TJOLIRPH Posted October 19, 2005 Share Posted October 19, 2005 Matt Leinart gave up big money to stay in college and not be the #1 pick this year, but question whose's picking him up? Top 10 worst teams #1 Houston #2 Minny #3 Oak #4 GB #5 SF #6 Arz #7 Jets #8 NO #9 St Louis #10 tie Bal and Det (I know other have same record but I see no improvement here) So lets see Houston - Do they give up on Carr? or is it all the O-lines fault Minny - CPep only drafted if they trade Pep away Oak - It Al Davis who knows plus I see some improvement at some point GB - Rodgers in the wings SF - Smith Arz- Possible but McCown is playly well right now Jets - Don't think so to much $$$$ in Pennington NO - Good possiblity Brooks is done after this year IMO St L - Bulger not the problem Bal - Only if they finally realize that Boller sucks Det - Joey is done but I don't see them risk another #1 on a QB So IMO the earliest w/o trades I see Matt going is #5 to #7 so how much $$$ did he give up to take ballroom dancing and try for NCship #3 ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outshined Posted October 19, 2005 Share Posted October 19, 2005 (edited) Matt Leinart gave up big money to stay in college and not be the #1 pick this year, but question whose's picking him up? Minny - CPep only drafted if they trade Pep away 1080745[/snapback] What would Culpepper be worth. I bet Denny Green would give up a couple 1st round picks and Mcnown for Culpepper. I don't think the team would trade him. Although I never thought they would trade Moss either. Zygi might throw in the towel hire a new coach and clean house. Edited October 19, 2005 by Outshined Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outshined Posted October 19, 2005 Share Posted October 19, 2005 I think he goes #1 overall no matter who has the 1st pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glabra Posted October 19, 2005 Share Posted October 19, 2005 (edited) I think he goes #1 overall no matter who has the 1st pick. 1080755[/snapback] He better get used to the idea of getting hit though. He doesn't like it very much. Edited October 19, 2005 by Glabra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aqualung Posted October 19, 2005 Share Posted October 19, 2005 I'd love for Buff. to fanangle a trade to get in position for him. Maybe if they lose out the rest of the year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LooGie Posted October 19, 2005 Share Posted October 19, 2005 (edited) What would Culpepper be worth. I bet Denny Green would give up a couple 1st round picks and Mcnown for Culpepper. I don't think the team would trade him. Although I never thought they would trade Moss either. Zygi might throw in the towel hire a new coach and clean house. 1080753[/snapback] exactly! i really like the Culpepper getting traded idea. It's a perfect excuse to "clean house". you Athenacan Tice, and Culpepper, claiming "new image" and all that garbage, you get all sorts of crap for Culpepper and you grab Leinart and BOOYAH! you're 2 years away from being #1 in the NFC North. ah hell, maybe 2 weeks. i possibly see Billick getting canned and BAL grabbing him #1. Make no mistake, he's #1 2006 though. Edited October 19, 2005 by LooGie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Posted October 19, 2005 Share Posted October 19, 2005 I think Huston would trade down, so your guess is good as mine since we don't know who will be in charge there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avernus Posted October 19, 2005 Share Posted October 19, 2005 (edited) Jets Edited October 19, 2005 by Avernus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zooty Posted October 19, 2005 Share Posted October 19, 2005 I think the Jets would be the team to trade up and get him. Regardless who pikcs #1, it will be Leinart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantasy Jesus Posted October 19, 2005 Share Posted October 19, 2005 How are the Jets, who just recently signed Pennington to a 60 million dollar contarct extension, going to sign Leinart? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vansmack32 Posted October 19, 2005 Share Posted October 19, 2005 does anyone else have some "pennington-esque" questions about Leinhart's arm? i've seen him underthrow several balls this year, including a couple last week. he certainly doesn't have a cannon like carson palmer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glabra Posted October 19, 2005 Share Posted October 19, 2005 (edited) does anyone else have some "pennington-esque" questions about Leinhart's arm? i've seen him underthrow several balls this year, including a couple last week. he certainly doesn't have a cannon like carson palmer. 1081152[/snapback] good info here. Edited October 19, 2005 by Glabra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantasy Jesus Posted October 19, 2005 Share Posted October 19, 2005 The Jets would never take Leinart. The have their hearts set on taking a punter in the 1st round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blaw23 Posted October 19, 2005 Share Posted October 19, 2005 does anyone else have some "pennington-esque" questions about Leinhart's arm? i've seen him underthrow several balls this year, including a couple last week. he certainly doesn't have a cannon like carson palmer. 1081152[/snapback] I completely agree vansmack! Yes, he has been very good in college and has played on a terrific team. IMHO he is not near as good of a QB as Palmer was and I don't think he will succeed in the pros like Palmer will and is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vet Posted October 19, 2005 Share Posted October 19, 2005 (edited) How are the Jets, who just recently signed Pennington to a 60 million dollar contarct extension, going to sign Leinart? 1081149[/snapback] Simple, Pennington goes on the PUP list in which case they free up cap space. Plus, only $12 million of Pennington's contract is guaranteed and it was signed before the 2004 season and has already been amortized over 2 years. So if they just outright cut him after June 1, 2006 they would take about a $4.5 million cap hit in 2006 and another similar hit in 2007. They have plenty of money to sign Leinart and any other rookie they draft. Barring injury, Leinart will be the #1 pick it's juat a matter of who trades up to get him. Or, who knows - Houston may give Carr the boot and take Leinart. Edit: Oh, sorry I forgot the most important part. The current salary cap only runs through the 2006 season. As of today, there is no salary cap in 2007. Clearly, this will be negotiated, and there will be a cap in 2007. But the numbers they are talking about right now are in the $110-115 million area - up from around $85 today. I expect this will be negotiated down to somewhere in the mid-90's to $100 million - but nevertheless, you are looking at a $10-15 million increase in the salary cap for the 2007 season. So just structure his deal so that a larger portion of his money comes in 2007 and beyond. Edited October 19, 2005 by Vet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jo Posted October 19, 2005 Share Posted October 19, 2005 How are the Jets, who just recently signed Pennington to a 60 million dollar contarct extension, going to sign Leinart? 1081149[/snapback] Mel Kiper called him a left-handed version of Chad Pennington last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jo Posted October 19, 2005 Share Posted October 19, 2005 (edited) As for which team would take him, I can see the Raiders, Cardinals, Jets, Lions and Saints all being interested. Can definately see the Raiders trading up to acquire him (they won't finish with the worst record) - Collins is not the long term answer. If Houston does anything other than draft OL in almost every round, they're stupid. Edited October 19, 2005 by Jo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantasy Jesus Posted October 19, 2005 Share Posted October 19, 2005 If Houston does anything other than draft OL in almost every round, they're stupid. 1081199[/snapback] I can see Miami hopefully doing the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bender Rodriguez Posted October 19, 2005 Share Posted October 19, 2005 (edited) Maybe Balitmore trades up? Either them or Arizona, IMO. Edited October 19, 2005 by Bender Rodriguez Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vet Posted October 19, 2005 Share Posted October 19, 2005 Mel Kiper called him a left-handed version of Chad Pennington last year. 1081190[/snapback] Who knows - Pennington might be playing left handed from now on too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glabra Posted October 19, 2005 Share Posted October 19, 2005 Who knows - Pennington might be playing left handed from now on too. 1081289[/snapback] He might have more zip on the ball throwing left-handed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perchoutofwater Posted October 19, 2005 Share Posted October 19, 2005 I'd take Brady Quinn over Leinart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumpin Johnies Posted October 19, 2005 Share Posted October 19, 2005 The Jets would never take Leinart. The have their hearts set on taking a punter in the 1st round. 1081175[/snapback] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hat Trick Posted October 19, 2005 Share Posted October 19, 2005 I think ARZ would be smart to go after him and move up to get him if need be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aqualung Posted October 19, 2005 Share Posted October 19, 2005 I'd take Brady Quinn over Leinart. 1081308[/snapback] But he's just a junior, might not come out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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