HOI Posted December 21, 2005 Share Posted December 21, 2005 (edited) Here's my "All-Snubbed" Team based on who is currently NOT listed on the Pro Bowl Roster. Of course these selections are biased for fantasy production purposes: AFC Snubs WR - H. Ward, Pitt TE - T. Heap, Balt DE - J. Allen, KC DT - M. Reagor, Ind; O. Roye, Clev; Henderson, Jac LB - Peterson, Jac; A. Thomas, Balt; Vilma, NYJ; Bulluck, Tenn; Fletcher, Buff CB - I. Taylor, Pitt S - S. Knight, KC; G. Wesley, KC NFC Snubs QB - E. Manning, NYG; Bledsoe, Dal RB - C. Portis, Wash WR - Galloway, TB TE - C. Cooley, Wash DE - Ogunleye, Chi DT - Bernard, Sea; B. Young, SF LB - Pierce, NYG; Tatupu, Sea; D. Williams, Atl; N. Barnett, GB CB - Tillman, Chi; S. Brown, Phil S - Dawkins, Phil; A. Wilson, Ariz Edited December 21, 2005 by HOI Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
godtomsatan Posted December 21, 2005 Share Posted December 21, 2005 What is this "Pro Bowl" that you speak of? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedroz13 Posted December 21, 2005 Share Posted December 21, 2005 I think Rudi Johnson is missing from the list, but its tough in the AFC with what LT, LJ and Edge did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorstCoachingEver Posted December 21, 2005 Share Posted December 21, 2005 I disagree with your following: AFC SnubsTE - T. Heap, Balt NFC Snubs QB - E. Manning RB - C. Portis, Wash TE - C. Cooley, Wash 1230638[/snapback] Heap - Done zilch this year. Can't blame him cause Boller sucks. E. Manning - Heck no. Played well at the start. Last 5 games utter garbage. C. Portis - No TD production. Cooley - Had a blow up game against Dallas. That's it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOI Posted December 21, 2005 Author Share Posted December 21, 2005 I think Rudi Johnson is missing from the list, but its tough in the AFC with what LT, LJ and Edge did. 1230649[/snapback] Yep, similar to Brees' situation.........probably would've made it if he were in the NFC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STL Fan Posted December 21, 2005 Share Posted December 21, 2005 What about TO? (sorry, somebody had to work him into this thread) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOI Posted December 21, 2005 Author Share Posted December 21, 2005 I disagree with your following:Heap - Done zilch this year. Can't blame him cause Boller sucks. E. Manning - Heck no. Played well at the start. Last 5 games utter garbage. C. Portis - No TD production. Cooley - Had a blow up game against Dallas. That's it. 1230650[/snapback] Roger, was based on fantasy production. Heap certainly had a better year than Gonzo. Eli only benefits from competing in the NFC..........would drop another 3-5 slots vs. AFC QBs. Portis is having a bettter year than Dunn who also has trouble finding the paydirt. Crumpler certainly had a better 1st half than Cooley, but Cooley seems to be heating up down the stretch............of course the argument could be made that Crumpler doesn't have as good of a QB as Cooley...........whoa! Is calling Brunell better than Vick blasphemy?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outshined Posted December 21, 2005 Share Posted December 21, 2005 Its been said in another thread, but Pat Williams got snubbed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOI Posted December 21, 2005 Author Share Posted December 21, 2005 Its been said in another thread, but Pat Williams got snubbed. 1230677[/snapback] Roger, my list was based on fantasy production........not sure how your league scores for IDP's, but Pat Williams is only the 10th ranked DT in the NFC in my IDP league. Of course, fantasy production doesn't account for what a player does in the trenches to pressure passers, take on double teams, or set up their LB'ers for success in shutting down the run. Pat Williams is certainly one of those DT's that ranks high when considering those intangibles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bweiser831 Posted December 21, 2005 Share Posted December 21, 2005 Wow. No Peterson or Vilma in the AFC at LB? Peterson has made a ton of big plays for that defense. And Vilma, though in his second year, is as good a LB as there is in the AFC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovers Posted December 21, 2005 Share Posted December 21, 2005 If it's based on FF production, Vilma, in a landslide. Not even close. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spain Posted December 21, 2005 Share Posted December 21, 2005 Terrell Owens Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOI Posted December 21, 2005 Author Share Posted December 21, 2005 Wow. No Peterson or Vilma in the AFC at LB? Peterson has made a ton of big plays for that defense. And Vilma, though in his second year, is as good a LB as there is in the AFC. 1230698[/snapback] Was especially surprised about the Vilma snub since he's in a big market and should've gotten more votes..................Did the Jets fans fail to turn out the vote due to their woeful season????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giantsfan Posted December 21, 2005 Share Posted December 21, 2005 Heap- 69 catches, 803 yards, and 6 TD's Gonzo- 68 catches, 788 yards, 2 TD's So 1 more catch, 15 more yards, and 4 more TD's yet Gonzo goes. You tell me who belongs more and that Gonzo didn't make it just because of his rep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOI Posted December 21, 2005 Author Share Posted December 21, 2005 Heap- 69 catches, 803 yards, and 6 TD'sGonzo- 68 catches, 788 yards, 2 TD's So 1 more catch, 15 more yards, and 4 more TD's yet Gonzo goes. You tell me who belongs more and that Gonzo didn't make it just because of his rep. 1230722[/snapback] Concur............four more TDs from a TE is HUGE..........probably would've meant another regular season win or two for many fantasy teams. Gonzo is in because of last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chavez Posted December 21, 2005 Share Posted December 21, 2005 Heap- 69 catches, 803 yards, and 6 TD'sGonzo- 68 catches, 788 yards, 2 TD's So 1 more catch, 15 more yards, and 4 more TD's yet Gonzo goes. You tell me who belongs more and that Gonzo didn't make it just because of his rep. 1230722[/snapback] Gonzo's rep no doubt factored in; of course, 70 catches and 800 yds from a TE hardly put him in the "stiff" category; Gonzo is having another very good year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chavez Posted December 21, 2005 Share Posted December 21, 2005 Cooley - Had a blow up game against Dallas. That's it. 1230650[/snapback] Cooley had 58-654-3 BEFORE the Dallas game. That puts him in Pro Bowl company numbers-wise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTen Posted December 21, 2005 Share Posted December 21, 2005 Bledsoe, although he is having a good year, is no pro bowler IMHO. I think that Peterson (SF) is suffering because he is on a bad team. That is something that a lot of good players suffer from every year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wild Wombat Posted December 22, 2005 Share Posted December 22, 2005 It's hard to argue with these three CBs from the NFC: Ronde Barber, DeAngelo Hall and Nathan Vasher but Shaun Springs (Wash) has had another really good season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skippy Posted December 22, 2005 Share Posted December 22, 2005 There is just one name that jumps right to mind. # 54 Tedy Bruschi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumpin Johnies Posted December 22, 2005 Share Posted December 22, 2005 Ken Lucas, CB, Carolina Panthers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kcmast Posted December 22, 2005 Share Posted December 22, 2005 Its been said in another thread, but Pat Williams got snubbed. 1230677[/snapback] Agreed. The Vikes run defense has been mighty tough lately and I think Williams is the key. Even if he isn't getting the # of tackles, he's breaking plays up. He has been Hugh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gonkis Posted December 22, 2005 Share Posted December 22, 2005 You think the average voter looks at stats? I don't think so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swampnuts Posted December 22, 2005 Share Posted December 22, 2005 Ken Lucas and Todd Heap were no brainers IMO. Gonzales did not have the year to warrant a trip. Too bad for Rudi, but there's just too many good backs in the AFC. How Jake Delhomme and Roy Williams get in from the NFC is beyond me. Adrian Wilson should have been a hands down over Roy, and I really thought Brunell would sneak in for the comeback year he's had. The NFC QB's suck though. I thought Chris Chambers was a great choice in the AFC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebartender Posted December 22, 2005 Share Posted December 22, 2005 Although I am suprised Dawkins didn't make it on rep alone, he really didn't deserve to make the pro-bowl this year based on his play so I can't consider him snubbed. Sheldon Brown on the other hand has played well this year and would have made it last year if the other three Eagles D-Backs didn't all make it last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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