League_Champion Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 Saints vs. Colts spread: New Orleans -9. Saints vs. Colts over-under: 48 points. Saints vs. Colts money line: New Orleans -429, Indianapolis +330. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League_Champion Posted December 17, 2019 Author Share Posted December 17, 2019 I'd like to see Kamara bounce back if anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League_Champion Posted December 17, 2019 Author Share Posted December 17, 2019 Why do they keep taking Hilton out on passing downs?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn5033 Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 23 minutes ago, League_Champion said: I'd like to see Kamara bounce back if anything. This please. I need it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League_Champion Posted December 17, 2019 Author Share Posted December 17, 2019 3 minutes ago, Finn5033 said: This please. I need it I didn't realize that he hasn't scored a TD since week 3. How is that possible? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn5033 Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 1 minute ago, League_Champion said: I didn't realize that he hasn't scored a TD since week 3. How is that possible? Exactly. The weird thing is Murray has looked like the better back this year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League_Champion Posted December 17, 2019 Author Share Posted December 17, 2019 5 minutes ago, Finn5033 said: Exactly. The weird thing is Murray has looked like the better back this year No doubt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Storm Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 Why isn’t anyone mentioning Thomas in mvp category this season? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League_Champion Posted December 17, 2019 Author Share Posted December 17, 2019 Just now, Red Storm said: Why isn’t anyone mentioning Thomas in mvp category this season? That's a fair question. I guess because Lamar is the unquestionable front runner right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phat Rugby Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 This would be a good time to sit Thomas and rest him. This game is well in hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montana is da Man Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 Here comes the record Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montana is da Man Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 Nice!! They'll get to celebrate twice! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddahj Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 I need one more catch from Thomas to advance to the championship Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaft Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 52 minutes ago, Red Storm said: Why isn’t anyone mentioning Thomas in mvp category this season? He has been mentioned, but Lamar has just blown all the competition away. But I agree, he should be talked about more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LosGatosEnFuegos Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 I'd basically given up hope in one league, but if Brees & Kamara can duplicate their combined first half, I'll pull off a pretty huge comeback. Hopefully Indy's offense shows up in the 2nd half so NO need to keep their foot on the gas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montana is da Man Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 29 completions on 30 attempts......that's ridiculously impressive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrab Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 13 hours ago, League_Champion said: Why do they keep taking Hilton out on passing downs?? Must be because he's perfectly healthy and absolutely not on a pitch count 12 hours ago, Red Storm said: Why isn’t anyone mentioning Thomas in mvp category this season? Who was the last non QB to win MVP? I cannot remember, it has become the best QB award. 10 hours ago, Montana is da Man said: 29 completions on 30 attempts......that's ridiculously impressive His career completion percentage of 67.6% is off the charts, the last 4 (inc 2019) are 70% or better, he led the league in that stat 2009-11, 2017-19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League_Champion Posted December 17, 2019 Author Share Posted December 17, 2019 4 minutes ago, stevegrab said: Must be because he's perfectly healthy and absolutely not on a pitch count Haha. That's the only logical explanation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montana is da Man Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 3 hours ago, stevegrab said: Who was the last non QB to win MVP? I cannot remember, it has become the best QB award. His career completion percentage of 67.6% is off the charts, the last 4 (inc 2019) are 70% or better, he led the league in that stat 2009-11, 2017-19 Has a wr ever won the mvp? Those % are ridiculous. He needs to be in the top 5 qbs of all time discussion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrab Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 31 minutes ago, Montana is da Man said: Has a wr ever won the mvp? Those % are ridiculous. He needs to be in the top 5 qbs of all time discussion. No argument from me, but these top X lists get rather hard, especially when you say all time. The game has changed a ton over the decades. I hear great QBs like Bart Starr and Otto Graham in discussions but have no clue how good they were. Let alone guys from before the modern era like Sammy Bough or Sid Luckman. Even guys in the Staubach era were ones I'm not as familiar with, as I wasn't watching a ton of football until I was an adult in the 80s. Not even sure who my top 5 would be for say the last 30 years, I start making a list then realize somebody got left off. Just with last 15-20 I'd have Brady Brees, Peyton, Favre and Montana. But I'm leaving out Young, Elway, Marino and others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
League_Champion Posted December 17, 2019 Author Share Posted December 17, 2019 46 minutes ago, stevegrab said: No argument from me, but these top X lists get rather hard, especially when you say all time. The game has changed a ton over the decades. I hear great QBs like Bart Starr and Otto Graham in discussions but have no clue how good they were. Let alone guys from before the modern era like Sammy Bough or Sid Luckman. Even guys in the Staubach era were ones I'm not as familiar with, as I wasn't watching a ton of football until I was an adult in the 80s. Not even sure who my top 5 would be for say the last 30 years, I start making a list then realize somebody got left off. Just with last 15-20 I'd have Brady Brees, Peyton, Favre and Montana. But I'm leaving out Young, Elway, Marino and others. I love Brees but he's not top 5 for me. He played most of his games indoors and rarely had to play in cold or bad conditions. Say what you want but Tom Brady won a lot of games outdoors in terrible weather. So have the old timers. Sorry Drew. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purplemonster Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, stevegrab said: No argument from me, but these top X lists get rather hard, especially when you say all time. The game has changed a ton over the decades. I hear great QBs like Bart Starr and Otto Graham in discussions but have no clue how good they were. Let alone guys from before the modern era like Sammy Bough or Sid Luckman. Even guys in the Staubach era were ones I'm not as familiar with, as I wasn't watching a ton of football until I was an adult in the 80s. Not even sure who my top 5 would be for say the last 30 years, I start making a list then realize somebody got left off. Just with last 15-20 I'd have Brady Brees, Peyton, Favre and Montana. But I'm leaving out Young, Elway, Marino and others. Yeah it's a good point. I can really only tell you who I think is good or not good, or relative tiers, but as far as all-time greats it's pretty hard comparing different generations. It would be fun if there was a way to directly compare them but even to do that they would all have to start at a young age. It wouldn't be fair to take Sammy Baugh and plop him down in the modern NFL even with a few years. Even Michael Vick may have had a better career had he played today with different systems. Edited December 17, 2019 by purplemonster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rajncajn Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 2 hours ago, League_Champion said: I love Brees but he's not top 5 for me. He played most of his games indoors and rarely had to play in cold or bad conditions. Say what you want but Tom Brady won a lot of games outdoors in terrible weather. So have the old timers. Sorry Drew. https://www.pff.com/news/pro-no-dome-no-worries-drew-brees-is-more-than-just-a-product-of-the-mercedes-benz-superdome 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rajncajn Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 1 hour ago, purplemonster said: Yeah it's a good point. I can really only tell you who I think is good or not good, or relative tiers, but as far as all-time greats it's pretty hard comparing different generations. It would be fun if there was a way to directly compare them but even to do that they would all have to start at a young age. It wouldn't be fair to take Sammy Baugh and plop him down in the modern NFL even with a few years. Even Michael Vick may have had a better career had he played today with different systems. Guys like Brady, Manning, Rodgers and Brees would be all-time greats in any era of football. I don't think you could say the same about many players from the past. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montana is da Man Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 3 hours ago, stevegrab said: No argument from me, but these top X lists get rather hard, especially when you say all time. The game has changed a ton over the decades. I hear great QBs like Bart Starr and Otto Graham in discussions but have no clue how good they were. Let alone guys from before the modern era like Sammy Bough or Sid Luckman. Even guys in the Staubach era were ones I'm not as familiar with, as I wasn't watching a ton of football until I was an adult in the 80s. Not even sure who my top 5 would be for say the last 30 years, I start making a list then realize somebody got left off. Just with last 15-20 I'd have Brady Brees, Peyton, Favre and Montana. But I'm leaving out Young, Elway, Marino and others. It is completely subjective. What is the main determination? Super bowl rings? Playoff wins? Touch downs? Least interceptions? People call Eli an all time great, but outside of those 2 playoff that ended in super bowl MVP's for him, he never won a playoff game. Did he just have two good playoff runs or is he an all time great? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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