chires Posted July 31, 2005 Share Posted July 31, 2005 I am in a perf league where ALL TD's are 6 pnts and backs are given 1 pnt /20 yrds and 1/2 pnt in receptions Manning, LT and Alexander are gone...so do i take Edge or Priest in this scoring format. I am leaning towars Priest but I am not high on taking L Johnson in the 5th, which is when I would have to take him in order to get the handcuff Thanks Guys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ts Posted July 31, 2005 Share Posted July 31, 2005 (edited) The "Priest" question comes up a lot ... depends of course on how many teams in the league & if a snake draft, but IMO in a 12-team he's worth the risk/reward at 1.6-1.7, but not at 1.3 ... at 1.3 I want a guy that can be counted on (well, as much as possible) to play for me all season, not play very well for 7 games, or 10 games ... too many picks before the draft comes back to me to make a "risky" 1.3 selection ... and no way I want to spend a 1st and a 5th to secure one position. To answer the original question, I'd rather have Edge. Edited July 31, 2005 by ts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chires Posted July 31, 2005 Author Share Posted July 31, 2005 It's a 10 team league Snake style draft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolverines Fan Posted July 31, 2005 Share Posted July 31, 2005 It seems like a typical safe pick/risky pick choice. Edge is clearly the safer pick because of his health. Priest, who has had season-ending injuries during the last two seasons (he is also on the wrong side of 30), is the risky choice. I say roll the dice with Priest because his upside his huge. The guy is a touchdown machine and the first option in the KC offense. If you do, be sure and grab L. Johnson. Let us know what you do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ts Posted July 31, 2005 Share Posted July 31, 2005 In a 10-team, I might be tempted to take Holmes at 1.3, since the talent pool is greater/the draft turn is shorter ... however, in a 10-team, all your starters need to be good, so if you take Priest, I think you'd best be prepared to make it an all-or-nothing choice & NOT use a 5th round pick on a guy that you hope will be his backup all year ... instead, use that 5th rounder on filling another starting spot on your FF squad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balzac Posted July 31, 2005 Share Posted July 31, 2005 Edge, for the aforementioned reasons. If you pick Priest, you'll be sweating LJ for the next 5 rounds and will absolutely crap yourself when someone else takes him - if you miss out on LJ, that could potentially ruin your entire season. I like to stay away from guys that have obvious handcuffs like that b/c it's devastating if someone snipes that handcuff out from under you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty Weasel Posted July 31, 2005 Share Posted July 31, 2005 Edge, for the aforementioned reasons. If you pick Priest, you'll be sweating LJ for the next 5 rounds and will absolutely crap yourself when someone else takes him - if you miss out on LJ, that could potentially ruin your entire season. I like to stay away from guys that have obvious handcuffs like that b/c it's devastating if someone snipes that handcuff out from under you. 902899[/snapback] Draft Priest with confidence. I understand the handcuff concern. I just don't see Priest as fragile as everyone else. He only missed 2 games from 2001 - 2003, and 8 last season. But why did he miss 8? Was his injury that bad? I don't think so. I think Vermeil knew his team was out of the playoff picture, so he decided to let his youngsters play, and save Priest for this year. You will most likely take another RB in round 2, and maybe another in 3 or 4. So you'll have 2 more starting RB's "if" Priest gets hurt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cliaz Posted July 31, 2005 Share Posted July 31, 2005 Draft Priest with confidence. I understand the handcuff concern. I just don't see Priest as fragile as everyone else. He only missed 2 games from 2001 - 2003, and 8 last season. But why did he miss 8? Was his injury that bad? I don't think so. I think Vermeil knew his team was out of the playoff picture, so he decided to let his youngsters play, and save Priest for this year. You will most likely take another RB in round 2, and maybe another in 3 or 4. So you'll have 2 more starting RB's "if" Priest gets hurt. 902960[/snapback] you make a good point Dirty Weasel. But personally I think his age is about to catch up to him in a big way. I would go with Edge, you can never go wrong with any starting RB or WR on the colts. I understand everyones thought with priest, I mean, he is a TD machine but as for me, I want to take someone who has a better shot at being around down during the stretch then someone who might not be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balzac Posted July 31, 2005 Share Posted July 31, 2005 Draft Priest with confidence. I understand the handcuff concern. I just don't see Priest as fragile as everyone else. He only missed 2 games from 2001 - 2003, and 8 last season. But why did he miss 8? Was his injury that bad? I don't think so. I think Vermeil knew his team was out of the playoff picture, so he decided to let his youngsters play, and save Priest for this year. You will most likely take another RB in round 2, and maybe another in 3 or 4. So you'll have 2 more starting RB's "if" Priest gets hurt. 902960[/snapback] Injuries are only one thing to worry about with Priest - the other is the simple fact that Larry Johnson is running up his heels and absolutely SHINED last year when Priest was hurt. There's no reason for KC to overuse Holmes like they did in years past - I think you'll see that LJ will take a sizeable number of carries away from Priest in an effort to keep the latter healthy. I still think Holmes is the best fantasy back around, but that's only IF he gets the same number of touches that he was getting 2 years ago. With a young horse like LJ in the picture, I just don't see that happening. I still take Edge over Holmes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrenaline Posted July 31, 2005 Share Posted July 31, 2005 (edited) In a 10 team league I would take Holmes then suck it up & take LJ in the 5th. Something like PH RB WR WR LJ. Whoever the RB in KC is a stud worth having. Edited July 31, 2005 by Adrenaline Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonedaddies Posted July 31, 2005 Share Posted July 31, 2005 If the debate is between these two players ONLY, I would look at chances around the goal line. Colts and Manning are play-action pass, Chiefs are hand it off!! LJ had a few fumbles around the goal line last year, "Cry-baby".......I mean Vermeal will not stand for that, Priest will get the touches!!! Schedule for the Chiefs is also tough, I do not see them resting their #1 RB or pulling him out late in games. LJ has come a long way from needing "diapers" early last year and will be part of the mix and take some carries away from Holmes, but as FF grows over the next three years there will not be too many teams that do not have a 1-2 punch in the backfield!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLGRAF Posted July 31, 2005 Share Posted July 31, 2005 Take Edge. He is an LT2 clone, albeit less prolific, in that he is involved in Indy's entire offense. And, after Manning threw for 49 TDs last year, you can bet opposing defenses will be keying much more on Indy's passing game than before, which should create opportunities for Edge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avernus Posted July 31, 2005 Share Posted July 31, 2005 I'd actually take Priest....a little while ago, I'd have Priest at 7th...but now, I'm thinking I'd just draft LJ as a handcuff and make sure I secure that backfield... Even if I have to take him at the 7th spot, you have to be confident in your drafting and make sure you secure the focal points on your team...which would be Priest...so, locking that up would be ideal for you... Edge is streaky...while Holmes can make an average team a playoff contender when healthy, especially locking up his back-up...who is no slouch either... seems like a no-brainer now that I look at it.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balzac Posted July 31, 2005 Share Posted July 31, 2005 You guys really think that blowing an otherwise valuable 5th round pick on a handcuff RB is worth it? That's an excellent TE or a solid 2nd tier WR that you're losing just to corner the KC RB. I just don't see how it's worth it - blowing a valuable mid-round pick like that is nothing to sneeze at. Most handcuffs can generally be got in the late rounds . . . Actually, as opposed to taking Holmes and LJ, I think you'd be better off taking Edge and then LJ in the 5th - this way you'd have either (a) another sick RB if Priest gets hurt or ( very valuable trade bait for the Holmes owner in your league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avernus Posted August 1, 2005 Share Posted August 1, 2005 You guys really think that blowing an otherwise valuable 5th round pick on a handcuff RB is worth it? That's an excellent TE or a solid 2nd tier WR that you're losing just to corner the KC RB. I just don't see how it's worth it - blowing a valuable mid-round pick like that is nothing to sneeze at. Most handcuffs can generally be got in the late rounds . . . Actually, as opposed to taking Holmes and LJ, I think you'd be better off taking Edge and then LJ in the 5th - this way you'd have either (a) another sick RB if Priest gets hurt or ( very valuable trade bait for the Holmes owner in your league. 903476[/snapback] you don't have to take LJ in the 5th...rather the 7th or 8th...why take Edge and hope Holmes gets hurt when you can have the best fantasy ground game on your roster from the jump... I would hate having a back who doesn't even get half the looks inside the 20.... Edge was a top fantasy performer and all..but he's no Priest with the offense he's in...they are a pass 1st offense...KC is a run 1st...it's too easy.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balzac Posted August 1, 2005 Share Posted August 1, 2005 you don't have to take LJ in the 5th...rather the 7th or 8th...why take Edge and hope Holmes gets hurt when you can have the best fantasy ground game on your roster from the jump... I would hate having a back who doesn't even get half the looks inside the 20.... Edge was a top fantasy performer and all..but he's no Priest with the offense he's in...they are a pass 1st offense...KC is a run 1st...it's too easy.. 903606[/snapback] If you're in a league with people who are using cheat sheets from this and comparable sites, you'll have to take him in the 5th. Anyway, my point wasn't that I'd recommend drafting Edge and LJ, rather that I'd prefer taking those 2 than Priest and LJ b/c it gives you more opportunities. Regardless of the offense, Edge gives you 2000 total yards and 10 TDs - I have little confidence that Holmes will be able to match that this year (could it happen? sure) and just don't think it's worth spending an extra 5th to make sure that I'm covered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardrocker Posted August 1, 2005 Share Posted August 1, 2005 A healthy Priest has averaged head and shoulders above all runningbacks in fantasy points on a per game average... But he cant score when he doesnt play. I personally believe that you need to pick Holmes if you have faith in him. But you need to pick someone else if you feel compelled to handcuff his backup. You can make a credible arguement to take others besides Holmes and Edge...D Davis and J. Lewis just to name two. I think you go with your gut and take the guy you want there. I have 4th pick in my local and I will face the same decision. I wont take someone from a list there...I think this year there are too many people with huge upside to feel totally confident in rankings. I plan to take the guy that I believe in. Good Luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avernus Posted August 1, 2005 Share Posted August 1, 2005 regardless of who I take in the 1st...that early, I'm handcuffing them..period.. I'd rather get the better performer...not someone who gets snubbed in favor of the QB 7 out of 10 attempts when inside the 5... Holmes is and has been a stud, even after injuries...Edge has just been "almost as good" as what he was before his injury a couple years back... I dunno...I just don't see an argument for Edge over Holmes, especially when you can handcuff...and if a 7th round pick is making that much of a difference...then I don't know what to say. I think LJ is a better pick than most at that point.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chires Posted August 1, 2005 Author Share Posted August 1, 2005 Thanks for all th advise Boys!! Good Stuff! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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