Deacon Frost Posted August 9, 2005 Share Posted August 9, 2005 Check out my sig for my roster which shows position as well as round drafted. I admit that I fully intended to pick up LJ to go with Priest but I got sidetracked in picking up other players and completely forgot. Somebody else got him in the 10th round. I like Larry Johnson...good, solid back w/ the potential to be outstanding very soon. The question I'm asking myself, though, is do I like him MORE than Ronnie Brown or Chris Brown (also picked up Marshall Faulk and Fason but both need injuries to someone else to be factors)? A full-time Larry Johnson might be better than either Brown full time but not by much in my mind. If Ronnie gets into camp he's almost a lock to start the first 4 games in Miami. As far as Chris Brown, while injury-prone, he has big upside for some very big games...Henry's steadier but Brown is far more explosive. Did I make that big of a mistake in not getting Larry? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roo Posted August 9, 2005 Share Posted August 9, 2005 If the other coach took him in the 10th, he might be willing to give him up in a trade for not too much. I think it's worth insuring Priest, and I'd certainly be willing to give up C. Brown for that, especially considering your depth at RB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caveman_Nick Posted August 9, 2005 Share Posted August 9, 2005 Check out my sig for my roster which shows position as well as round drafted. I admit that I fully intended to pick up LJ to go with Priest but I got sidetracked in picking up other players and completely forgot. Somebody else got him in the 10th round. I like Larry Johnson...good, solid back w/ the potential to be outstanding very soon. The question I'm asking myself, though, is do I like him MORE than Ronnie Brown or Chris Brown (also picked up Marshall Faulk and Fason but both need injuries to someone else to be factors)? A full-time Larry Johnson might be better than either Brown full time but not by much in my mind. If Ronnie gets into camp he's almost a lock to start the first 4 games in Miami. As far as Chris Brown, while injury-prone, he has big upside for some very big games...Henry's steadier but Brown is far more explosive. Did I make that big of a mistake in not getting Larry? 917983[/snapback] Larry Johnson only averaged over 30 fantasy points per start last season in 1/10, 6 pts per TD leagues. No big deal, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weasel Posted August 9, 2005 Share Posted August 9, 2005 I asume that you will start 2 RBs so, it is a good idea to get another starting RB. The only problem I have with R. Brown is that if he struggles he will probably at least lose some carreis when Ricky comes back. Also, C. Brown is injury prone, so I hope you picked up Henry. I would try and trade for L. Johnson, perhaps for a WR or QB. L. Johnson exploded when he was in there. I think you wil have a tough time trading for him, unless you give up a starter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dingos Posted August 9, 2005 Share Posted August 9, 2005 no difference b/t Ronnie Brown and LJ as a starter? Are ya kiddin' me? LJ is a top 10 back if he's the starter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLGRAF Posted August 9, 2005 Share Posted August 9, 2005 Having LJ to handcuff Priest is a MUST, IMO. If you have both, you are guaranteed to have a top 7-8 fantasy RB all year, no matter what happens. Make a deal for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gijunky Posted August 9, 2005 Share Posted August 9, 2005 Did I make that big of a mistake in not getting Larry? 917983[/snapback] You HAVE to get LJ if you can. Priest will miss some time this year...C. Brown will be battling Henry for the job all year, and I doubt that he will stay healthy. If you can grab LJ, go get him, and don't look back. When you are starting him in week 13 for the injured Holmes, or if KC clinches the west early, then you will be smiling at your good fortune. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vote Quimby2 Posted August 10, 2005 Share Posted August 10, 2005 Having LJ to handcuff Priest is a MUST, IMO. If you have both, you are guaranteed to have a top 7-8 fantasy RB all year, no matter what happens. Make a deal for him. 918539[/snapback] what he said Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenokee Posted August 10, 2005 Share Posted August 10, 2005 Here's what being reported out of the Chiefs camp........ August 8, 2005 Bob Gretz, the sideline reporter for the Chiefs Radio Network, has been at training camp every day. Gretz says the "star of this camp so far has been Larry Johnson" and that he's shown an amazing combination of speed and toughness. "In goal line and red zone situations, he’s exploding after the handoff, like he’s been shot off the deck of an aircraft carrier by some giant catapult," Gretz said. And unlike Jason Whitlock at the Kansas City Star, Gretz has always been a huge Priest Holmes fan and supported him through the injuries. We've already heard about Johnson's increased workoad while Holmes skips "one" out of each "two-a-day" so after reading Gretz' remarks it might be time to investigate into what HC Dick Vermeil truly plans to do with his backs in 2005. August 6, 2005 The Associated Press reports Chiefs RB Larry Johnson is actually taking as many reps as RB Priest Holmes during "two-a-days" because Holmes continues to sit out one practice per day. Once the regular season begins, Johnson is expected to claim a much bigger share of the load than he has ever had. "I think it's absolutely important to get Larry (more involved)," Holmes added. "I think it would make our team stronger." I'd be talking to the LJ owner to secure his services as soon as possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrenaline Posted August 10, 2005 Share Posted August 10, 2005 You should have been looking at LJ when you took R.Brown in the 6th, if you can get him for C.Brown I think your lucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FredGSanford Posted August 10, 2005 Share Posted August 10, 2005 How many teams in this league? How did you get both Holmes and J. Lewis? If they both stay healthy you have already won your championship, IMHO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deacon Frost Posted August 11, 2005 Author Share Posted August 11, 2005 Thanks, Fred. 10 team league. I almost fell out when Jamal Lewis was still there with the 15th overall pick (got Priest at #6...snake draft). I was one pick away from getting Chad Johnson at #26 but settled for Javon Walker and was again shocked when I looked up and saw Joe Horn still sitting there at #35 in the 4th round. Thanks, all for bringing me to my senses. I typically have better RB depth than this but Walker, Horn, and Bulger in rds 3,4,&5 got the best of me early on when I saw starters that I really wanted in all 3 rounds. The guy I'd need to trade with also drafted Travis Henry so I'm hoping an LJ/Brown swap will make him happy since he'd be locking up the Tennessee starter and a guy who would start the season as a much more likely starter (C. Brown over LJ). I'm still a little concerned that I'll be left with a holding out Ronnie Brown as a starter when early bye weeks get me in weeks #3 & #5 with Priest and Jamal...but I did it to myself so there's no one to blame but me. How many teams in this league? How did you get both Holmes and J. Lewis? If they both stay healthy you have already won your championship, IMHO. 919568[/snapback] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLGRAF Posted August 11, 2005 Share Posted August 11, 2005 If LJ is going to get more work this year, and you have both he and Priest on your team, it might be worth starting both of them during weeks when the Chiefs play really bad teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeler Posted August 11, 2005 Share Posted August 11, 2005 In what round was LJ drafted? I need that info before I can say if you made a mistake or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deacon Frost Posted August 11, 2005 Author Share Posted August 11, 2005 10th round of 17. If you check my sig, you can see which round I drafted my players in as well. In what round was LJ drafted? I need that info before I can say if you made a mistake or not. 921564[/snapback] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NavinRJohnson Posted August 11, 2005 Share Posted August 11, 2005 Relax...you did fine. In a 10 team league there are too many good players on the board to worry about handcuffing. Now if it were a 12 team league, I'd say you F'd up! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeler Posted August 11, 2005 Share Posted August 11, 2005 (edited) 10th round of 17. 921572[/snapback] I think you did mess up then.... You could have taken him in the 8th for example.. I would rather have guaranteed the KC rushing attack for the year with that pick instead of another RB who is potentially in a RBBC (although C. Brown should be the starter). The team still looks decent thought. Edited August 11, 2005 by steeler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffeeman Posted August 11, 2005 Share Posted August 11, 2005 (edited) Put it this way: in my 12-team league I'm going 1st with LT, but if I can snake LJ away from the guy who gets Holmes, I'll be laughing all the way to the bank. He'll be my 3rd RB to target in round 6-7. If he's gone, I'll go after LToefield, cuz Fragile Taylor will not last 5 games, guaranteed. If they're both gone, I'll have to settle for a MFaulk, RDroughns or THenry. And I'll be disappointed... Edited August 11, 2005 by Coffeeman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NavinRJohnson Posted August 11, 2005 Share Posted August 11, 2005 Put it this way: in my 12-team league I'm going 1st with LT, but if I can snake LJ away from the guy who gets Holmes, I'll be laughing all the way to the bank. He'll be my 3rd RB to target in round 6-7. If he's gone, I'll go after LToefield, cuz Fragile Taylor will not last 5 games, guaranteed. If they're both gone, I'll have to settle for a MFaulk, RDroughns or THenry. And I'll be disappointed... 921679[/snapback] ...and you'll get him too. No way I'm using a #5 on LJ in a 12 team league if I've got Priest. Maybe a 6. A thread within a thread...What round would you take LJ in if you were a Priest owner? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffeeman Posted August 11, 2005 Share Posted August 11, 2005 (edited) ...and you'll get him too. No way I'm using a #5 on LJ in a 12 team league if I've got Priest. Maybe a 6. A thread within a thread...What round would you take LJ in if you were a Priest owner? 921700[/snapback] You're right - most sane folks would be getting their QBs and #2 RB or WR in Rds 4-5. So the big Q for Holmes owners is this: is LJ worth your #2 RB pick, or do you take someone else (#15-16 ranked guy like SJackson, LJordan,) and hope you can get LJ later? Ah, but that means getting him in Rd 6 for (likely) two RBs in a row, and that means giving up on a low Tier 2/top T3 WR to do it. I'd probably go for LJ in Rd 6-7 as a Holmes owner. Which means for me (as a LT owner - ah, that sounds so nice) I need to get him at one of my 6.12/7.1 slots, or he'll likely be gone. Now that I think about it more, other smart guys in my league will snap him up in the 4th or 5th, I'm sure of it. So the Holmes owner and I will be aced out. Oh well, my strategy is not changing totally just to pick him up. From my #1 slot I'll be going 1.1=RB, 2.12/3.1=RB/WR, 4.12/5.1=QB/WR, 6.12/7.1=RB/TE. Whoever is still there for my RB3 at the end of Rd 6 is mine, but it might not be LJ or Toefield. My strategy is almost in stone at this point, as I know who should be around in each case... Edited August 11, 2005 by Coffeeman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clubfoothead Posted August 11, 2005 Share Posted August 11, 2005 Somebody else got him in the 10th round. 917983[/snapback] I was fully prepared to say you did not make a mistake. Then I re-read yer post to determine when Johnson went. I think you probably did. Brown is a good pick in the 8th round. Unless Johnson is there and you used yer #1 on Holmes. Hopefully it won't cost you anything. I've got Holmes in a 3 keeper league and I'm concerned about how early a pick I'm going to have to use on Johnson. Good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big John Posted August 11, 2005 Share Posted August 11, 2005 I drafted Priest hoping to handcuff LJ as early as the 5th round. CaptHook took LJ in the 4th round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffeeman Posted August 12, 2005 Share Posted August 12, 2005 I drafted Priest hoping to handcuff LJ as early as the 5th round. CaptHook took LJ in the 4th round. 922373[/snapback] Here's hoping for a healthy, productive year for Mr. Holmes... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicker Posted August 12, 2005 Share Posted August 12, 2005 Two of KC's 10 time probowlers on the offensive line will most likely retire next year. This is an aging O line, not to mention an ading offense. Will LJ be as good as he is now, later when the O is not as good? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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