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  1. UAW vs. Japan

    I'm just scanning this thread and I haveyet to see anything about the big 3's benefits issues. I read a statistic awhile back that stated that for every GM employee, they have at least 5 more that are retired and are receiving full benefits. The costs involved in providing all these benefits is what is, in large part, eating into the profitibility of the US Auto industry.
  2. North Carolina Huddlers

    I'd love to meet the great and almighty unta face to face...
  3. What do you think?

    Who loves America now?
  4. Dateline NBC

  5. Dateline NBC

    In regards to this particiular issue, and given unta's testimony, I might be inclinded to soften my view, but in general principle, the principle still holds. The police cannot arrest you for something they "think" you might do based upon their speculation alone.
  6. Thought these were funny...

    The Washington Post has also published the winning submissions to its yearly contest in which readers are asked to supply alternate meanings for common words. And the winners are: 1. Coffee, n. the person upon whom one coughs. 2. Flabbergasted, adj. appalled by discovering how much weight one has gained. 3. Abdicate, v. to give up all hope of ever having a flat stomach. 4. Esplanade, v. to attempt an explanation while drunk. 5. Willy-Nilly, adj. impotent. 6. Negligent, adj. absentmindedly answering the door when wearing only a nightgown. 7. Lymph, v. to walk with a lisp. 8. Gargoyle, n. olive-flavored mouthwash. 9. Flatulence, n. emergency vehicle that picks up someone who has been run over by a steamroller. 10. Balderdash, n. a rapidly receding hairline. 11. Testicle, n. a humorous question on an exam. 12. Rectitude, n. the formal, dignified bearing adopted by proctologists. 13. Pokemon, n. a Rastafarian proctologist. 14. Oyster, n. a person who sprinkles his conversation with Yiddishisms. 15. Frisbeetarianism, n. the belief that, after death, the soul flies up onto the roof and gets stuck there. 16. Circumvent, n. an opening in the front of boxers.
  7. Dateline NBC

    Not necessary, but appreciated.
  8. Dateline NBC

    Well, clearly, the guys who show up with toys and condoms, they deserve what they get, but that's not really my point. IUnta has plenty of experience with criminal offenders and I respect his opinion. I am working from the assumption that this type of crime is like any other: buying drugs, stealing, scalping, whatever. I think that given the proper circumstances people could be coerced into doing many things. He make a valid point, this crime is not like those others. That these men most likely show a pattern of behavior, their appearance on the show being the culmination of many years of progression. I get that part, but the principle still seems valid to me. That law enforcement officials ought not to tempt people to break the law, particularly when there's a profit motive involved.
  9. Dateline NBC

    You certinaly paint a vivid picture, and I think you are right that a reasonable person could not be coerced into going. I suppose its more of the television aspect that bothers me. It is in NBC's interests for people to show up at that house. As I already linked, Stone Phillips admitted that it is the "bait" that initiates sexual discussion at times. That's the first step in subverting the system. The law says that the idea must originate with the perpitrator. By your account, no matter what NBC might do to initate the situation, a sexual encounter was always on the offenders mind.
  10. Dateline NBC

    From wikipedia:
  11. Dateline NBC

    But how many men who have been caught on that show have no criminal background and no history of sexually deviant behavior. You can't arrest someone you "think" is going to commit a criminal act, when you have no history on that person. I understand that you see a side of this that not many of us do, but for me it's pretty simple. Talking in a chat room is not cause for arrest. Why? Because they are not arresting these men for chatting (granted, they are being charged with having sexually explicit conversations with a minor) Dateline, or law enforcemnt could find out the identities through internet service providers, but that's not what is happening. The incite these men to come to the house and then they arrest them for the purpose of entertainment. Its a pretty gray area if you ask me.
  12. Dateline NBC

    I might not have such a negative view of the tactic if television weren't involved. It certainly doesn't avoid "even the appearance of impropriety"
  13. Dateline NBC

    As per North Carolina Law: I suppose, in the context of the show, by chatting with someone they believe to be underage, law enforcement officials would claim that the defendant had already decided to go through with meeting them in person. But certainly, you can see how asking people over and over (one man I saw on the show had turned the girl down several times to come and see her over a period of several months) to come to the girl's house could be construed as entrapment. If chatting alone was enough to be arrested, then why wasn't he arrested months before? Because then you couldn't capture the look of his face on camera as Stone Phillips (or whoever) comes out from behind the changing curtain.
  14. Dateline NBC

    Perhaps this is something that could vary from state to state then? And even if it's not, can you now see my point outside of the idea that I really want to bang my 12 yo neighbor?