Skrappy1 Posted November 28, 2004 Share Posted November 28, 2004 Hmmm....Ladell Betts was in for Portis the whole last drive and now has 6 carries to Portis's 5. Did Portis get hurt or did he just get pulled due to ineffectiveness? Anyone know? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skippy Posted November 28, 2004 Share Posted November 28, 2004 I didn't see him get hurt and they made no mention of him being hurt. I think it was just a change of pace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glabra Posted November 28, 2004 Share Posted November 28, 2004 Portis=Self-promoting, overhyped fraud Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giantsfan Posted November 28, 2004 Share Posted November 28, 2004 And that worked well also. 2 carries -1 yard for Betts. I know this is going to sound crazy but what's up with Gibbs. Betts in at the GL for Portis. And don't tell me Portis isn't a big back, because he did fine in Denver at the GL, and more importantly Betts is a small back also. Just makes no sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Swerski Posted November 28, 2004 Share Posted November 28, 2004 I'll bet that Mike Shanahan's laughing his a$$ off right now. Danny Boy gets duped again! Portis is a good back, but there's no way that he's worth $50.5 million. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giantsfan Posted November 28, 2004 Share Posted November 28, 2004 Betts still in. So either Portis benched or hurt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skippy Posted November 28, 2004 Share Posted November 28, 2004 Betts still in. So either Portis benched or hurt. 579191[/snapback] Portis was back in. He is not hurt. They are just leaning toward Betts at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egret Posted November 28, 2004 Share Posted November 28, 2004 No injury reported, so he must be benched. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackass Posted November 28, 2004 Share Posted November 28, 2004 not hurt. announcers said it was to change the pace. Betts can push the line of scrimmage more. whether or not that's accourate, that's another story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donutrun Jellies Posted November 28, 2004 Share Posted November 28, 2004 I'll bet that Mike Shanahan's laughing his a$$ off right now. Danny Boy gets duped again! Portis is a good back, but there's no way that he's worth $50.5 million. 579189[/snapback] Portis should have been more appreciative of his surroundings in Denver ... he traded being great and rich for being mediocre and a bit richer. Not worth it. Once you get to a certain dollar amount, I just don't see what you do with the rest -- at that point, I'd rather win and play well ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squeegiebo Posted November 28, 2004 Share Posted November 28, 2004 Once you get to a certain dollar amount, I just don't see what you do with the rest 579344[/snapback] Tell that to Bill Gates or the Walton family. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miracleboys2749 Posted November 29, 2004 Share Posted November 29, 2004 Gibbs is CHOOSING to play Betts over Portis??? What an idiot! Gibbs needs to go back to the racetrack, because football has passed him by. I'm still a believer in Portis (no, I don't own him in any of my leagues), so I would think there's got to be a way to get Portis involved more in the gameplan to make him effective. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Red Posted November 29, 2004 Share Posted November 29, 2004 When your team rushes the ball 14 times, can you really call it a change of pace? 8 rushes for Betts, 6 for Portis. I'm going to start sitting Portis. Skins are just too bad right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Swerski Posted November 29, 2004 Share Posted November 29, 2004 (edited) he traded being great and rich for being mediocre and a bit richer. 579344[/snapback] Actually, Portis made A LOT more by signing with Washington. He was a second-round pick and, IIRC, was making significantly less than $1 million/year in Denver. I don't blame Portis for taking the money and running, but the dumbass fantasy owners who drafted him in the first round this year got what they deserved. Edited November 29, 2004 by Bill Swerski Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meat Face Posted November 29, 2004 Share Posted November 29, 2004 Gibbs is CHOOSING to play Betts over Portis??? What an idiot! Gibbs needs to go back to the racetrack, because football has passed him by. I'm still a believer in Portis (no, I don't own him in any of my leagues), so I would think there's got to be a way to get Portis involved more in the gameplan to make him effective. 579557[/snapback] I agree. Gibbs is a much bigger problem than Portis. Sad to say, but Gibbs' time in football is over. He's not the coach he once was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunther Posted November 29, 2004 Share Posted November 29, 2004 (edited) Actually, Portis made A LOT more by signing with Washington. He was a second-round pick and, IIRC, was making significantly less than $1 million/year in Denver. I don't blame Portis for taking the money and running, but the dumbass fantasy owners who drafted him in the first round this year got what they deserved. 579577[/snapback] Hey! I resemble that remark! On further review, I was a dumbass for doing it and you are right (dammit). :bricks: Double dumbass on me for thinking Gibbs would be able to get that running game working. Edited November 29, 2004 by Gunther Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCMB Posted November 29, 2004 Share Posted November 29, 2004 Actually, Portis made A LOT more by signing with Washington. He was a second-round pick and, IIRC, was making significantly less than $1 million/year in Denver. I don't blame Portis for taking the money and running, but the dumbass fantasy owners who drafted him in the first round this year got what they deserved. 579577[/snapback] I'm in first place Dumbass. I don't think Portis' lack of production is his fault - as much as it is injuries to the O-line and Gibbs' inept coaching. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Swerski Posted November 29, 2004 Share Posted November 29, 2004 Double dumbass on me for thinking Gibbs would be able to get that running game working. 579587[/snapback] Triple dumbass on me for drafting Hasselb!tch at 4.02. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XFlash Posted November 29, 2004 Share Posted November 29, 2004 Portis value should be better next season. A Lot depends on how Gibbs/Synder improve the o-line. Defense will be stout once players get healthy from injuries. They need to be a pass the buck (Brunell) to some other team or to the bread line (Bears maybe). Hopefully they can find a better QB or OC to call better plays to the strengths of the players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ursa Majoris Posted November 29, 2004 Share Posted November 29, 2004 It may be that Clinton just isn't very good, the latest in a long line of sub-par RBs made to look great by whatever magic it is that they work in Denver. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NAUgrad Posted November 29, 2004 Share Posted November 29, 2004 Portis value should be better next season. A Lot depends on how Gibbs/Synder improve the o-line. Defense will be stout once players get healthy from injuries. They need to be a pass the buck (Brunell) to some other team or to the bread line (Bears maybe). Hopefully they can find a better QB or OC to call better plays to the strengths of the players. 579659[/snapback] Next year will be very interesting in deed. I agree some changes need to be made, but the best way to continue a to lose is to make too many changes. Especailly on the O-line. Get your right tackle back and maybe add a guard, but let the line gell and Portis could be an entirely diferent player next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giantsfan Posted November 29, 2004 Share Posted November 29, 2004 Next year will be very interesting in deed. I agree some changes need to be made, but the best way to continue a to lose is to make too many changes. Especailly on the O-line. Get your right tackle back and maybe add a guard, but let the line gell and Portis could be an entirely diferent player next year. 579985[/snapback] I would agree. They have Samuels at one T and he's good. They get Jansen back at the other T and he's good. At one G they have Thomas. Which means G and C next year. If they can add 1 good guy at one of those positions, and straighten out the passing game you'd have to think Portis can be back as a top 5 RB or so. I also want to add that while he hasn't done much this year going to Betts is a bad call by Gibbs IMO. Stick with Portis. At least he has HR ability on every play, and that O needs that BADLY. I see no positive that can come from playing Betts. We know he isn't good or the answer, so why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jrick35 Posted November 29, 2004 Share Posted November 29, 2004 Portis should have been more appreciative of his surroundings in Denver ... he traded being great and rich for being mediocre and a bit richer. Not worth it. Once you get to a certain dollar amount, I just don't see what you do with the rest -- at that point, I'd rather win and play well ... 579344[/snapback] I think you guys are being a little unfair to Portis aren't you? He was traded to Washington for Bailey. He didn't leave as a Free Agent. As fas as being worth the money I have a hard time believing any of them are worth the money. But even with Portis' awful game yesterday he is still on pace to go well over 1300 rushing yds this year. As for his lack of TD's, that's inherent to the entire Offense. I'll be looking forward to next year to see what develops, Mort was saying on ESPN yesterday that Gibbs Diabetic condition may force him into an office job with the Skins next year. Which would mean a new coach, yet again. With some improvement on the O-line and a QB, Portis could be right back to 1500 rushing yds and 10-12 TD's next year. That could make him a sleeper next year, if someone with nearly 4500 yds rushing in 3 seasons could be considered a sleeper? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh 0ne Posted November 29, 2004 Share Posted November 29, 2004 I'll be looking forward to next year to see what develops, Mort was saying on ESPN yesterday that Gibbs Diabetic condition may force him into an office job with the Skins next year. Which would mean a new coach, yet again. 580062[/snapback] In a post game interview Gibbs said he was fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soylent Green Posted November 29, 2004 Share Posted November 29, 2004 I'll bet that Mike Shanahan's laughing his a$$ off right now. 579189[/snapback] I'll bet he's not this morning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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