stan4osu Posted December 1, 2004 Share Posted December 1, 2004 League Commissioners and owners: I need your opinion... Our trade deadline is today and two of our league owners want to make a last minute trade. Owner 1 has clinched a playoff spot and Owner 2 is mathematically eliminated from making the playoffs. Owner 1 wants to trade Emmitt Smith (injured and out 2-3 weeks0 to Owner 2 who will give up Onterrio Smith (just named the Vikes starter for the rest of the season). Both have agreed to do the deal. To me, this clearly looks like collusion and as commish I have the power to veto the trade. Should I? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dman33 Posted December 1, 2004 Share Posted December 1, 2004 IMO Unless its a keeper league i would block ANY trade that was made by a team thats out of the playoffs...Theres no reason for it... please see my post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broncosn05 Posted December 1, 2004 Share Posted December 1, 2004 I am playing in the same type of scoring league as you and Emitt has been big but will be limited now at the end of this season and O. Smith is going to be much much more impressive. I think heck no because Emitt will not be the Emitt he was anymore. Check my post please reply Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighKite Posted December 1, 2004 Share Posted December 1, 2004 Not only would I veto it but I would not invite either owner back for next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAKE Posted December 1, 2004 Share Posted December 1, 2004 I would Veto it. What FFL Software are you using? CBS Sportsline - has 4 options, but one of them is: - A vote among other teams. You can bring it up to a vote among other teams, so it doesn't look like your the Bad guy when the majority vote goes against him. What are the other teams saying ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger1994 Posted December 1, 2004 Share Posted December 1, 2004 Void this trade and fine the owners. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balzac Posted December 1, 2004 Share Posted December 1, 2004 I would Veto it. What FFL Software are you using? CBS Sportsline - has 4 options, but one of them is: - A vote among other teams. You can bring it up to a vote among other teams, so it doesn't look like your the Bad guy when the majority vote goes against him. What are the other teams saying ? 584320[/snapback] This is a good idea. In my league, when I'm faced with borderline transactions I like to put them to the league if possible (i.e if I can get their input quickly) to see what they think. While I'd lean towards voiding this trade, I don't think it's a slam dunk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolverines Fan Posted December 1, 2004 Share Posted December 1, 2004 Yes, you should veto it. A team out of the playoff hunt acquring a back that will miss two or three weeks? Puh-leeease!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr. b00m Posted December 1, 2004 Share Posted December 1, 2004 i wouldn't void it. not that big of a deal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stan4osu Posted December 2, 2004 Author Share Posted December 2, 2004 Thanks! Any other opinions... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pzarvell Posted December 2, 2004 Share Posted December 2, 2004 Thanks! Any other opinions... 586606[/snapback] More options? Sure. Knee-cap them. Poke them in the eye with a sharp stick. Hit them in the side of the head with a rock. Punch them in the throat. Stick a fork in their shoulder. If you need more let me know. I'd probably go with the veto though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenHorns Posted December 2, 2004 Share Posted December 2, 2004 I would not approve the trade. A team out of the playoffs should not have the ability to trade. That is why trade deadlines should be earlier in the year. In most of my leagues, the deadline was Nov. 14th. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grits and Shins Posted December 2, 2004 Share Posted December 2, 2004 Do you have proof of collusion? What do your rules say about vetoing trades? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
satelliteoflovegm Posted December 2, 2004 Share Posted December 2, 2004 I would hate it but not veto it. But I would voice my displeasure to both teams and not invite them back. Trade deadlines solve a great deal of these problems. Ours was 2 weeks ago. (Keeper league though) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apathy Posted December 2, 2004 Share Posted December 2, 2004 Do you have proof of collusion? What do your rules say about vetoing trades? 586638[/snapback] I agree with Grits and Mr. b00m. I am so tired of owners complaining about trades being unfair to the rest of the league. If you have evidence of collusion, deny the trade; otherwise, aren't you saying that arm's-length transactions are always going to be subject to scrutiny because some other owner or owners thought it was "unfair?" I admit that it looks a little suspect but what if we turned the situation around and assumed Team #1 was trading for Emmitt and giving up Onterrio because he has secured a playoff spot and he has a deep lineup and would like Emmitt as a starter in week 14 or 15 or doesn't want somebody else in the playoffs to get Emmitt for whatever reason, or Onterrio sits on his bench and is not being used anyway, or he has information that Michael Bennett will actually get the bulk of the carries...do you still reject the trade? If you know the owners are up to something, reject the trade and penalize them. If you don't have evidence, I don't think you should get involved and I'll go even further to say that the other owners should worry about their own teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearcatTom Posted December 2, 2004 Share Posted December 2, 2004 If you are not a keeper league, then the trade makes no sense. Even in a keeper league, the trade is stupid, but not illegal. If you are a non keeper, then veto the trade. The owner out of the playoffs should have the common decency to not load up another team, but as they don't you should veto it. I'd talk to the 2 owners first, starting with the one out of the playoffs to see what they say. If the guy out of playoffs even mentions "why should he care, he's out of the playoffs" then veto the trade and not ask them back next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAMROCK Posted December 2, 2004 Share Posted December 2, 2004 If you are not a keeper league, then the trade makes no sense. Even in a keeper league, the trade is stupid, but not illegal. If you are a non keeper, then veto the trade. The owner out of the playoffs should have the common decency to not load up another team, but as they don't you should veto it. I'd talk to the 2 owners first, starting with the one out of the playoffs to see what they say. If the guy out of playoffs even mentions "why should he care, he's out of the playoffs" then veto the trade and not ask them back next year. 586939[/snapback] Block the trade this one was easy. Ramrock Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
51Butkus Posted December 2, 2004 Share Posted December 2, 2004 We limit trades to Week 9 or so, so this last minute desperation/collusion doesn't go on. It seems to work. Veto it, or submit it to an odd number of senior owners for a vote. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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