thorfinn Posted December 5, 2004 Share Posted December 5, 2004 with 1 minute to go in the first half...his QB rating is 17. I haven't seen figures that bad since...the 1 o'clock game with Mike Vick... He doesn't throw it to Javon enough. Yes, i'm a Walker owner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squeegiebo Posted December 5, 2004 Share Posted December 5, 2004 Vick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soopanuts Posted December 5, 2004 Share Posted December 5, 2004 Come on, you can't be serious. Even the general is bound to have a bad game now and then. The upside for Javon is that they'll need to throw the rest of the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Swerski Posted December 5, 2004 Share Posted December 5, 2004 Come on, you can't be serious. Even the general is bound to have a bad game now and then. You mean like 9 interceptions in his last 4 playoff games? As much as I like Favre, he is definitely not as good as people like Madden and Terry Bradshaw think he is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Posted December 5, 2004 Share Posted December 5, 2004 You mean like 9 interceptions in his last 4 playoff games? As much as I like Favre, he is definitely not as good as people like Madden and Terry Bradshaw think he is. 594385[/snapback] Fishing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skrappy1 Posted December 5, 2004 Share Posted December 5, 2004 Last I checked Favre has won a Superbowl as well as 3 or 4 MVP awards. Definitely Vick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaterMan Posted December 5, 2004 Share Posted December 5, 2004 Vick beat Favre. So Favre. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Posted December 5, 2004 Share Posted December 5, 2004 Favre tries to do too much himself when he gets behind. That is when he throws picks. A little defense would help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broncosn05 Posted December 5, 2004 Share Posted December 5, 2004 I still love Vick I think he's the best player in the NFL in value but after today I have to say they are both overated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squeegiebo Posted December 5, 2004 Share Posted December 5, 2004 I still love Vick I think he's the best player in the NFL in value but after today I have to say they are both overated 594395[/snapback] You are crazy. Favre has a bad first half against the best D in the NFC and that makes him overrated? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Swerski Posted December 5, 2004 Share Posted December 5, 2004 (edited) Fishing? 594386[/snapback] No, I'm serious. Favre is definitely one of the Top 10 QBs of all time and POSSIBLY one of the Top 5, but what has he done since 1997? 1996: GB defense was ranked #1 in both points allowed and yards allowed. Result: SB victory 1997: GB defense was ranked 5th in points allowed and 9th in yards allowed. Results: SB defeat 1998-2204: GB defense was only ranked in the Top 10 in points allowed ONCE and ONCE in the Top 10 in yards allowed. Result: Not even an appearance in the NFC Championship Game. From the '98 season onward, Favre is 2-4 in playoff games and has thrown 12 inerceptions in those six games. Brett's a great QB, but not the god that Madden and Terry think that he is. Edited December 5, 2004 by Bill Swerski Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorfinn Posted December 5, 2004 Author Share Posted December 5, 2004 Brett's a great QB, but not the god that Madden and Terry think that he is. 594399[/snapback] And Vick isn't as good as those who are saying he's a legit MVP candidate this year...are you kidding me? Can you imagine McNabb or Manning putting up a game like the stinker he put up today? I agree with your post, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big John Posted December 5, 2004 Share Posted December 5, 2004 No, I'm serious. Favre is definitely one of the Top 10 QBs of all time and POSSIBLY one of the Top 5, but what has he done since 1997? 1996: GB defense was ranked #1 in both points allowed and yards allowed. Result: SB victory 1997: GB defense was ranked 5th in points allowed and 9th in yards allowed. Results: SB defeat 1998-2204: GB defense was only ranked in the Top 10 in points allowed ONCE and ONCE in the Top 10 in yards allowed. Result: Not even an appearance in the NFC Championship Game. From the '98 season onward, Favre is 2-4 in playoff games and has thrown 12 inerceptions in those six games. Brett's a great QB, but not the god that Madden and Terry think that he is. 594399[/snapback] In the same parallel, Peyton Manning is a great QB, but needs a defense to get the Colts to the next level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LegFuJohnson Posted December 5, 2004 Share Posted December 5, 2004 Farve is always good if you need a sack record, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Swerski Posted December 5, 2004 Share Posted December 5, 2004 In the same parallel, Peyton Manning is a great QB, but needs a defense to get the Colts to the next level. 594419[/snapback] Agreed. Yet, people rip Manning for "choking in the big game" when Favre's been doing the same thing for the past four years, when he didn't have a dominant defense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whomper Posted December 5, 2004 Share Posted December 5, 2004 Brett Farve is nothing short of a legend.Im a cowboy fan and bye no means like the packers but Farve is an all around tremendous football player and by no means overrated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Vatican Hitsquad Posted December 5, 2004 Share Posted December 5, 2004 Dumbest question ever. If you can even ask that in seriousness, you have no knowledge of Football as a sport outside an XBox. Maybe this week, he's sucking. But you wanna call him overrated for that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Swerski Posted December 5, 2004 Share Posted December 5, 2004 Dumbest question ever. If you can even ask that in seriousness, you have no knowledge of Football as a sport outside an XBox. Maybe this week, he's sucking. But you wanna call him overrated for that? 594464[/snapback] Overrated by Madden and Terry, who thinks that he's "the greatest QB ever." He's one of the best ever IMO, but still overrated by Terry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorfinn Posted December 5, 2004 Author Share Posted December 5, 2004 Heh, that's funny about the Xbox thing... While i personally think Vick is by far more over rated, I've always thought Farve was a bit overrated. Bill Swerski's post sums it up pretty well... I guess i've seen too many of his games where he just absolutely stunk it up...That said, I love the guy and his spirit and think he's one of the best ever...top 10 for sure.... he just hasn't shown it for a few years... Dumbest question ever. If you can even ask that in seriousness, you have no knowledge of Football as a sport outside an XBox. Maybe this week, he's sucking. But you wanna call him overrated for that? 594464[/snapback] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Posted December 5, 2004 Share Posted December 5, 2004 Brett's a great QB, but not the god that Madden and Terry think that he is. 594399[/snapback] So what this is about is Madden drooling over Favre. Give it a rest. Madden isn't the only one. What most really like about him is his kid outlook and love of the game. That's what they like and so do I. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HADEPUDE Posted December 6, 2004 Share Posted December 6, 2004 VICK BLOWS. I don't see what all the hype over him is??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turf Boy Posted December 6, 2004 Share Posted December 6, 2004 clearly Favre is vastly overrated, has been for years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donutrun Jellies Posted December 6, 2004 Share Posted December 6, 2004 Farve is always good if you need a sack record, though. 594420[/snapback] Although Vick tried to give Favre a "RUN" for his money on this one, getting sacked FIVE TIMES vs TB, despite his ultra mobile skills ... Add in the INTS and FUMBLES ... and you My daughter thought he was "throwing" the game but then figured if he was, he wouldn't have been quite so obvious about it!! Plus, he couldn't throw anything yesterday!! Soooo, Ricky Williams isn't staying somewhere in the FLA/GA area, is he? And this from someone who LIKES Vick as a QB and wishes they'd use him even more creatively ... Heck, I was a huge fan of Slash!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaterMan Posted December 6, 2004 Share Posted December 6, 2004 VICK BLOWS. I don't see what all the hype over him is??? 595164[/snapback] LOL I love these comments when he has a bad game in the West Coast offense. Where are these comments when he has a good game? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolv Posted December 6, 2004 Share Posted December 6, 2004 Its been said before, and will be said again - Vick is overrated. Favre got no where NEAR the hype Vick got in preseason. Favre is CLEARLY the better QB - in fact, the question insults the intelligence of football fans. And to those that want to point out Favre's shortcomings in the playoffs: 1. He DOES have a Super Bowl to his resume. 2. This is 1 more Super Bowl than a QB who many consider the greatest of all - Marino. 201 consecutive starts. Lets see Nancy...err...Vick come close to that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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