Panchosoad Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 In my league a trade was accepted Lamar Jackson for Mark Andrews. I suspect collusion since the one trading Jackson is bottom of the league and the one receiving Jackson has a better record and is his brother. How votes does a yahoo league need for it to be vetoed? If it goes through, is their anything I could do about it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcolabove Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 Whats wrong with the trade? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shorttynaz Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 That is no where close to collusion! Come on, man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purplemonster Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 TE landscape is a wasteland. Depending on who he has at QB behind Lamar or what the other guy has or doesn't have for TE it may not be that crazy a trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League_Champion Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 Andrews is a legit TE1. That's not veto worthy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scourge Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 It’s nice to see after all these years that people still think vetoing trades like this is an acceptable practice. Some things never change I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 The "fairness" of a trade depends on the needs of both parties to the transaction. If one team has a serious need at a position while the other has excess, that can lead to trades that, on the surface, might at 1st look seem one-sided, but in reality services the needs of both teams. People are waaaaaaaay too "veto-happy". In the leagues I run, I call the shots on all trade disputes. No immature voting from jealous teams. In the 18 years I have been running 3 competitive keeper leagues, I think I have overturned maybe 2 trades, perhaps 3. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Def. Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrab Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 4 hours ago, Scourge said: It’s nice to see after all these years that people still think vetoing trades like this is an acceptable practice. Some things never change I guess. Worse yet they play in leagues that allow owners to vote to veto a trade. And people think that is a good way to structure a league, or its just some free league stuff on Yahoo with some default rules (free leagues suck). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stethant Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 No veto no cry. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slambo Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 I advises yuh to worry about your own team, vetos are for whiners. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League_Champion Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 I was in a Military money league a few years ago where 2 buddies were obviously colluding. They each drafted a team and tried to create a super team through terrible trades to each other. None of which were vetoed. They didn't win the league and we disolved it the following year. This is an example of why you need some sort of veto power. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrab Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 38 minutes ago, League_Champion said: I was in a Military money league a few years ago where 2 buddies were obviously colluding. They each drafted a team and tried to create a super team through terrible trades to each other. None of which were vetoed. They didn't win the league and we disolved it the following year. This is an example of why you need some sort of veto power. Commissioners have veto power, me and my commish can if we like decline to approve a trade. Talk to the owners involved, get the views of other owners and prevent such manurety behavior. In 25+ years we've never had to do that. And we've rarely had any issue to even consider it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gourdeau Posted October 11, 2019 Share Posted October 11, 2019 1 hour ago, stevegrab said: Commissioners have veto power, me and my commish can if we like decline to approve a trade. Talk to the owners involved, get the views of other owners and prevent such manurety behavior. In 25+ years we've never had to do that. And we've rarely had any issue to even consider it. Did trade talks happen by phone 25 years ago? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League_Champion Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 1 hour ago, Gourdeau said: Did trade talks happen by phone 25 years ago? They had beepers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loaf Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 2 hours ago, Gourdeau said: Did trade talks happen by phone 25 years ago? They did. And manual scoring... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League_Champion Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 9 minutes ago, LordOpie said: carrier pigeon, which was an upgrade from smoke signals It took like a month for a trade to get approved Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbotooslow Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 This is a fair trade and even if it wasn't...only clear and obvious collusion can be vetoed. We called some owners out for their horrible drafts and they proceeded to make trades like Aaron Rodgers (that team took 5 QBs in the draft) for Leonard Fournette. We vetoed the trades and kicked them out immediately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purplemonster Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 3 hours ago, League_Champion said: It took like a month for a trade to get approved Trade requests arrived by boat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gourdeau Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 10 hours ago, loaf said: They did. And manual scoring... Pretty cool ! Were trades as frequent back then as they are now? Gotta think texting and trade offers through the apps have made trading less of a chore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 (edited) 20 hours ago, League_Champion said: I was in a Military money league a few years ago where 2 buddies were obviously colluding. They each drafted a team and tried to create a super team through terrible trades to each other. None of which were vetoed. They didn't win the league and we disolved it the following year. This is an example of why you need some sort of veto power. It's also an example of why you need a strong-willed, fair commish to make the decision. No voting. My league by-laws only allow a vote when it is the commish's trade that is being questioned (which actually happened once, but I easily won the vote). Otherwise, trade rejection is solely in the province of the commish. Edited October 12, 2019 by Dcat 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrab Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 On 10/11/2019 at 8:59 PM, loaf said: They did. And manual scoring... Back then over half our league worked together and the rest played poker with my co-commish who was one in our office. Plenty of chance to talk and work on trades. We also had email. Trades are probably more common and quicker now but still among only about half the teams, some rarely trade. And yes we did manual scoring in the old days,it was what I did during MNF each week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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