Squeegiebo Posted July 4, 2005 Share Posted July 4, 2005 It's that time again when I ask you all for advice on who to start in a Major in my golf league. This is a big one for me, as I have picked up some ground and am not far out of 1st place, and because I have so many darn European players to choose from. My options (must play 5): Tiger Woods Padraig Harrington Darren Clarke Luke Donald Lee Westwood Justin Rose (Don't see him in the field yet - can he really not be playing? ) Peter Lonard Paul Casey Stephen Leaney (Same as with Rose) Jose Maria Olazabal David Howell I'm tempted to just go with my top 5 draft picks (Woods through Westwood), but Lonard did win a few weeks ago, Olazabal has been playing well this year, and I can't completely write off Howell or Casey. Thoughts? (FYI - in case you didn't know, they're playing at St. Andrews this year. Last time the Open was at St. Andrews (2001), a Mr. Eldrick Woods won , Clarke finished T7, Harrington T20, Olazabal T31, Elkington T60, Westwood T64, and Donald and Leaney missed the cut.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackshi17 Posted July 4, 2005 Share Posted July 4, 2005 I would go with Woods Harrington Clarke Casey and Olazabal No real reason just a feeling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seminoles Posted July 6, 2005 Share Posted July 6, 2005 woods lonard clarke harrington howell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeductiveNun Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 I tend to think you've got it pegged with your top 5 Squeeg. Where has Olazabal been playing well this year? Certainly not in the U.S. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gilthorp Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 It's that time again when I ask you all for advice on who to start in a Major in my golf league. This is a big one for me, as I have picked up some ground and am not far out of 1st place, and because I have so many darn European players to choose from. My options (must play 5): Tiger Woods Padraig Harrington Darren Clarke Luke Donald Lee Westwood Justin Rose (Don't see him in the field yet - can he really not be playing? ) Peter Lonard Paul Casey Stephen Leaney (Same as with Rose) Jose Maria Olazabal David Howell I'm tempted to just go with my top 5 draft picks (Woods through Westwood), but Lonard did win a few weeks ago, Olazabal has been playing well this year, and I can't completely write off Howell or Casey. Thoughts? (FYI - in case you didn't know, they're playing at St. Andrews this year. Last time the Open was at St. Andrews (2001), a Mr. Eldrick Woods won , Clarke finished T7, Harrington T20, Olazabal T31, Elkington T60, Westwood T64, and Donald and Leaney missed the cut.) 863851[/snapback] I did see that Justin Rose did not qualify for the Open. Woods, Olazabal, Harrington, Clarke, Casey....IMO. I think Luke Donald has peaked for the year....that's just a swag though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squeegiebo Posted July 8, 2005 Author Share Posted July 8, 2005 Where has Olazabal been playing well this year? Certainly not in the U.S. 868097[/snapback] AT&T Pebble Beach National Pro-Am T16 Nissan Open T37 Chrysler Classic of Tucson T9 Ford Championship at Doral T6 BellSouth Classic P2 MCI Heritage T13 Shell Houston Open 3 the Memorial Tournament T45 Birdie Average 3.81 14th Scoring Average 70.35 26th Sand Save Percentage 62.5% 5th All-Around Ranking 466 20th Money Leaders $1,138,648 33rd Par Breakers 21.3% 23rd Putts Per Round 28.30 7th Not bad for only 11 events. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squeegiebo Posted July 8, 2005 Author Share Posted July 8, 2005 Woods, Olazabal, Harrington, Clarke, Casey....IMO. I think Luke Donald has peaked for the year....that's just a swag though. 868149[/snapback] The talking heads have really been talking Donald up this season, particularly re: the US Open. You could be right, though. That would be my typical luck. Why do you say Casey? Dude has only made 2 cuts in 7 starts, including the W/D after an opening-round 85 at the US Open. You know something I don't? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyBalata Posted July 8, 2005 Share Posted July 8, 2005 Gotta say go with your first five on your list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeductiveNun Posted July 8, 2005 Share Posted July 8, 2005 AT&T Pebble Beach National Pro-Am T16 Nissan Open T37 Chrysler Classic of Tucson T9 Ford Championship at Doral T6 BellSouth Classic P2 MCI Heritage T13 Shell Houston Open 3 the Memorial Tournament T45 Birdie Average 3.81 14th Scoring Average 70.35 26th Sand Save Percentage 62.5% 5th All-Around Ranking 466 20th Money Leaders $1,138,648 33rd Par Breakers 21.3% 23rd Putts Per Round 28.30 7th Not bad for only 11 events. 869135[/snapback] :doah: Figures. It seems I have a tremendous knack for picking him in the events he misses the cut. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justin Posted July 12, 2005 Share Posted July 12, 2005 Padraig Harrington is out of the tourney due to the passing of his father. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gopher Posted July 12, 2005 Share Posted July 12, 2005 Harrington just withdrew...... Dad died of cancer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gopher Posted July 12, 2005 Share Posted July 12, 2005 I would go with the top five, but substitute JMO for Harrington. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squeegiebo Posted July 12, 2005 Author Share Posted July 12, 2005 Padraig Harrington is out of the tourney due to the passing of his father. 874945[/snapback] Harrington just withdrew...... Dad died of cancer. 874949[/snapback] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squeegiebo Posted July 13, 2005 Author Share Posted July 13, 2005 Just checked out 3 different betting sites, and the oddsmakers all agree on Woods, Clarke, Donald, and Westwood, so I'm going with those 4. One site had Lonard as the 5th. Another had Howell and Casey ahead of Lonard. The third had Lonard and Olazabal at the same odds as my 5th. I'm thinking of going with Lonard. If someone has a good reason why I should start Olazabal, Howell, or Casey instead of Lonard, I would gladly consider the info. This would be so much easier if Harrington were playing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gilthorp Posted July 13, 2005 Share Posted July 13, 2005 Squeeg, I had nothing on Casey but a swag...nothing more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Down Goes Frazia Posted July 13, 2005 Share Posted July 13, 2005 alright Squeeg ... here's my thoughts. Tiger Woods - 19 Padraig Harrington -6 Darren Clarke -8 Luke Donald +4 Lee Westwood +3 Peter Lonard - DNP Paul Casey -DNP Stephen Leaney +1 Jose Maria Olazabal -4 David Howell - DNP 2000 St. Andrews results these are the scores from your team..... the last time they were at St. Andrews. don't get too caught up in who's hot... who's not heading into this tourney. Heck, Hamilton & Curtis weren't on anyones list. I think Olazabal gets a look.... he was only 1 of 4 of your players that finished under par in 2000. And if you go back to 1995... he was top 30 that year too. This track is a beast especially for guys who haven't competed here before in an open championship. Best of luck.... here's our draft BTW Team 1- woods, clarke, perry & cink Team Fraz - mickelson, toms, donald & jimenez Team 3 - singh, westwood, love & cabrera Team 4- els, furyk, dimarco & leonard Team 5 - goosen, garcia, appleby & bjorn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squeegiebo Posted July 13, 2005 Author Share Posted July 13, 2005 don't get too caught up in who's hot... who's not heading into this tourney. Heck, Hamilton & Curtis weren't on anyones list. I think Olazabal gets a look.... he was only 1 of 4 of your players that finished under par in 2000. And if you go back to 1995... he was top 30 that year too. This track is a beast especially for guys who haven't competed here before in an open championship. 876365[/snapback] Good info here. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squeegiebo Posted July 13, 2005 Author Share Posted July 13, 2005 I think Olazabal gets a look.... he was only 1 of 4 of your players that finished under par in 2000. And if you go back to 1995... he was top 30 that year too. This track is a beast especially for guys who haven't competed here before in an open championship. 876365[/snapback] I just read this... Driving will be key to the Championship says Garcia"Driving the ball well is going to be huge," said Sergio Garcia, Europe's leading player in the world rankings, after his first practice round on the Old Course. "I'd say it's quite a bit different from where it was playing in 2000. The changes have made the course quite a bit tougher than five years ago." The new tees, thicker rough and narrower fairways have all combined to put a premium on tee shots. "Five years ago it was just hit it pretty much as high as you can and carry all the bunkers," he added. "But this year you can't do that on some of the holes. If you just miss a fairway, miss it by three yards, which is not a bad tee shot, you're going to struggle to get some control on your ball. ... which, when combined with this.... Jose Maria Olazabal - 2005 StatsDriving Accuracy Percentage 62.5% 92nd Total Driving 210 134th ... makes me a little wary of Jose Maria. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Down Goes Frazia Posted July 13, 2005 Share Posted July 13, 2005 remember too.... the wind. Everyone will have issues keeping the ball out of the heather if the wind is hollowing. they made those changes because Tiger went -19. I understand your concern.... I'm just making a reasonable case for Olazabal based on past opens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevinL Posted July 13, 2005 Share Posted July 13, 2005 My info has Howell withdrawing as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyBalata Posted July 13, 2005 Share Posted July 13, 2005 I think I like the Lonard pick. Was just reading my SI preview issue for the British and they have some info about him and his ability to play in the wind. They say he has the best knockdown shot in the game. Just what he'll need this weekend I think. His one victory on the PGA this year was in very windy conditions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gilthorp Posted July 13, 2005 Share Posted July 13, 2005 Looks like he'll be more popular than I thought when I selected him for our little contest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squeegiebo Posted July 13, 2005 Author Share Posted July 13, 2005 Thanks for all the tips guys! I may have to resort to my version of the coin toss to decide fantasy lineups: I take two dog treats designate the one in my left hand as Olazabal and the one in my right as Lonard, and whichever one my dog chooses first gets the start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squeegiebo Posted July 13, 2005 Author Share Posted July 13, 2005 I may have to resort to my version of the coin toss to decide fantasy lineups: I take two dog treats designate the one in my left hand as Olazabal and the one in my right as Lonard, and whichever one my dog chooses first gets the start. 876943[/snapback] My dog picked Olazabal. So did my husband. I already turned in my lineup using Lonard, but I can change it anythime before midnight. If I make the last-minute switch to Olazabal, I just know he'll miss the cut and Lonard will finish in the top 20. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeductiveNun Posted July 13, 2005 Share Posted July 13, 2005 My dog picked Olazabal. So did my husband. I already turned in my lineup using Lonard, but I can change it anythime before midnight. If I make the last-minute switch to Olazabal, I just know he'll miss the cut and Lonard will finish in the top 20. 877523[/snapback] Squeeg, I took Lonard in the Best Ball Challenge, thus assuring that he will not make the cut. :soundofotherHuddlersstampedingtochangetheirlineup: Stick with Olazabal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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