biggamer3 Posted July 11, 2006 Share Posted July 11, 2006 Is Larry Fitzgerald the clear cut #1 ahead of Chad Johnson and Steve Smith? Something to consider is that Leinert will probably be the QB next year, so Fitzgeralds stats next year could be much worse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Country Posted July 11, 2006 Share Posted July 11, 2006 I don't think Fitz is even the clear cut #1 on his own team much less in the NFL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Posted July 11, 2006 Share Posted July 11, 2006 Is Larry Fitzgerald the clear cut #1 ahead of Chad Johnson and Steve Smith? Something to consider is that Leinert will probably be the QB next year, so Fitzgeralds stats next year could be much worse No not yet. DMD's cheatsheet has several tier 1 WR's this year and I agree. Some like Smith, some Chad, some Fitz, some TO. and I like Boldin, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Beatings Posted July 11, 2006 Share Posted July 11, 2006 I think Chad Johnson would be my #1 WR for a Keeper league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballjoe Posted July 11, 2006 Share Posted July 11, 2006 I like Fitz, don't get me wrong but I do not see either him or Boldin doing as well as last year. First, I think the addition of Edge will help the running game. Second, I think the Cards will be a better team overall and will not be playing from behind as often, therefore they will be running more. I would take Chad & Steve Smith and over Fitz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PantherDave Posted July 11, 2006 Share Posted July 11, 2006 Do I have to answer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swampnuts Posted July 11, 2006 Share Posted July 11, 2006 Steve Smith should be the #1 of that group. My top 3 would be Smith, Holt, and TO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yo mama Posted July 11, 2006 Share Posted July 11, 2006 Do I have to answer Yes, but you must do so in a haiku. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yo mama Posted July 11, 2006 Share Posted July 11, 2006 Steve Smith should be the #1 of that group. My top 3 would be Smith, Holt, and TO. I'd say Smith, Holt, then Harrison. Harrison is so much more stable than TO, in a couple different ways. But TO is still in my top 5. Moss is the guy I can't get a handle on this year, relative to tier 2 guys like Boldin and Fitz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfden1 Posted July 11, 2006 Share Posted July 11, 2006 Yes, but you must do so in a haiku. Steve Smith is the one There should not be any doubt He will prove it soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seminoles Posted July 11, 2006 Share Posted July 11, 2006 then Harrison. for a keeper league?? i'd think with him getting older and with reggie wayne opposite of him, he would drop down a little. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perchoutofwater Posted July 11, 2006 Share Posted July 11, 2006 It depends on how may years you are able to keep a player. I like Smith next year, but see Chad Johnson as the one I would keep if I were able to keep them for an unlimited number of years. of years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PantherDave Posted July 11, 2006 Share Posted July 11, 2006 Yes, but you must do so in a haiku. Smitty is the wind He will blow by your DB's He is the one to keep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biggamer3 Posted July 11, 2006 Author Share Posted July 11, 2006 Steve Smith should be the #1 of that group. My top 3 would be Smith, Holt, and TO. Holt and TO for a keeper over Chad and Fitz? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Country Posted July 11, 2006 Share Posted July 11, 2006 Holt and TO for a keeper over Chad and Fitz? Not sure I have either of Chad, but I like Holt over Fitz, even in a keeper. You still have to play to win now, so the age really should only come into a major affect when deciding between players that have very similar rankings. If you are always picking/playing for the future you will never win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yo mama Posted July 11, 2006 Share Posted July 11, 2006 Smitty is the wind He will blow by your DB's He is the one to keep I'm sorry, but the last line contains 6 - rather than the mandatory 5 - syllables. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yo mama Posted July 11, 2006 Share Posted July 11, 2006 Steve Smith is the one There should not be any doubt He will prove it soon. Good job. Glad to see *someone* in Empire understands the fundamentals of traditional Japanesse poetry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco Billy Posted July 11, 2006 Share Posted July 11, 2006 Haiku is for Brokeback Mountain fans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yo mama Posted July 11, 2006 Share Posted July 11, 2006 for a keeper league?? i'd think with him getting older and with reggie wayne opposite of him, he would drop down a little. Yup. Well, IMO at least. Harrison rarely gets hurt. No off-field problems. The Colts are an offensive powerhouse that should be centered around the passing game this year without Edge. And I don't see any reason why Harrison won't remain very productive past a "normal" WR's shelf life (ala Jimmy and Rod Smith) for at least another 2-3 years. Fitz and Boldin are younger, but they are far less proven players on an team with an inferior offense. And Reggie Wayne won't detract from Harrison anymore than Housh will detract from CJ, or Fitz or Boldin will detract from one another. I see your point, I think it's valid, but I'd be willing to sacrafice potential and longevity in lieu of elite, reliable production for the next 2+ seasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yo mama Posted July 11, 2006 Share Posted July 11, 2006 Haiku is for Brokeback Mountain fans. You'd prefer iambic pentameter? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco Billy Posted July 11, 2006 Share Posted July 11, 2006 You'd prefer iambic pentameter? I'd prefer beer, wings, cigars, strippers, & football - preferrably simultaneously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synnr Posted July 12, 2006 Share Posted July 12, 2006 (edited) I'd prefer beer, wings, cigars, strippers, & football - preferrably simultaneously. But what would you prefer in the original question? I would keep The Chad. Edited July 12, 2006 by Synnr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yo mama Posted July 13, 2006 Share Posted July 13, 2006 (edited) Is Larry Fitzgerald the clear cut #1 ahead of Chad Johnson and Steve Smith? Something to consider is that Leinert will probably be the QB next year, so Fitzgeralds stats next year could be much worse Okay, here are some additional tidbits for you to digest in your Johnson (giggle), Smith, Fitzgerald dilema: - Steve Smith had an earth-shattering 68.6% reception ratio last year, despite double and sometimes triple coverage. No elite WR came within 5% of that stat (though Housh and Rod Smith - two of my fav underdogs going into last year - came in at 68% and 67%, respectively. Might want to jot that down going into this year's draft, FYI); - Boldin was actually targeted more last year (171 times) than Fitzgearld (164 times) DESPITE Boldin missing 2 games; - Fitzgerald only caught 1 more ball (103) than Fitzgerald (102), despite Boldin missing those two games; - Fitzgerald did, however, have a slightly better reception ratio (63%) than Boldin (60%). I've got nothing bad to say about Chad Johnson, as he stacks up well in almost every category - especially yardage. However, I'd say you'd be hard pressed *not* to rank Steve Smith first. But between Fitz and Boldin, I'd probably rather have Boldin. And between Holt and Harrison, there are certainly some intangibles in play (like how much the Rams' might back off of their prior pass-happy offense, and how much the Colts might resume theirs). However, both had solid reception ratios last year (62% each). Harrison seems to be more of the TD threat, as 9.09% of his pass targets result in TDs (best of all elite WRs last year; even better than Steve Smith), whereas only 5.55% of Holt's pass targets result in TDs. Where Holt shines, at least under the old Martz system, is in PPR leagues, as only three WRs caught more than his 101 receptions last year (Smith, Fitz, and Boldin). So the Holt vs. Harrison decision should probably be decieded based upon your league's scoring set up. Edited July 13, 2006 by yo mama Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raider.Nation Posted July 13, 2006 Share Posted July 13, 2006 For me it's all about Torry Holt and here's why, especially in a keeper/dynasty league. There's only 1 thing guaranteed in the NFL. Division opponents play each other 6 times throughout the season. 1 vs Broncos 2 at 49ers 3 at Cardinals 4 vs Lions 5 at Packers 6 vs Seahawks 7 Bye 8 at Chargers 9 vs Chiefs 10 at Seahawks 11 at Panthers 12 vs 49ers 13 vs Cardinals 14 vs Bears 15 at Raiders 16 vs Redskins 17 at Vikings Look at that SCHED! I suppose the same argument can be made for Fitz/Boldin, but I'll stick with the most consistent FF producer at WR of the last decade (with Mr Harrison of course). And I know guys like CJ, Smith, TO have put up some monster numbers, I just LOVE the fact that Holt is guaranteed 6 games against complete *poop* defences every single year! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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