Hiphopanonamous Posted August 7, 2005 Share Posted August 7, 2005 I wanna say something. Im going to put this out there; if you like it, you can take it, if you dont, send it right back. Anyway with Pinkston going down(could have been a lot worse) and the Eagles not haveing much depth at receiver anyway (besides up and coming Greg Lewis), does anyone else think that the person who will benefit most from this will be TE L. J Smith? Chad Lewis will no longer be there, and Smith has already been an red-zone target of McNabb, I already had him pegged as a sleeper, and for any league that requires at TE I just think he will be a steal in the later rounds. One of the only things that really makes him a bit of a risk is his cronic back injury. Just wondering if any of the best minds of fantasy football could shed more light on my potential starting TE for the 2005 Team Hiphopanonamous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruffian Posted August 7, 2005 Share Posted August 7, 2005 Well, considering all the problems the Eagles are having just getting people onto the field, LJ Smith SHOULD catch more passes. Who is there to compete with? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Score 1 Posted August 7, 2005 Share Posted August 7, 2005 (edited) Check this thread started a couple of days ago. There's 2 pages with some observations on Stinkston's possible replacement(s). Some of the posts are cracks on Stinkston, but there's quite a few in there which are relevant to what you ask. As for me, I think the two most likely to benefit from Stinkston going down, will be Greg Lewis & Reggie Brown. L. J. Smith will benefit from the abscence of Chad Lewis. I don't think L. J. Smith will be given Stinkston's WR routes and thus don't see how Stinkston going down benefits him. Edited August 7, 2005 by Big Score 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swampnuts Posted August 7, 2005 Share Posted August 7, 2005 I don't wish injury on anyone, but Pinkston is horrible. Why he was even a starter to begin with is beyond me. Reggie Brown should progress through camp to be the opposite starter, with Lewis remaining the #3. Pinkston is no loss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hiphopanonamous Posted August 7, 2005 Author Share Posted August 7, 2005 I wouldnt expect Smith to get Pinkstons routes thats just crazyness, But QBs tend to look for certain WRs, And although Owens will still be #1, McNabb had played with Pinkston for years, and I would think that in his absense there would be a small hole to fill in McNabbs mind on people he can go to when he cant get the ball to Owens. With Greg Lewis stepping up it adds speed to stretch the field, Owens will draw most of the coverage, LBs will also have to mind the RBs coming out of the backfied. And again McNabb already looks for Smith in the red-zone, so this might be an opportunity to add some more TDs but maybe a lot more yards which would really increase his value as a TE. Not looking for him to fill the spot of a WR, just thinking he might jump up a tier and be one of the better TEs this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Score 1 Posted August 7, 2005 Share Posted August 7, 2005 I hear what you're saying Hiphopanonamous, it's just that I don't think Stinkston going down, will be a factor for any up tick in L. J. Smith's numbers. However, the absence of Chad Lewis certainly will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avernus Posted August 7, 2005 Share Posted August 7, 2005 I don't wish injury on anyone, but Pinkston is horrible. Why he was even a starter to begin with is beyond me. Reggie Brown should progress through camp to be the opposite starter, with Lewis remaining the #3. Pinkston is no loss. 914973[/snapback] I think it's because of the contract they gave him...he had to start... also...I have said Greg Lewis would benefit the most...but now I think Brown, just because he would have been the #4 and had limited PT....he's going from very limited packages to just about a regular wideout... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avernus Posted August 7, 2005 Share Posted August 7, 2005 I hear what you're saying Hiphopanonamous, it's just that I don't think Stinkston going down, will be a factor for any up tick in L. J. Smith's numbers. However, the absence of Chad Lewis certainly will. 915007[/snapback] I agree....Smith is going to get what he was originally going to get....Stinky usually only caught deep passes....so those plays would basically be drawn up for him specifically.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hiphopanonamous Posted August 7, 2005 Author Share Posted August 7, 2005 Well Chad Lewis' absense goes without saying, I know the idea may be out there, but when it comes down to it I see the situation only helping his stats, it really cant hurt. And at the end of the season I will either be at peace cause I didnt draft him and I was wrong, or I did and I was right, or I will find Saddam's hole that he hid in and since he isnt using it these days Ill hid there after I lose the championship from a Smith TD. But anyway win or lose we are all going out for icecream. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notamomo Posted August 7, 2005 Share Posted August 7, 2005 I don't wish injury on anyone, but Pinkston is horrible. Why he was even a starter to begin with is beyond me. Reggie Brown should progress through camp to be the opposite starter, with Lewis remaining the #3. Pinkston is no loss. 914973[/snapback] I hate defending anyone with the pencil-neck and alligator arms of Pnikston, but....he did lead the league in yards per catach, averaging, I think, 18 ypc. He was also 2nd on the Eagles in yardage for the season. Never a big TD threat, Pinkston did stretch the field in a BIG way, keeping drives alive and opening up underneath routes for Westbrook. I also suggested early-on that LJ would see a bump, mostly b/c he's the only receiver in camp (since TO hurt his nards) who's had a chance to develop any kind of rapport with McNabb. I think this points to a down year for McNabb and I predict he has a hard time cracking the top 5 QBs, maybe even top ten. quote=notamomo,8/5/05 10:26pm] Let's Review: Eagles top receivers from last season: Terrell Owens- not a happy camper, and I'm not convinced that he plays his season Brian Westbrook- not a camper at all. Doesn't look good right now. Todd Pinkston- Done for the year. Freddie Mitchell- In KC L.J. Smith- Big bump for LJ? Chad Lewis- still busted up. IS McNabb really a top-tier QB with this mess going on with the Eagles O? I wouldn't take him unless he seriously falls. Not looking good in Eagles camp right now. 912896[/snapback] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avernus Posted August 7, 2005 Share Posted August 7, 2005 Greg Lewis has developed chemistry with McNabb...and I believe he's better than Pinkston... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hiphopanonamous Posted August 7, 2005 Author Share Posted August 7, 2005 I would have to agree with notamomo in almost every aspect, but just like saying that Smith will do better because of Chad Lewis being gone, in the same way Greg Lewis will do better with Pinkston out. McNabbs situation isnt looking as sweet as it did last year, but if T.O's situation gets resolved he should at least put up the numbers of his old Trash/Pinkston years, which werent terrible. And with L.J. Smith being this years Antonio Gates we are talking Super Bowl three-petes at least,..... Kidding Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avernus Posted August 7, 2005 Share Posted August 7, 2005 I would have to agree with notamomo in almost every aspect, but just like saying that Smith will do better because of Chad Lewis being gone, in the same way Greg Lewis will do better with Pinkston out. McNabbs situation isnt looking as sweet as it did last year, but if T.O's situation gets resolved he should at least put up the numbers of his old Trash/Pinkston years, which werent terrible. And with L.J. Smith being this years Antonio Gates we are talking Super Bowl three-petes at least,..... Kidding 915075[/snapback] I don't think there will be a dropoff from last season even...but that's just me... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovers Posted August 7, 2005 Share Posted August 7, 2005 Last year, Smith got hurt and never fully recovered. With Lewis gone, I do expect Smith to put up some very nice numbers if he stays healthy, and I could see him beating all the WR's, numbers-wise, other than Owens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notamomo Posted August 7, 2005 Share Posted August 7, 2005 I don't think there will be a dropoff from last season even...but that's just me... 915108[/snapback] A lot depends on the Westbook situation. His skills are special in the offense they ran last year. He'll be hard to replace. In my league scoring last year, McNabb was the #3 QB, 45 points ahead of...Plummer, and over 100 behind Manning and C-Pep. In 2003 he was #13. In 2002 he was #12. I think we're going to see him back close close to #10 and not in the top 5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruffian Posted August 7, 2005 Share Posted August 7, 2005 Greg Lewis has developed chemistry with McNabb...and I believe he's better than Pinkston... 915057[/snapback] Pinkston=way overrated Lewis has talent, so this may be his chance to shine. Or it could be his chance to slip. Feel the heat, Greg. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avernus Posted August 7, 2005 Share Posted August 7, 2005 A lot depends on the Westbook situation. His skills are special in the offense they ran last year. He'll be hard to replace. In my league scoring last year, McNabb was the #3 QB, 45 points ahead of...Plummer, and over 100 behind Manning and C-Pep. In 2003 he was #13. In 2002 he was #12. I think we're going to see him back close close to #10 and not in the top 5. 915125[/snapback] I don't think Westy is an issue....especially if what I said in the Westy thread comes true... If he doesn't report on monday, that means he just doesn't feel like participating in camp and will sign the long term deal they laid on the table... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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