keggerz Posted May 14, 2005 Share Posted May 14, 2005 Ridicule Rounds 1-9 by roster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devilwoman Posted May 14, 2005 Share Posted May 14, 2005 interesting...the first DEF players went in the 3rd/4th rounds...Keg what was your thinking here rather than say a RB or WR? Not being critical just wondering your strategy??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spain Posted May 14, 2005 Share Posted May 14, 2005 Keg is the front runner for best roster assembled by a completely intoxicated trogladyte... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keggerz Posted May 14, 2005 Author Share Posted May 14, 2005 (edited) interesting...the first DEF players went in the 3rd/4th rounds...Keg what was your thinking here rather than say a RB or WR? Not being critical just wondering your strategy??? 813755[/snapback] It will be in my sumation of the draft but lets just say I grabbed the #1 & #2 LBs on my board(and probably most peoples boards)...I felt the value on the RBs and WRs wasnt to my liking and I KNEW that by grabbing those 2 LBs I would be able to start a mini run or so on the Def side thus letting me nab my targeted Off Players next pass or 2...the 11/12 spot is a tough one(especially if you grab a WR) I felt that RB was deep enough to warrant waiting...For those that want to ck you can see that DeShaun Foster was tearing it up last yr prior to his injury...yeah there is an injury history but the value he gives with his upsideI think the LBs will offset any probs i could face at the #2 RB spot...suggs IS the STARTER and I expect he will have some carries vulchured but I still see a serviceable #3 with #2 upside....My WRs IMO are going to be a strength....RMoss is Randy Moss and the Def in Oak will more then allow Randy to have a Great Yr this yr....Steve Smith is a slight injury risk but he was a delhomme favorite pre injury and I have no qualms with him as my #2....Coles back to NY will make everyone quickly forget about last yr in Washington Edit: As for London Fletcher he has been a model of consistency and I think the Buff Off struggles this yr especially early on and I love a solid performing vet like fletcher who should also be a top 10 LB(I did consider will witherspoon for a second over fletcher) If you want to know what I think of my team vs the others all i will say is there is alot of draft left and there are still some phenomenal values out there....sarge was/is in great position to get Nice OFFENSIVE players and he will be able to snap up some of the great LB values that are still out there...I loved sarges Antonio Pierce and Abraham picks Keg is the front runner for best roster assembled by a completely intoxicated trogladyte... 813756[/snapback] f u © k t @ r d go feed your sheep Edited May 14, 2005 by keggerz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spain Posted May 14, 2005 Share Posted May 14, 2005 f u © k t @ r d go feed your sheep 813779[/snapback] Sorry Keg! I didnt mean to call you a Trogladyte. I meant to say Eagles fan. The those 2 things are difficult to distinquish... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keggerz Posted May 14, 2005 Author Share Posted May 14, 2005 f u © k t @ r d go feed your sheep 813779[/snapback] Sorry Keg! I didnt mean to call you a Trogladyte. I meant to say Eagles fan. The those 2 things are difficult to distinquish... 813790[/snapback] :hewindsupandthrowsabigold12voltbatteryatspainstrailer: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turf Boy Posted May 15, 2005 Share Posted May 15, 2005 Too Funny! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turf Boy Posted May 15, 2005 Share Posted May 15, 2005 interesting...the first DEF players went in the 3rd/4th rounds...Keg what was your thinking here rather than say a RB or WR? Not being critical just wondering your strategy??? 813755[/snapback] I know this seems unconventional to some, however, the person who selected defensive players early in the Dynasty Warz II draft ended up with the best record. He even started taking them off the board earlier. There were also a couple of defensive "gurus" from the FBG side who put off drafting defense for the longest time(I guess they figured they could make it up with their vast knowledge on the D side). However, niether one sniffed .500 I'm not sure when the perfect time is to start selecting defense. It really varies with every draft. I definitely don't think you want to miss the boat on getting some of the top defensive players. They consistently score lots of points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovers Posted May 15, 2005 Share Posted May 15, 2005 I'm surprised no one but keg has called me out on the 1.3 Manning pick. I still think he outscores a second tier QB by 75 points, minimum. I did wait until the tenth round for my bye week RB, something I'd never do in a non-IDP league. The fact that this is an IDP mock made the Manning choice easier. I knew some RB's would stull be there, and while there is great disparity in the rankings I've seen for C Martin and Jordan, I think they should be solid. Vilma might look like I jumped (known Jets homer) at 4.10, he was just a rookie last year. I think he improves both on the field and as a FF stud LB. Hartwell now an MLB in a 4-3 should do pretty well, it's supposedly his natural position. I do wish I had taken Staley over Branch in the ninth round, but in a PPR, Faulk should be a servicable bye week RB in the tenth round. I loved that Santana Moss pick by keg in the first round though. BRILLIANT! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turf Boy Posted May 15, 2005 Share Posted May 15, 2005 I waited 2 rounds longer than anyone to draft my first defnesive player, pick 8.8. Im not sure it cost me a thing in talent or in consistency. Are my 2 Lbs thus far big name players, no. But both play MLB for teams that will be on the field a ton, and having the ball run down their throat at the end of games. It's all about value. You feel getting LBs like Pierce & Clark in rounds 8 & 10 were better value than picking one of the first LBs. I have no doubt you got better value than some LBs taken a couple rounds earlier. Picking Abraham cost you nothing in talent, but, consistency could be a question mark. Gotta love IDP drafts! Multiples of the strategy in normal drafts. Many ways to go & still hard to say what the best way is.....I'm pretty sure waiting 10 or so rounds before taking a defensive player is too long. Nobody did that here, but, we've seen it before. I was just saying from what we've experienced, a team has done quite well taking defensive players early....I'm sure you remember the guy who's no longer with us I was making the point that Keg might have a good strategy too. Nothing wrong with starting three 250 - 300 point LBs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crispirons Posted May 15, 2005 Share Posted May 15, 2005 the rosters wouldn't load for me.....screen just sort of did nothing. i would love to ridicule, if i could. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turf Boy Posted May 15, 2005 Share Posted May 15, 2005 Here you go Crisp, Los Gigantes Player YTD Pts Bye Drafted Vick, Michael ATL QB - 8 9.01 Bell, Tatum DEN RB - 9 4.12 Dunn, Warrick ATL RB - 8 6.12 Tomlinson, Ladainian SDC RB - 10 1.01 Harrison, Marvin IND WR - 8 3.01 Johnson, Chad CIN WR - 10 2.12 Shockey, Jeremy NYG TE - 5 7.01 Briggs, Lance CHI LB - 4 8.12 Urlacher, Brian CHI LB - 4 5.01 9 Total Players Gilthorp Player YTD Pts Bye Drafted Hasselbeck, Matt SEA QB - 8 9.02 Alexander, Shaun SEA RB - 8 1.02 Jones, Thomas CHI RB - 4 10.11 Taylor, Fred JAC RB - 7 2.11 Holt, Torry STL WR - 9 3.02 Mason, Derrick BAL WR - 3 7.02 Clark, Dallas IND TE - 8 8.11 Barton, Eric NYJ LB - 8 6.11 Harrison, Rodney NEP S - 7 4.11 Reed, Edward BAL S - 3 5.02 10 Total Players Rovers Player YTD Pts Bye Drafted Manning, Peyton IND QB - 8 1.03 Faulk, Marshall STL RB - 9 10.10 Jordan, Lamont OAK RB - 5 3.03 Martin, Curtis NYJ RB - 8 2.10 Branch, Deion NEP WR - 7 9.03 Burleson, Nate MIN WR - 5 5.03 Smith, Jimmy JAC WR - 7 7.03 Hartwell, Edgerton ATL LB - 8 8.10 Vilma, Jonathan NYJ LB - 8 4.10 Williams, Madieu CIN S - 10 6.10 10 Total Players Frazia Player YTD Pts Bye Drafted McNabb, Donovan PHI QB - 6 3.04 Barlow, Kevan SFO RB - 6 8.09 Jackson, Steven STL RB - 9 2.09 James, Edgerrin IND RB - 8 1.04 Bennett, Drew TEN WR - 10 6.09 Clayton, Michael TBB WR - 7 4.09 Williams, Kevin MIN DT - 5 7.04 Thomas, Zach MIA LB - 4 5.04 Trotter, Jeremiah PHI LB - 6 10.09 Polamalu, Troy PIT S - 4 9.04 10 Total Players Sarge Player YTD Pts Bye Drafted Brown, Chris TEN RB - 10 3.05 Holmes, Priest KCC RB - 5 1.05 Johnson, Rudi CIN RB - 10 2.08 Boldin, Anquan ARI WR - 6 6.08 Jackson, Darrell SEA WR - 8 4.08 Williams, Roy DET WR - 3 5.05 Witten, Jason DAL TE - 9 7.05 Abraham, John NYJ DE - 8 9.05 Clark, Danny OAK LB - 5 10.08 Pierce, Antonio NYG LB - 5 8.08 10 Total Players Darin3 Player YTD Pts Bye Drafted Dillon, Corey NEP RB - 7 1.06 Jones, Julius DAL RB - 9 2.07 Bruce, Isaac STL WR - 9 9.06 Muhammad, Muhsin CHI WR - 4 7.06 Wayne, Reggie IND WR - 8 4.07 Gates, Antonio SDC TE - 10 3.06 Peppers, Julius CAR DE - 7 5.06 Peterson, Mike JAC LB - 7 6.07 Barber, Ronde TBB CB - 7 8.07 Green, Michael CHI S - 4 10.07 10 Total Players Spain Player YTD Pts Bye Drafted Green, Trent KCC QB - 5 8.06 Green, Ahman GBP RB - 6 2.06 Lewis, Jamal BAL RB - 3 1.07 Staley, Duce PIT RB - 4 9.07 Horn, Joe NOS WR - 10 4.06 Lelie, Ashley DEN WR - 9 10.06 Rogers, Charles DET WR - 3 7.07 Gonzalez, Tony KCC TE - 5 3.07 Barnett, Nick GBP LB - 6 6.06 Sharper, Jamie SEA LB - 8 5.07 10 Total Players Steel Bunz Player YTD Pts Bye Drafted Bulger, Marc STL QB - 9 7.08 Brown, Ronnie MIA RB - 4 3.08 McGahee, Willis BUF RB - 9 1.08 Westbrook, Brian PHI RB - 6 2.05 Chambers, Chris MIA WR - 4 5.08 Ward, Hines PIT WR - 4 4.05 Crumpler, Alge ATL TE - 8 8.05 Schobel, Aaron BUF DE - 9 10.05 Morgan, Dan CAR LB - 7 6.05 Williams, D.J. DEN LB - 9 9.08 10 Total Players Perchoutofwater Player YTD Pts Bye Drafted Culpepper, Daunte MIN QB - 5 1.09 Arrington, J.J. ARI RB - 6 4.04 Bennett, Michael MIN RB - 5 8.04 Williams, Carnell TBB RB - 7 3.09 Owens, Terrell PHI WR - 6 2.04 Heap, Todd BAL TE - 3 7.09 Freeney, Dwight IND DE - 8 9.09 Kerney, Patrick ATL DE - 8 10.04 Brooking, Keith ATL LB - 8 5.09 Farrior, James PIT LB - 4 6.04 10 Total Players Digital Dan Player YTD Pts Bye Drafted Plummer, Jake DEN QB - 9 8.03 Benson, Cedric CHI RB - 4 3.10 Jones, Kevin DET RB - 3 2.03 McAllister, Deuce NOS RB - 10 1.10 Fitzgerald, Larry ARI WR - 6 9.10 Moulds, Eric BUF WR - 9 10.03 Porter, Jerry OAK WR - 5 6.03 Brooks, Derrick TBB LB - 7 5.10 Lewis, Ray BAL LB - 3 4.03 Williams, Roy DAL S - 9 7.10 10 Total Players Keg Player YTD Pts Bye Drafted Foster, De'shaun CAR RB - 7 6.02 Portis, Clinton WAS RB - 3 2.02 Suggs, Lee CLE RB - 4 9.11 Coles, Laveranues NYJ WR - 8 8.02 Moss, Randy OAK WR - 5 1.11 Smith, Steve CAR WR - 7 5.11 Taylor, Jason MIA DE - 4 10.02 Bulluck, Keith TEN LB - 10 3.11 Edwards, Donnie SDC LB - 10 4.02 Fletcher, London BUF LB - 9 7.11 10 Total Players Rajncajn Player YTD Pts Bye Drafted Pennington, Chad NYJ QB - 8 10.01 Barber, Tiki NYG RB - 5 1.12 Davis, Domanick HOU RB - 3 2.01 Johnson, Andre HOU WR - 3 4.01 Walker, Javon GBP WR - 6 3.12 Grant, Charles NOS DE - 10 6.01 Spikes, Takeo BUF LB - 9 5.12 Witherspoon, Will CAR LB - 7 7.12 Taylor, Sean WAS S - 3 8.01 Wilson, Adrian ARI S - 6 9.12 10 Total Players Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turf Boy Posted May 15, 2005 Share Posted May 15, 2005 Exactly. Keg has a excellent team thus far, and his strategy has worked well for him. I also took Abraham in round 9, and he is a high risk / reward player. If hes healthy for a full season he could be the best DL in the league. If hes not, I didnt risk losing a top pick, on him that cost me somewhere else. 813964[/snapback] I agree 100%, Abraham could be a monster. If you don't want to spend an early pick on a Peppers or Grant.....Abraham's a great gamble to take. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitaldan21 Posted May 15, 2005 Share Posted May 15, 2005 Well, I haven't chimed in much, so here's my view of how it's gone so far..... Los Gigantes Player YTD Pts Bye Drafted Vick, Michael ATL QB - 8 9.01 Bell, Tatum DEN RB - 9 4.12 Dunn, Warrick ATL RB - 8 6.12 Tomlinson, Ladainian SDC RB - 10 1.01 Harrison, Marvin IND WR - 8 3.01 Johnson, Chad CIN WR - 10 2.12 Shockey, Jeremy NYG TE - 5 7.01 Briggs, Lance CHI LB - 4 8.12 Urlacher, Brian CHI LB - 4 5.01 9 Total Players LT2, is a no brainer at 1.1, went WR/WR at the turn, a good move if you can pull it off, unfortunately you took Chad Johnson over THolt, and therefore didn't. Tatum Bell should only go here if you live in Denver, and don't know much about FF. I like Urlacher, just not right there, too early. Do you live in Denver or Chicago? Warrick Dunn is an OK pick, but Shockey hasn't done anything in the last few years to be considered a top performing TE. Did you draft him because you have a cool poster of him in your room, because you can't live in NYC too. The only reason to take Briggs is to hedge your bet if Urlacher goes down, so you have to believe Urlacher's going to get hurt to draft Briggs here, but then why draft Urlacher? 'Chicken or the egg' I guess. Mike Vick at 9.01, if he stays healthy, he's a bargain, but if he gets a herpes outbreak during the season, you may want to look into the side effects of Valtrex. Gilthorp Player YTD Pts Bye Drafted Hasselbeck, Matt SEA QB - 8 9.02 Alexander, Shaun SEA RB - 8 1.02 Jones, Thomas CHI RB - 4 10.11 Taylor, Fred JAC RB - 7 2.11 Holt, Torry STL WR - 9 3.02 Mason, Derrick BAL WR - 3 7.02 Clark, Dallas IND TE - 8 8.11 Barton, Eric NYJ LB - 8 6.11 Harrison, Rodney NEP S - 7 4.11 Reed, Edward BAL S - 3 5.02 10 Total Players Rovers Player YTD Pts Bye Drafted Manning, Peyton IND QB - 8 1.03 Faulk, Marshall STL RB - 9 10.10 Jordan, Lamont OAK RB - 5 3.03 Martin, Curtis NYJ RB - 8 2.10 Branch, Deion NEP WR - 7 9.03 Burleson, Nate MIN WR - 5 5.03 Smith, Jimmy JAC WR - 7 7.03 Hartwell, Edgerton ATL LB - 8 8.10 Vilma, Jonathan NYJ LB - 8 4.10 Williams, Madieu CIN S - 10 6.10 10 Total Players Frazia Player YTD Pts Bye Drafted McNabb, Donovan PHI QB - 6 3.04 Barlow, Kevan SFO RB - 6 8.09 Jackson, Steven STL RB - 9 2.09 James, Edgerrin IND RB - 8 1.04 Bennett, Drew TEN WR - 10 6.09 Clayton, Michael TBB WR - 7 4.09 Williams, Kevin MIN DT - 5 7.04 Thomas, Zach MIA LB - 4 5.04 Trotter, Jeremiah PHI LB - 6 10.09 Polamalu, Troy PIT S - 4 9.04 10 Total Players Sarge Player YTD Pts Bye Drafted Brown, Chris TEN RB - 10 3.05 Holmes, Priest KCC RB - 5 1.05 Johnson, Rudi CIN RB - 10 2.08 Boldin, Anquan ARI WR - 6 6.08 Jackson, Darrell SEA WR - 8 4.08 Williams, Roy DET WR - 3 5.05 Witten, Jason DAL TE - 9 7.05 Abraham, John NYJ DE - 8 9.05 Clark, Danny OAK LB - 5 10.08 Pierce, Antonio NYG LB - 5 8.08 10 Total Players Darin3 Player YTD Pts Bye Drafted Dillon, Corey NEP RB - 7 1.06 Jones, Julius DAL RB - 9 2.07 Bruce, Isaac STL WR - 9 9.06 Muhammad, Muhsin CHI WR - 4 7.06 Wayne, Reggie IND WR - 8 4.07 Gates, Antonio SDC TE - 10 3.06 Peppers, Julius CAR DE - 7 5.06 Peterson, Mike JAC LB - 7 6.07 Barber, Ronde TBB CB - 7 8.07 Green, Michael CHI S - 4 10.07 10 Total Players Spain Player YTD Pts Bye Drafted Green, Trent KCC QB - 5 8.06 Green, Ahman GBP RB - 6 2.06 Lewis, Jamal BAL RB - 3 1.07 Staley, Duce PIT RB - 4 9.07 Horn, Joe NOS WR - 10 4.06 Lelie, Ashley DEN WR - 9 10.06 Rogers, Charles DET WR - 3 7.07 Gonzalez, Tony KCC TE - 5 3.07 Barnett, Nick GBP LB - 6 6.06 Sharper, Jamie SEA LB - 8 5.07 10 Total Players Steel Bunz Player YTD Pts Bye Drafted Bulger, Marc STL QB - 9 7.08 Brown, Ronnie MIA RB - 4 3.08 McGahee, Willis BUF RB - 9 1.08 Westbrook, Brian PHI RB - 6 2.05 Chambers, Chris MIA WR - 4 5.08 Ward, Hines PIT WR - 4 4.05 Crumpler, Alge ATL TE - 8 8.05 Schobel, Aaron BUF DE - 9 10.05 Morgan, Dan CAR LB - 7 6.05 Williams, D.J. DEN LB - 9 9.08 10 Total Players Perchoutofwater Player YTD Pts Bye Drafted Culpepper, Daunte MIN QB - 5 1.09 Arrington, J.J. ARI RB - 6 4.04 Bennett, Michael MIN RB - 5 8.04 Williams, Carnell TBB RB - 7 3.09 Owens, Terrell PHI WR - 6 2.04 Heap, Todd BAL TE - 3 7.09 Freeney, Dwight IND DE - 8 9.09 Kerney, Patrick ATL DE - 8 10.04 Brooking, Keith ATL LB - 8 5.09 Farrior, James PIT LB - 4 6.04 10 Total Players Digital Dan Player YTD Pts Bye Drafted Plummer, Jake DEN QB - 9 8.03 Benson, Cedric CHI RB - 4 3.10 Jones, Kevin DET RB - 3 2.03 McAllister, Deuce NOS RB - 10 1.10 Fitzgerald, Larry ARI WR - 6 9.10 Moulds, Eric BUF WR - 9 10.03 Porter, Jerry OAK WR - 5 6.03 Brooks, Derrick TBB LB - 7 5.10 Lewis, Ray BAL LB - 3 4.03 Williams, Roy DAL S - 9 7.10 10 Total Players Keg Player YTD Pts Bye Drafted Foster, De'shaun CAR RB - 7 6.02 Portis, Clinton WAS RB - 3 2.02 Suggs, Lee CLE RB - 4 9.11 Coles, Laveranues NYJ WR - 8 8.02 Moss, Randy OAK WR - 5 1.11 Smith, Steve CAR WR - 7 5.11 Taylor, Jason MIA DE - 4 10.02 Bulluck, Keith TEN LB - 10 3.11 Edwards, Donnie SDC LB - 10 4.02 Fletcher, London BUF LB - 9 7.11 10 Total Players Rajncajn Player YTD Pts Bye Drafted Pennington, Chad NYJ QB - 8 10.01 Barber, Tiki NYG RB - 5 1.12 Davis, Domanick HOU RB - 3 2.01 Johnson, Andre HOU WR - 3 4.01 Walker, Javon GBP WR - 6 3.12 Grant, Charles NOS DE - 10 6.01 Spikes, Takeo BUF LB - 9 5.12 Witherspoon, Will CAR LB - 7 7.12 Taylor, Sean WAS S - 3 8.01 Wilson, Adrian ARI S - 6 9.12 10 Total Players I will do the rest, but it takes longer than it looks. -DD21 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Los Gigantes Posted May 15, 2005 Share Posted May 15, 2005 Lance Briggs 2004: 9 games with Urlacher 14.44 points per game 7 games without 14.2 points per game. I'm quite happy playing both. The bears will be horrile next year, and there are a ton of tackles to go around. As for Urlacher's injury probls, all indidcations are he is finally healed. He wasn't injured 3 separate times last year, he kept agrvating the same injury because he tried to rush back. The off season has given him the time to heal, and he is no more likely thananyone else to miss time this year. He's only a few years removed from being the consensus 1st or 2nd LB. He is still just as talented, and if anything has a better scheme, designed to make use of his talents. As for Shockey, the giants have improved the Oline, plan on using him more in the passing game, and burress will take some of the attention away. I watch the giants very closely, and think Shockey is ready for a career year, and will be leaned on heavily by the young qb. I am not a believer in clarett. Shanny drafted him for his upside, and because they needed depth at rb after losing droughns. Shanny will play the back that gives his team the best chance to win, and that is bell. At 4.12, a back with a very good chance to be the year long starter in Denver is a great value pick. Bell was drafted earlier than clarett, if you buy shanny not wanting tolook like an idiot, he wants bell to succeed too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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