tobias1237 Posted August 15, 2005 Share Posted August 15, 2005 I am in a league of 10 and I have the ninth pick. I am pretty sure I will get Dillon with my first pick, but when my second comes around I am pretty sure Dom Davis and Kevin Jones will be available. Our scoring gives one point for every catch. Who would you guys pick? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yo mama Posted August 15, 2005 Share Posted August 15, 2005 (edited) I am in a league of 10 and I have the ninth pick. I am pretty sure I will get Dillon with my first pick, but when my second comes around I am pretty sure Dom Davis and Kevin Jones will be available. Our scoring gives one point for every catch. Who would you guys pick? 929092[/snapback] Not Dillon with my 1st, that's for sure. He's a rock solid #2 RB, but you can get more upside with Davis or K. Jones at 1.9, with no appriciable drop off in stability, and *still* get Dillon in the 2nd. That's probably not going to be true of either Davis or Jones. If I'm at 1.10/2.1 and those guys fell to me, I'd take them both. And then laugh in your face. Edited August 15, 2005 by yo mama Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tobias1237 Posted August 15, 2005 Author Share Posted August 15, 2005 I am a Patriots fan so it is a homer pick. But the other problem is Jones and Davis both have their byes in week 3. So who would you rather have out of the two? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tobias1237 Posted August 15, 2005 Author Share Posted August 15, 2005 And the guy behind me said he was probably going to take Culpepper and Portis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balzac Posted August 15, 2005 Share Posted August 15, 2005 If you get 1 point for every catch, Dillon should be kicked down a few slots on your draft board - he simply doesn't make a lot of catches out of the backfield. If DD is available at your #9 pick, grab him. If Dillon and KJ are both there on the 12th, take KJ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yo mama Posted August 15, 2005 Share Posted August 15, 2005 I am a Patriots fan so it is a homer pick. But the other problem is Jones and Davis both have their byes in week 3. So who would you rather have out of the two? 929113[/snapback] I know when their bye weeks are. But I wouldn't care. To quote another Huddler, "are you drafting a team to be as strong as possible during the bye weeks, or as strong as possible during the playoffs?" I'd still take Jones and Davis. But to answer your question, I'd draft K. Jones first. The receptions really help Dom's numbers out over a full season. But I think Jones has less risk and more long term upside, if this is a keeper league. Target Dillon in the 2nd, if you want to. I'll be shocked if he isn't there. And if someone else does draft him before you, that just means someone even better fell in your lap, is all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tobias1237 Posted August 15, 2005 Author Share Posted August 15, 2005 I know its not the smartest thing to do, but I just want to have Dillon. So you thinking Davis over Jones? The things I am thinking about is that Daivs in kind of injury proned, the strength of schedule against the run for the Lions is the second worst (bad defenses), and Davis might not get as many carries. I think I might be leaning more towards Jones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balzac Posted August 15, 2005 Share Posted August 15, 2005 I am a Patriots fan so it is a homer pick. But the other problem is Jones and Davis both have their byes in week 3. So who would you rather have out of the two? 929113[/snapback] I'm a huge Pats fan as well, but I'd take either of those 2 over Dillon. If you're hugely concerned about DD's health, take Jones. I think the 2 will be somewhat comparable, but either is a fine pick at 1.09. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Country Posted August 15, 2005 Share Posted August 15, 2005 I am a Patriots fan so it is a homer pick. But the other problem is Jones and Davis both have their byes in week 3. So who would you rather have out of the two? 929113[/snapback] Being a Patriots homer doesn't make Dillon a good pick that early, it just helps your opponents by letting better players fall to them. I'm with yo mama, depending on any surprise picks ahead of me, I would go KJones with the 9 then hope to get DDavis in the 2nd assuming the 10 slot does go Portis and Cpep. There bye weeks are of minimal concern if they are the best available players at those picks in your opinion. If you must have Dillon, then at least wait till the 2nd orund to take him. Grabbing him at 9 really does not help you and can only hurt you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLGRAF Posted August 15, 2005 Share Posted August 15, 2005 Of the RBs you mentioned, I would pick Davis first, since you do get points for receptions. After that, if I were choosing between Jones and Dillon, I'd take Jones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tobias1237 Posted August 15, 2005 Author Share Posted August 15, 2005 It is not a keeper league Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roo Posted August 15, 2005 Share Posted August 15, 2005 (edited) I don't think Dillon at #9 is a bad pick at all. He's steady, proven, and healthy and always gets solid scoring ops. Then if you can trust your boy who said he's going Pepper and Portis, great - take K. Jones and sit pretty. I like that RB combo a ton. DD is great too, but comes with a little more risk - not that he's unworthy of a first round pick either - they are all solid picks. I think this is a rare situation where you can use a little homerism to make your decision. Edited August 15, 2005 by Roo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skrappy1 Posted August 15, 2005 Share Posted August 15, 2005 If you get 1 point for every catch, Dillon should be kicked down a few slots on your draft board - he simply doesn't make a lot of catches out of the backfield. If DD is available at your #9 pick, grab him. If Dillon and KJ are both there on the 12th, take KJ. 929116[/snapback] I agree with Balzac. Dillon doesn't catch too many balls, Davis is a reception machine and would be my pick in the 1st. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balzac Posted August 15, 2005 Share Posted August 15, 2005 (edited) I don't think Dillon at #9 is a bad pick at all. He's steady, proven, and healthy and always gets solid scoring ops. Then if you can trust your boy who said he's going Pepper and Portis, great - take K. Jones and sit pretty. I like that RB combo a ton. DD is great too, but comes with a little more risk - not that he's unworthy of a first round pick either - they are all solid picks. I think this is a rare situation where you can use a little homerism to make your decision. 929180[/snapback] I think people seriously underestimate how much of a difference the 1 pt per reception is here. Dillon had 15 receptions last year. DD had 68. That's 53 points - 530 total yards or 9 TDs. You really think Dillon will make up that difference? DD was hurt for a few games last year, but he STILL scored more total TDs than Dillon and had more total yards . . . AND he had that additional 53 points. In my league last year where we got 1 pt per rec, DD blew Dillon out of the water - I think it's a no-brainer. Edit to fix my fuzzy math skills. Edited August 15, 2005 by Balzac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tobias1237 Posted August 15, 2005 Author Share Posted August 15, 2005 There is a chance Dillion could go the pick before me. If I have to choose, KJ or DD? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Country Posted August 15, 2005 Share Posted August 15, 2005 There is a chance Dillion could go the pick before me. If I have to choose, KJ or DD? 929207[/snapback] Because of you letting your homerism override looking at the numbers, this is likely the best thing that could happen to you. I go back and forth on which one ot take first, but, if the #10 guy definitely gos Portis/Cpep, then it won't matter. But, I think I prefer KJ just a little bit right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh 0ne Posted August 15, 2005 Share Posted August 15, 2005 (edited) If you let homerism affect your draft, you're only screwing yourself. DD and KJ are the picks to make if they're there. Of the two, I'd rather have DD. Edited August 15, 2005 by Hugh 0ne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B Man Inc Posted August 15, 2005 Share Posted August 15, 2005 If you want Dillon at #9 then take him. I would take DD over K. Jones. I'm a huge fan of both of them but DD is a little more proven than Jones. They both have huge up side this season but I would go with Davis. K. Jones had a great second half of last season. Davis did the same thing in 2003 but then he came back with a solid 2004, Jones has still only shown one half season of production. Davis has 1 1/2 seasons of solid production. Either way, go with your gut. It's a colse call, no real wrong decision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skrappy1 Posted August 15, 2005 Share Posted August 15, 2005 (edited) I think people seriously underestimate how much of a difference the 1 pt per reception is here. 929202[/snapback] I agree, and I also think an added bonus to drafting RBs who are that involved in the passing game is consistency from week to week. Virtually every RB has weeks throughout the course of the season where he gets stuffed rushing the ball, but if your guy can chip in with an additional 5 or 6 receptions for 40-50 yards receiving on those weeks, it can make all the difference...that's what made Marshall Faulk such a fantasy force for all those years, not particularly his rushing totals, but his consistency due to being heavily involved in the offense, both running and receiving and in the redzone...Davis isn't Faulk in his prime, but he does all those things well too. I think he's a great value pick late in the 1st, early in the 2nd. I'd take him over Dillon everytime, especially in a PPR league. Edited August 15, 2005 by Skrappy1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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