League_Champion Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 1 minute ago, Shaft said: Most people on here are strange. Just a forum full of weirdos. We all are. Thank God there's not a camera in my face 24/7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gourdeau Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 Well for once, the Colts did something right. Not recouping any of the $24.8 mil Luck owes them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League_Champion Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 He did the right thing. It's just the timing that baffles me. If he knew he was retiring then why was he even there? Why wait till Sunday? The players had no idea either. He could have announced it pre-game to his teammates then issued a statement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMD Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 Agreed - the oddest timing I have ever seen on a retirement Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaft Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 37 minutes ago, League_Champion said: He did the right thing. It's just the timing that baffles me. If he knew he was retiring then why was he even there? Why wait till Sunday? The players had no idea either. He could have announced it pre-game to his teammates then issued a statement. 15 minutes ago, DMD said: Agreed - the oddest timing I have ever seen on a retirement Well, he's not the only one https://www.profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/08/24/report-paul-worrilow-retires-day-after-signing-with-ravens/amp/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League_Champion Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 9 minutes ago, LordOpie said: partly to be able to hold his contract rights. If he came back next year healthy and motivated, he could have 10 years, assuming they fix the OL. That's worth the $25mil Very good point. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gourdeau Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 3 hours ago, LordOpie said: partly to be able to hold his contract rights. If he came back next year healthy and motivated, he could have 10 years, assuming they fix the OL. That's worth the $25mil I for one don't believe he's 100% ruled out a return. I think he's frustrated with his inability to fully recovery and the constant pressures from the team and the media that surround that lack of recovery. By retiring he can quiet the noise and focus on his health without rushing or at least thinking he has to rush it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League_Champion Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 2 minutes ago, Gourdeau said: I for one don't believe he's 100% ruled out a return. I think he's frustrated with his inability to fully recovery and the constant pressures from the team and the media that surround that lack of recovery. By retiring he can quiet the noise and focus on his health without rushing or at least thinking he has to rush it. I feel that as well. I think this is a hiatus rather than a retirement. The way it went down doesn't feel right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XFlash Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 46 minutes ago, Gourdeau said: I for one don't believe he's 100% ruled out a return. I think he's frustrated with his inability to fully recovery and the constant pressures from the team and the media that surround that lack of recovery. By retiring he can quiet the noise and focus on his health without rushing or at least thinking he has to rush it. I agree with this. He will have the time to get mentally and physically back on par. Not many lifetime football players can totally give up playing or the wanting to play. A few have done it, but many have not and are still trying to get back in the game past their prime ages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League_Champion Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 3 minutes ago, LordOpie said: i plan on buying low on Luck later in the season or next off-season or picking him up when/if someone drops him. Not a bad idea. The panic should be kicking in soon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purplemonster Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 (edited) Maybe, but it seems guys who have taken a lot of physical punishment, particularly an educated wealthy guy like Luck may sit around and ponder CTE and the grind and decide maybe it's not worth it. I don't know, maybe I am wrong and he relaxes this year and decides he wants to give it another shot. Maybe thy talk to him and say they will invest in OL and try to get him to come back. Can they try to recoup $$ if he doesn't come back next year? That's a lot to leave to a player as a goodwill gesture. Edit: nevermind they reached a settlement last week, so it's a done deal $$ wise. Edited August 25, 2019 by purplemonster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitpdub Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 45 minutes ago, XFlash said: I agree with this. He will have the time to get mentally and physically back on par. Not many lifetime football players can totally give up playing or the wanting to play. A few have done it, but many have not and are still trying to get back in the game past their prime ages. I remember many people saying the same thing about Barry Sanders. Great player on a horrible team, hoping he would come back and play somewhere else. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaft Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 4 minutes ago, mitpdub said: I remember many people saying the same thing about Barry Sanders. Great player on a horrible team, hoping he would come back and play somewhere else. Yup! Jim Brown Otto Graham Barry Sanders Rob Smith While rare, it has happened before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League_Champion Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 Eli Manning to the Colts? Would be interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League_Champion Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 2 minutes ago, LordOpie said: but why? What if Brissett is actually a good QB? Eli wouldn't change teams just to be a back up. I'm not saying it's ever gonna happen but it would be interesting. And no Brissett is not good. He's serviceable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMD Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 32 minutes ago, LordOpie said: but why? What if Brissett is actually a good QB? Eli wouldn't change teams just to be a back up. He already started all of 2017 and threw for 3098 yards and 13 TDs. Luck threw for 4593 yards and 39 TDs with pretty much the same team the next year. Brissett has already proven to be back-up quality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League_Champion Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 Just now, LordOpie said: so you'd rather have Eli than Brisset? Who said that? Do you have ADD? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaft Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 7 hours ago, LordOpie said: partly to be able to hold his contract rights. If he came back next year healthy and motivated, he could have 10 years, assuming they fix the OL. That's worth the $25mil https://www.yahoo.com/sports/andrew-luck-retirement-return-unretire-jim-irsay-042628991.html 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shorttynaz Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 4 hours ago, League_Champion said: I'm not saying it's ever gonna happen but it would be interesting. And no Brissett is not good. He's serviceable. Based on what?? He's young, mobile, and knows the offense. This time he actually has one of the best O-lines in the league 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League_Champion Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 7 hours ago, Shorttynaz said: Based on what?? He's young, mobile, and knows the offense. This time he actually has one of the best O-lines in the league Based on what I've seen in previous years but I'm willing to give him a chance. Good O-line, no excuses, prove it. I'm certainly not drafting him anytime soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Dick Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 20 hours ago, Gourdeau said: I for one don't believe he's 100% ruled out a return. I think he's frustrated with his inability to fully recovery and the constant pressures from the team and the media that surround that lack of recovery. By retiring he can quiet the noise and focus on his health without rushing or at least thinking he has to rush it. Man, I don't know. That dude looked broken to me at the press conference. Like mentally broken and done. I don't think he comes back. You can't come back from that. Especially leaving the locker room two weeks before the season. He's smart enough to know that an ending like that is a true ending. He's done. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shorttynaz Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 1 hour ago, Chief Dick said: Man, I don't know. That dude looked broken to me at the press conference. Like mentally broken and done. I don't think he comes back. You can't come back from that. Especially leaving the locker room two weeks before the season. He's smart enough to know that an ending like that is a true ending. He's done. As much as I don't want it to be true, I agree with you. If he had any desire to come back, he would have done this earlier. I read somewhere this morning, someone asked him if he will unretire in the future? He said he cannot see the future but his firm stance right now is he's done. Permanently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrab Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 (edited) 21 hours ago, DMD said: He already started all of 2017 and threw for 3098 yards and 13 TDs. Luck threw for 4593 yards and 39 TDs with pretty much the same team the next year. Brissett has already proven to be back-up quality. Brissett took 52 sacks, most in the NFL in 2017, Luck took 18 sacks in 2018, after over 40 in 2016. I'd suspect the line was better last year, or some other aspect of their offense took some pressure off Luck. Not sure you can say they were the same team, you don't cut sacks down that quickly (team totals of 44, 56, 18 in last 3 seasons) with the same team. By no means am I saying Brissett is anywhere close to Luck, or an elite or top 10-15 starter, but he's more than some backup caliber guy. Edited August 26, 2019 by stevegrab 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gourdeau Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 2 hours ago, Shorttynaz said: As much as I don't want it to be true, I agree with you. If he had any desire to come back, he would have done this earlier. I read somewhere this morning, someone asked him if he will unretire in the future? He said he cannot see the future but his firm stance right now is he's done. Permanently. His college coach was guest on "The Herd" this morning. Coach said Andrew does not do anything half heartedly and he isn't coming back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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