JoJoTheWebToedBoy Posted March 24, 2005 Share Posted March 24, 2005 Another Rule named after a Cowboy. This time it's Roy "Cripple'em Williams" http://www.dallascowboys.com/news.cfm?id=D...2D23C60EB7A4BFD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainHook Posted March 24, 2005 Share Posted March 24, 2005 (edited) I saw this today. Ridiculous rule, in my opinion. You gotta grab hold of whatever you can and tackle however you can. I think this is a over-reaction on the NFL's part by making a rule to outlaw this. Players should just know, if they've got the ball, and Roy Williams is behind them, RUN FASTER. Or just pass over the top of him, 'cause he sucks in coverage. Edited March 24, 2005 by CaptainHook Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broncosn05 Posted March 24, 2005 Share Posted March 24, 2005 It's getting out of hand that's all that is needed to say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackshi17 Posted March 24, 2005 Share Posted March 24, 2005 (edited) This is a dumb proposal if they want to protect the receivers more than give them more equipment to wear like they use to do. Over the last twenty years the players have discarded equipment that protected them but restricted their manueverability. Current WR wear really small shoulder-pads and thats about it....no hip pads thigh pads and no neck braces. They do wear the improved helmets. Edited March 24, 2005 by jackshi17 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donutrun Jellies Posted March 24, 2005 Share Posted March 24, 2005 Whoever proposed that deserves a 15 yard penalty for unnecessary pansification of the game ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shotgun Messiahs Posted March 24, 2005 Share Posted March 24, 2005 Flag Football! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'canes2004 Posted March 24, 2005 Share Posted March 24, 2005 If they're gonna start trying to address how a player tackles, they might as well just stop tackling all together. So now you gonna have to teach techniques in tackling as well as everything else a player has to learn? Wow. Just so many stupid rules being brought in every year. It's getting out of hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaterMan Posted March 24, 2005 Share Posted March 24, 2005 I can see where they are coming from: Roy Williams injured Tyrone Calico and TO for the season making that tackle. But I don't know, WRs have it easy enough, I'd leave it alone. The NFL can't keep adding rules to help the offense out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herdmaster Posted March 24, 2005 Share Posted March 24, 2005 We can't have monster's roaming the quiet, NFL country side...what a freakin joke, why don't we do like Shotgun Messiah said and play flag football. Pretty soon it's gonna end up like that episode of "Friends" When Ross and Chandler get in a fight with those two guys at the coffee shop, and after going over all the places they "Aren't allowed to hit" they have an area about a foot in diameter in the chest region, well that seems to be the way the NFL is heading! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt. Ryan Posted March 24, 2005 Share Posted March 24, 2005 Its a complete joke. Do you know how strong you have to be to drag someone straight down like that. Personally few players can do what Roy is able to and that is why he has this so called rule named after him. Its a complete joke. Next thing you know, a DE is going to go around a OT, and drag a QB like Vick down from behind in the pocket, end his season, and Qbs and Wrs are going to be wearing flags. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gspot Posted March 24, 2005 Share Posted March 24, 2005 Its a complete joke. Do you know how strong you have to be to drag someone straight down like that. Personally few players can do what Roy is able to and that is why he has this so called rule named after him. Its a complete joke. Next thing you know, a DE is going to go around a OT, and drag a QB like Vick down from behind in the pocket, end his season, and Qbs and Wrs are going to be wearing flags. 748476[/snapback] Couldn't agree more, as they are completely pussifying the game. It baffles me how they can legislate tackling, but allow chop blocking to continue. No hitting the QB, no hitting with your helmet, no grabbing the shoulder pads.... Soon, they will legislate tackling below the waiste at this pace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REZ Posted March 24, 2005 Share Posted March 24, 2005 That's terrible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS Miscreant Posted March 24, 2005 Share Posted March 24, 2005 Ridiculous rule, in my opinion. Players should just know, if they've got the ball, and Roy Williams is behind them, RUN FASTER. 748137[/snapback] My thoughts, exactly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catdog Posted March 24, 2005 Share Posted March 24, 2005 NFL | League to Eliminate Horse-Collar Tackle? - from www.KFFL.com Wed, 23 Mar 2005 19:26:32 -0800 Nick Eatman, of DallasCowboys.com, reports the NFL appears to be on the verge of creating a new rule prohibiting the horse-collar tackling technique made infamous by Dallas Cowboys S Roy Williams during the 2004 season, for fear of injury. The technique involves grabbing a player by his neck, and then pulling him down immediately by his shoulder pads. If passed, players would likely receive a 15-yard unsportsmanlike conduct penalty. Williams injured three players last season using this type of tackle: Baltimore Ravens RB Musa Smith, Philadelphia Eagles WR Terrell Owens, and Tennessee Titans WR Tyrone Calico. I don't know what should be done,but three season ending injuries by one player(in one season :eek:) is alot? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NSab Posted March 24, 2005 Share Posted March 24, 2005 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebartender Posted March 24, 2005 Share Posted March 24, 2005 This is a dumb proposal if they want to protect the receivers more than give them more equipment to wear like they use to do.Over the last twenty years the players have discarded equipment that protected them but restricted their manueverability. Current WR wear really small shoulder-pads and thats about it....no hip pads thigh pads and no neck braces. They do wear the improved helmets. 748178[/snapback] Although I agree with you that the new proposal is ridiculous, how would more equipment help? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clubfoothead Posted March 24, 2005 Share Posted March 24, 2005 748975[/snapback] Coming from an Eagles fan that tell you all you need to know about this rule. It will really hurt the DL the most. They can still tackle in this method if the QB is not scrambling but are subject to the penalty when they are. Grab the QB by his jersey and typically, unless he's drew bledsoe, he'll scramble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'canes2004 Posted March 24, 2005 Share Posted March 24, 2005 Although I agree with you that the new proposal is ridiculous, how would more equipment help? 748985[/snapback] While I'm not sure what you said, your av rocks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chargerz Posted March 24, 2005 Share Posted March 24, 2005 I voted no. Ridiculous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovers Posted March 24, 2005 Share Posted March 24, 2005 If I understand this right, it's not the horse collar tackle they are outlawing, it's doing it while riding a player down to land on the back of his legs when doing the horse collar tackle. There is a difference. In order to land on a player's legs, once you have a hold of the shoulder pads, you have to pull yourself up onto his back as he goes down, so you will land on the back of his knees, as opposed to just holding on with your arms straight. Not an easy call for the refs to differentiate, but they don;t want to see marque players go down and out for the season. I't s sort of like the "dangerous move" rule in collegiate and olympic wrestling. Sort of like the cut back double team block... a dangerous move. Intent to injure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebartender Posted March 24, 2005 Share Posted March 24, 2005 While I'm not sure what you said, your av rocks! 749155[/snapback] Jackshi17 said that if the NFL wanted to cutdown on WRs getting injured from these types of tackles they should make the WRs wear more equipment. I fail to see how that would help in this case. Getting pulled down from behind and twisting your leg cannot be stopped by equipment correct? Maybe it would help with other types of tackles but not in this case IMO. And thanks for the AV props. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DemonKnight Posted March 24, 2005 Share Posted March 24, 2005 This is a dumb proposal if they want to protect the receivers more than give them more equipment to wear like they use to do.Over the last twenty years the players have discarded equipment that protected them but restricted their manueverability. Current WR wear really small shoulder-pads and thats about it....no hip pads thigh pads and no neck braces. They do wear the improved helmets. 748178[/snapback] How about razor sharp spikes rimming the collar portion of the shoulder pads Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retrograde assault Posted March 25, 2005 Share Posted March 25, 2005 So the back of the pads are now an extension of the face mask? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovers Posted March 25, 2005 Share Posted March 25, 2005 So the back of the pads are now an extension of the face mask? 750125[/snapback] No. As I understand it, a defender can still grab the pads, but he won't be allowed to ride the players back when he does it. The idea is to prevent a defender from falling on the ball carrier's legs when using the pads to bring him down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralph Furley Posted March 25, 2005 Share Posted March 25, 2005 Can you imagine what the old time players are probably thinking? They are most likely embarrassed at some of these rules. Let them play football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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