Guest THEbigred Posted August 3, 2005 Share Posted August 3, 2005 (edited) Totally agree. Thinking McGahee (iffy QB) and J. Jones (can't handle the load Parcells will give him) are the likely candidates. Kevin Jones ripped off HUGE gains and made them look easy late in the season. 906797[/snapback] Yeah. Against some of the worst run Ds in the league. lmao @ this thread. I like Jones more or less, but wt-f, one quote from yahoo (??) and a few good games at the end of the year and suddenly he's the next LT? I wish you could convince my co-owners of all this; I could drive his price up to silly levels. Edited August 3, 2005 by THEbigred Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuleBritannia Posted August 3, 2005 Share Posted August 3, 2005 (edited) Everyone's a stud in training camp. Edited August 3, 2005 by RuleBritannia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swampnuts Posted August 3, 2005 Share Posted August 3, 2005 Every year players step up to become big time studs in FF, and the same number of so-called studs fall from grace to become busts or average. Look at Jamal Lewis, Ahman Green, and Ricky Williams for example. They've all had monster years mixed in with mediocre years in the past 3 seasons. Jones could be the next big break. I personally think Kevin has the ability and type of offense to be "that guy" this year, but it's all in what you believe. I thought William Green was a can't miss pick back in 03 and it cost me big, but I've also picked a lot more booms than busts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiefjay Posted August 3, 2005 Share Posted August 3, 2005 Harrington. 'Nuf said. 906731[/snapback] As a Lions fan everything we say has a touch of sarcasm in it, it's natural at this point except for the true slappies who actually believe that crap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikesVikes Posted August 3, 2005 Share Posted August 3, 2005 (edited) His market has went up as of today in drafts. He's now considered first round material ahead of Dillon, Barber, & Lewis. I love to find the new break out players as much as anybody but let's take a step back and consider what he did last year. He had a 200 yard game and a 150 yard game with a few 100 yard games thrown in to finish the season. He had zero multiple td games. Will he score 2-3 tds in games at least once a month? I don't see it. On a side note, has anyone noticed Jason Hanson's scoring before and after Kevin Jones in the lineup? Amazing difference there. Move Jones up a little, and move a very good kicker with more opportunities up even more from where he's ranked on the list. That's the excitement for the day. You get to pick Jason Hanson over Josh Brown. Julius Jones had multiple td games last year. Parcells has a terrible poker face and he looked like he was dealt 3 aces after watching him run. Edited August 3, 2005 by MikesVikes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avernus Posted August 3, 2005 Author Share Posted August 3, 2005 His market has went up as of today in drafts. He's now considered first round material ahead of Dillon, Barber, & Lewis. I love to find the new break out players as much as anybody but let's take a step back and consider what he did last year. He had a 200 yard game and a 150 yard game with a few 100 yard games thrown in to finish the season. He had zero multiple td games. Will he score 2-3 tds in games at least once a month? I don't see it. On a side note, has anyone noticed Jason Hanson's scoring before and after Kevin Jones in the lineup? Amazing difference there. Move Lewis up a little, and move a very good kicker with more opps up even more from where he's ranked on the list. That's the excitement for the day. You get to pick Jason Hanson over Josh Brown. Julius Jones had multiple td games last year. Parcells has a terrible poker face and he looked like he was dealt 3 aces after watching him run. 907941[/snapback] I said the same thing about Deshaun Foster before last year after he barely played for 10 games and then came in late in the season to run everybody over... Jones was in the lineup basically all season and just had trouble hitting the holes...I've seen plenty backs come in late in the season for one reason or another and just run all over the place....then do nothing the following season.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trrhyne Posted August 3, 2005 Share Posted August 3, 2005 I have been burned too many times with young guys who take over at the end of the year and have monster stats the last 4-6 weeks of the year. Kevan Barlow and William Green come to mind immediately. KJ and JJ are good, but they have not proven themselves yet to be called "stud" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikesVikes Posted August 3, 2005 Share Posted August 3, 2005 I don't care if a player is from a division rival or not. I'd play 4 or 5 Packers if it meant a W instead of a L. Which I've done before by the way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeler Posted August 3, 2005 Share Posted August 3, 2005 Jones was in the lineup basically all season and just had trouble hitting the holes...907967[/snapback] Don't forget that he was hurt for the first half of last season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spain Posted August 3, 2005 Share Posted August 3, 2005 Don't forget that he was hurt for the first half of last season. 908001[/snapback] What injury problems did he have last year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avernus Posted August 3, 2005 Author Share Posted August 3, 2005 Don't forget that he was hurt for the first half of last season. 908001[/snapback] I was talking about Kevin Jones when I said that....I had already mentioned how Julius missed like 10 games... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiefjay Posted August 3, 2005 Share Posted August 3, 2005 I was talking about Kevin Jones when I said that....I had already mentioned how Julius missed like 10 games... 908107[/snapback] KJ was hurt too, had a bad ankle for a long time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goopster24 Posted August 3, 2005 Share Posted August 3, 2005 I would love to draft KJ but it's hard for me to say that he deserves a first round selection in a deep league. I would feel kinda iffy if he was my No. 1 back. That said, I hope I get him as a 2nd RB. I am rooting for hiim to have a good year; he was awesome at VT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avernus Posted August 3, 2005 Author Share Posted August 3, 2005 KJ was hurt too, had a bad ankle for a long time. 908117[/snapback] he didnt miss any games.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiefjay Posted August 3, 2005 Share Posted August 3, 2005 (edited) he didnt miss any games.. 908187[/snapback] yeah but if he was 100% he would have been hitting those holes you mentioned he wasn't hitting. Once he got closer to 100%, he hit those holes and he hit them hard only having to beat a line backer or safety to get 20 yards or so. My guess is close to 1700 yards this year. Edited August 3, 2005 by chiefjay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avernus Posted August 3, 2005 Author Share Posted August 3, 2005 yeah but if he was 100% he would have been hitting those holes you mentioned he wasn't hitting. Once he got closer to 100%, he hit those holes and he hit them hard only having to beat a line backer or safety to get 20 yards or so. My guess is close to 1700 yards this year. 908199[/snapback] julius for 1700?...ur nuts...kevin is likely Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avernus Posted August 3, 2005 Author Share Posted August 3, 2005 chiefjay...I am on the kevin jones bandwagon...you misunderstood the 1st post you quoted me from or whatever... I am NOT for Julius but AM for Kevin.... I just realized that you seem to be misunderstanding me...I was saying that Kevin started off the season just not seeing the holes and when he finally did...he was killing opposing defenses... I saw him when he played the Eagles and kept trying to kick it outside and he was horrible... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiefjay Posted August 3, 2005 Share Posted August 3, 2005 chiefjay...I am on the kevin jones bandwagon...you misunderstood the 1st post you quoted me from or whatever... I am NOT for Julius but AM for Kevin.... I just realized that you seem to be misunderstanding me...I was saying that Kevin started off the season just not seeing the holes and when he finally did...he was killing opposing defenses... I saw him when he played the Eagles and kept trying to kick it outside and he was horrible... 908234[/snapback] I hear ya, just trying to make a point about the ankle and hitting holes, but your right, he was taking too many carries outside early in the year thinking he could out run OLB's Safeties, and even Ends, once he realized he need to cut back and find the hole he was awesome. That said, I like Julius as well this year, if I'm in the middle or the end of a draft, I would like to get a RB combo like JJ or KJ, but I doubt that'll happen now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avernus Posted August 3, 2005 Author Share Posted August 3, 2005 I hear ya, just trying to make a point about the ankle and hitting holes, but your right, he was taking too many carries outside early in the year thinking he could out run OLB's Safeties, and even Ends, once he realized he need to cut back and find the hole he was awesome. That said, I like Julius as well this year, if I'm in the middle or the end of a draft, I would like to get a RB combo like JJ or KJ, but I doubt that'll happen now. 908247[/snapback] it's possible in a 10 team league... I know people who have both of them in their top 10...so that means players like Deuce and Rudi will slip to me if I draft later... I've almost been anticipating the chance to draft late, but I'll probably be slotted between 4-7 as usual... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klay Posted August 3, 2005 Share Posted August 3, 2005 darn I thought this topic was Kevin Jones is dropping draws... This could be an excellant pick late in the first. I still would pick S Jackson over him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KUBJPO01 Posted August 3, 2005 Share Posted August 3, 2005 I'm drafting #5 in a 10 team performance league, any chance of getting him at 15 overall in 2nd round? THoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtomicCEO Posted August 3, 2005 Share Posted August 3, 2005 darn I thought this topic was Kevin Jones is dropping draws... 908333[/snapback] I thought maybe he bowled over Ron Jaworski on the sidelines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avernus Posted August 3, 2005 Author Share Posted August 3, 2005 darn I thought this topic was Kevin Jones is dropping draws... This could be an excellant pick late in the first. I still would pick S Jackson over him 908333[/snapback] well, KJ doesn't have a future HoF'er that will be stealing touches whenever he can...not that it'll be even a 70-30 ratio in st.l...but ya just don't know.. KJ is their clear cut starter and will be even more involved in the passing game...he's also taken over Bryson's position as the 3rd down back for passing plays... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avernus Posted August 3, 2005 Author Share Posted August 3, 2005 I'm drafting #5 in a 10 team performance league, any chance of getting him at 15 overall in 2nd round? THoughts? 908366[/snapback] good luck with that one :doah: ...it's wishful thinking, but I've seen him go as early as 6th... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clubfoothead Posted August 3, 2005 Share Posted August 3, 2005 Call me when you guys figure out who yer talking about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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