wiegie Posted October 20, 2005 Share Posted October 20, 2005 Congrats, Astros. WS should be good--not that anyone on the coasts will even notice it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aqualung Posted October 20, 2005 Share Posted October 20, 2005 Whoooooa! That was almost as good as an orgasm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LegFuJohnson Posted October 20, 2005 Share Posted October 20, 2005 Good job, Houston. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gilthorp Posted October 20, 2005 Share Posted October 20, 2005 Let's get it on! Congrats, Houston. I know I'll enjoy a potential pitching duel each night with low scoring games. Oswalt is scary good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiegie Posted October 20, 2005 Share Posted October 20, 2005 Let's get it on! Congrats, Houston. I know I'll enjoy a potential pitching duel each night with low scoring games. Oswalt is scary good. 1083135[/snapback] Yep--this could be a fun series for a baseball fan to watch. Part of me wants to root for the Astros, but part of me wants to root for the Sox (just to stick it to Cubs fans). Should be a very close series in any case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhino Posted October 20, 2005 Share Posted October 20, 2005 Phew! Houston is finally going! Hats off to STL. Class organization, and strong line-up, from top to bottom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Swerski Posted October 20, 2005 Share Posted October 20, 2005 WS should be good--not that anyone on the coasts will even notice it. 1083093[/snapback] Fu@k 'em. How many casual baseball fans in the Midwest or South were looking forward to a New York or Boston team playing a California team again? I didn't even bother tuning into the 2000 or 2002 WS, and I'm far from a casual fan. Part of me wants to root for the Astros, but part of me wants to root for the Sox (just to stick it to Cubs fans). 1083150[/snapback] Aside from not wanting to go up against Houston's pitching, I was pulling for the Cards for the same reason. I would've paid to see the heads of Cubs fans explode when they couldn't decide who to root against. Agreed that it's going to be a great (and low-scoring) WS. I'll be at a bar in my Sox gear, surrounded by rowdy Astros fans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiegie Posted October 20, 2005 Share Posted October 20, 2005 I was pulling for the Cards for the same reason. I would've paid to see the heads of Cubs fans explode when they couldn't decide who to root against. 1083526[/snapback] I've always laughed that a Cards/Sox WS would be a Cubs' fan's worst nightmare. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitem0nkey Posted October 20, 2005 Share Posted October 20, 2005 Congrats, Astros! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twiley Posted October 20, 2005 Share Posted October 20, 2005 Congrats to the Astros. Solid team. STL will be rooting for you in the series. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
godtomsatan Posted October 20, 2005 Share Posted October 20, 2005 Poor Astros. Even when they win a pennant, all the articles and talking heads still bring up Pujols blast from Tuesday night. This is the first WS since 2001 where I would prefer neither team wins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chavez Posted October 20, 2005 Share Posted October 20, 2005 Congrats, Astros. WS should be good--not that anyone on the coasts will even notice it. 1083093[/snapback] Houston and Chicago both are on major bodies of water. And is it just me, or is LaRussa horrifically overrated? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Swerski Posted October 20, 2005 Share Posted October 20, 2005 And is it just me, or is LaRussa horrifically overrated? 1085103[/snapback] I think it's just you. Four-time Manager of the Year, four pennants, and a ring to boot. He's taken all three teams he's coached to the playoffs, without the benefit of excessively deep-pocketed ownership. And I think he's ranked pretty high on the all-time wins list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retrograde assault Posted October 20, 2005 Share Posted October 20, 2005 I've gotten away from baseball the last few years but with a Texas team in for the first time, I'll be watching and enjoying it no matter what the outcome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Swerski Posted October 20, 2005 Share Posted October 20, 2005 I've gotten away from baseball the last few years but with a Texas team in for the first time, I'll be watching and enjoying it no matter what the outcome. 1085131[/snapback] If my Sox had to lose to any team, the Astros would be near the top of my list. Incredibly classy players and coaching. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chavez Posted October 21, 2005 Share Posted October 21, 2005 I think it's just you. Four-time Manager of the Year, four pennants, and a ring to boot. He's taken all three teams he's coached to the playoffs, without the benefit of excessively deep-pocketed ownership. And I think he's ranked pretty high on the all-time wins list. 1085129[/snapback] He DID do a great job with the Sox, but his A's and Cards teams were hardly talent-poor. As a matter of fact, here's something I cribbed from Washington DC sports feller Steve Czaban: His career record is 2213-1908 yet he's only five games above .500 in the post-season. Although it's a winning record, his string of failures go back as long as I can remember. 1983: White Sox, best record in baseball, lost ALCS 3-1 1988: Athletics, best record in baseball, W: ALCS 4-0, L: in WS 4-1 1989: Athletics, best record in baseball, W: ALCS 4-1,W:WS 4-0 1990: Athletics, best record in baseball, won ALCS 4-0, lost WS 4-0 1992: Athletics, AL West champs, lost ALCS 4-2 1996: Cardinals, NL Central champs, won NLDS 3-0, lost NLCS 4-3 2000: Cardinals, NL Central champs, won NLDS 3-0, lost NLCS 4-1 2001: Cardinals, NL Wildcard, lost NLDS 3-2 2002: Cardinals, NL Central champs, won NLDS 3-0, lost NLCS 4-1 2004: Cardinals, Best MLB Record, W:DS 3-1,W:CS 4-3,L:WS 4-0 2005: Cardinals, Best MLB Record, won NLDS 3-0, lost NLCS 4-2 He has managed a team to the best record in baseball 6 times and has only brought home the title one time. At what point is he considered an underachiever in the post-season? 8-9 in WS games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitem0nkey Posted October 21, 2005 Share Posted October 21, 2005 If my Sox had to lose to any team, the Astros would be near the top of my list. Incredibly classy players and coaching. 1085137[/snapback] Well pocket rocket Clemons is a tools, great player but a tool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Swerski Posted October 21, 2005 Share Posted October 21, 2005 (edited) He DID do a great job with the Sox, but his A's and Cards teams were hardly talent-poor. 1085229[/snapback] Talent and money are two different things. The A's teams of the late '80s/early '90s and '00-'03 had a lot of talent, but without the front office spending excessively on free agents. The difference, of course, was that LaRussa won a few pennants and a WS, but Art Howe and Ken Macha never made it past the ALCS. LaRussa's A's and Cardinals didn't have two-to-three times the payroll of the average MLB team, like Torre's Yankees. As a matter of fact, here's something I cribbed from Washington DC sports feller Steve Czaban:8-9 in WS games. Bobby Cox has only one WS victory, yet has won 14 straight division titles managing the Braves (excluding the strike-shortened '94 season). Not bad for a playoff "underachiever." Don't let your personal dislike of LaRussa cloud your judgement. He's a HOF manager. Edited October 21, 2005 by Bill Swerski Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Swerski Posted October 21, 2005 Share Posted October 21, 2005 Well pocket rocket Clemons is a tools, great player but a tool. 1085243[/snapback] He's a head-hunting pri@k on the mound, but a good guy off the field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
major-tom Posted October 21, 2005 Share Posted October 21, 2005 He's a head-hunting pri@k on the mound, but a good guy off the field. 1086214[/snapback] I have to say I didn't really care for him, especially when he was a hot head early in his career. Now that he plays for the good guys....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big John Posted October 21, 2005 Share Posted October 21, 2005 I have to say I didn't really care for him, especially when he was a hot head early in his career. Now that he plays for the good guys....... 1086698[/snapback] Did you know that the White Sox announcers frequently refer to their team as the "Good Guys"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
major-tom Posted October 21, 2005 Share Posted October 21, 2005 Did you know that the White Sox announcers frequently refer to their team as the "Good Guys"? 1086901[/snapback] Yes I've caught a few of the Sox games on WGN, although I wasn't thinking about that when I posted. Is it Hawk Harrelson that has that funny HR call? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitem0nkey Posted October 21, 2005 Share Posted October 21, 2005 Yes I've caught a few of the Sox games on WGN, although I wasn't thinking about that when I posted. Is it Hawk Harrelson that has that funny HR call? 1087024[/snapback] you can put it on the board.......YES!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Swerski Posted October 21, 2005 Share Posted October 21, 2005 Did you know that the White Sox announcers frequently refer to their team as the "Good Guys"? 1086901[/snapback] That's from the "Good Guys Wear Black" promotional slogan from the mid-90s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhino Posted October 21, 2005 Share Posted October 21, 2005 Congrats to the Astros. Solid team. STL will be rooting for you in the series. 1083948[/snapback] Thanks! We can use all the help we can get. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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