leading a franchise. And Seattle's o line was quite bad in pass protection, even in the SB years. PFF ranked the SEA o line 19th in PP last year; their best in Wilson's career. Edited August 25, 2019 by Bobby Brown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Bobby Brown Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 3 hours ago, MikesVikes said: If if I didn’t have any Luck I would indeed have luck after all. This wins best post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XFlash Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 12 minutes ago, MikesVikes said: So I Googled Andrew Luck Amish. Sigh. https://medium.com/amp/p/3fe603c6481e Wow, the truth comes out. How is it that Amish Elders are watching games on TV? Animal powered generators on a CRT tube TV someone left by the side of the road? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shorttynaz Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 4 minutes ago, Bobby Brown said: I assumed postseason success was a key attribute in leading a franchise. So... With that in mind, the likes of Trent Dilfer, Brad Johnson, Joe Flacco & Nick Foles are better than Dan Marino and Jim Kelly. Hell, I'd rather have Phillip Rivers leading my team over any of those successful postseason QBs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League_Champion Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Shorttynaz said: So... With that in mind, the likes of Trent Dilfer, Brad Johnson, Joe Flacco & Nick Foles are better than Dan Marino and Jim Kelly. Hell, I'd rather have Phillip Rivers leading my team over any of those successful postseason QBs. With all due respect Wilson is a winner. You can't put him in the same breath as those stiffs. He's carried that franchise for years and he still plays at a high level today. Luck is out of the league. Edited August 25, 2019 by League_Champion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shorttynaz Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 8 minutes ago, League_Champion said: With all due respect Wilson is a winner. You can't put him in the same breath as those stiffs. He's carried that franchise for years and he still plays at a high level today. Luck is out of the league. I was just basing it off of postseason success, as BB said in a follow-up that was his key attribute. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shorttynaz Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 1 hour ago, TrevorThinksHeKnowsFantasy said: I have to say this to whoever drafted the man.. thats bad “luck” I unmuted you, and this is the first post of yours I see. I need to stop going against my better judgment. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League_Champion Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 3 minutes ago, Shorttynaz said: I was just basing it off of postseason success, as BB said in a follow-up that was his key attribute. I hear ya. It just seems like a bad comparison to me. Not fair to either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Brown Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 14 minutes ago, Shorttynaz said: Trent Dilfer Trent Dilfer actually managed to throw as many TDs as INTs in the postseason. A metric that Luck will never equal. Maybe the Colts should trade for RG3. He didn't have much postseason success either. But his short career as a starting QB during the regular season was still pretty stellar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purplemonster Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 (edited) Probably difficult to compare. They're pretty different players. At his peak Russell Wilson was basically untackleable. He didn't even need a good line because he could just juke around and he'd never take a clean hit. Luck is not that kind of athlete and he's tough so he absorbed hits. I think Russell Wilson is just far better equipped to deal with a crappy Oline. Both are awesome quarterbacks though. With a good team Luck could have been pretty tough he never really had that good of a team. Edited August 25, 2019 by purplemonster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shorttynaz Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 8 minutes ago, Bobby Brown said: Maybe the Colts should trade for RG3. I respectfully disagree. I don't see Chris Ballard giving up much of anything in regards to trading for a QB. Jacoby Brissett is serviceable enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League_Champion Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 You can't question Luck's talent but I will question his heart. Perhaps that's the difference between he & Wilson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purplemonster Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 (edited) 21 minutes ago, League_Champion said: You can't question Luck's talent but I will question his heart. Perhaps that's the difference between he & Wilson. Well I mean all things being equal. I would take peak Wilson. Basically no other quarterback has moved like Wilson could except for Vick. And he's a pretty good thrower too. I doubt Wilson has taken the kind of hits luck has just due to his superior athleticism. And you can't argue with the results. Won a Super Bowl and should have had a second if his coach hadn't made a bonehead call Edited August 25, 2019 by purplemonster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Brown Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 1 hour ago, Shorttynaz said: I respectfully disagree. I don't see Chris Ballard giving up much of anything in regards to trading for a QB. Jacoby Brissett is serviceable enough. I was just being a titty twister. It sucks to see Luck leave early. Jake Locker lives in my hometown and left the gane early. He's QB coach at my son's high school. Super solid guy, gave a lead in speech on basketball AAU warning parents about not living their life through kids sporting success in high school. And how he's happier now than playing in the NFL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Ramhock Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 Andrew, ty vm for the entertainment you provided me. Very best of luck to you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaft Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 Luck did his job, he didn't screw the Colts. Best to you Andrew for preserving your mental and physical health. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gourdeau Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 26 minutes ago, Shaft said: Luck did his job, he didn't screw the Colts. Best to you Andrew for preserving your mental and physical health. If anything they screwed him by consistently failing to provide him with even a moderately competent offensive line for protection 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaft Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 4 minutes ago, Gourdeau said: If anything they screwed him by consistently failing to provide him with even a moderately competent offensive line for protection Agreed and there has also been rumblings about their poor athletic training/medical staff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrevorThinksHeKnowsFantasy Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 7 hours ago, Shorttynaz said: I unmuted you, and this is the first post of yours I see. I need to stop going against my better judgment. I will leave you alone this year. I’m taking life more serious these days. I’m a serious man. A man a much serious. I have decided to spare you because I am serious, and mature, and seriously mature. Love you 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League_Champion Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 2 hours ago, TrevorThinksHeKnowsFantasy said: I will leave you alone this year. I’m taking life more serious these days. I’m a serious man. A man a much serious. I have decided to spare you because I am serious, and mature, and seriously mature. Love you He's a strange dude Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrevorThinksHeKnowsFantasy Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 14 minutes ago, League_Champion said: He's a strange dude Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League_Champion Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 1 minute ago, TrevorThinksHeKnowsFantasy said: Hehe. I don't know why but I can't take him serious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaft Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 16 minutes ago, League_Champion said: He's a strange dude Most people on here are strange. Just a forum full of weirdos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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