Clubfoothead Posted July 13, 2006 Share Posted July 13, 2006 I'm rooting for Israel. We had just better make sure they know where all of our ships are this time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azazello1313 Posted July 13, 2006 Author Share Posted July 13, 2006 here's the mubarak article i was talking about... There were also signs that Egypt was growing impatient with Syria in the crisis. Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak implicitly accused Damascus of wrecking his attempts to mediate a deal for the release of Cpt. Cpl. Gilad Shalit, snatched by Hamas-linked militants on June 25. Hamas was subjected to "counter-pressures by other parties, which I don't want to name but which cut the road in front of the Egyptian mediation and led to the failure of the deal after it was about to be concluded," Mubarak told Cairo's Al-Ahram Al-Massai newspaper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azazello1313 Posted July 13, 2006 Author Share Posted July 13, 2006 food for thought... Israel left Lebanon: the Lebanese now attack Israel proper. Israel left Gaza: the Gazans now attack Israel proper. Israel walled off the West Bank: the Palestinians there elect Hamas. A pattern emerges. And so, today, we see that what is old is new, and vice versa. Israel has invaded Lebanon and Gaza, reconquering what was conquered and given up once and more before. We know what will be done: Israel will flounder about for a bit and eventually withdraw once its captive soldiers -- and most probably their corpses -- are returned. And we know what should be done, for the sake of the peace that Israel wants and its enemies manifestly do not. The road to peace runs through an Israeli military frontier on the Litani; and through a Rafah crossing choked with one million three hundred thousand Gazans fleeing to diaspora in the Muslim lands of the Nile. Were Israel the monstrous dispossessor and aggressor of the fantasies of its foes from Damascus to Europe, this would have been long since done. The pity, and the irony, is that it is not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skins Posted July 13, 2006 Share Posted July 13, 2006 That is just pathetic. Why? And I am not blaming BUsh for this, Aszmuch, I am saying he has no Middle East policy as far as I can tell and that is not reassuring at all. He is a one trick pony on foreign policy--threaten and blsuter--and if his bluff gets called and he doesnt invade, hes got nothing. That is scary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I Like Soup Posted July 13, 2006 Share Posted July 13, 2006 Why? And I am not blaming BUsh for this, Aszmuch, I am saying he has no Middle East policy as far as I can tell and that is not reassuring at all. He is a one trick pony on foreign policy--threaten and blsuter--and if his bluff gets called and he doesnt invade, hes got nothing. That is scary. I have to tell you why Bush's stance/diplomacy is pathetic towards North Korea? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonorator Posted July 13, 2006 Share Posted July 13, 2006 iran is driving this, pure and simple, to distract from all the focus on them and their nuclear bullchit. Bible students are watching carefully these developments because we are all aware of the role ancient Persia (modern-day Iran) plays in the events of the end times - Exekiel 38 lists them as the first nation among the allies of God and Magog who will attack Israel. Some Bible teachers believe that this war of Exekiel 38-39 will take place before the tribulation begins. Others believe that the Hebrew prophets are consistent with themselves and are speaking of the details of Armageddon that come at the end of the tribulation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I Like Soup Posted July 13, 2006 Share Posted July 13, 2006 The world will end when the sun is going through it's death throes and scorches the surface of the earth. We may not be engulfed by the sun, but it will be close. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yukon Cornelius Posted July 13, 2006 Share Posted July 13, 2006 The world will end when the sun is going through it's death throes and scorches the surface of the earth. We may not be engulfed by the sun, but it will be close. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDFFFreak Posted July 13, 2006 Share Posted July 13, 2006 Hamas or whomever crosses into Israel's territory and kidnaps people = grounds for anyone to be really pissed off. If I wasn't convinced before, the Pals have little intention of coexisting peacfully with the Israelis. Too bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skins Posted July 13, 2006 Share Posted July 13, 2006 I have to tell you why Bush's stance/diplomacy is pathetic towards North Korea? Probably not. I thought you meant that the article was pathetic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cre8tiff Posted July 13, 2006 Share Posted July 13, 2006 The world will end when the sun is going through it's death throes and scorches the surface of the earth. We may not be engulfed by the sun, but it will be close. Dammit, I knew I should have stuck to worshipping Ra! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Peanut Guy Posted July 13, 2006 Share Posted July 13, 2006 PEANUTS..GET YOUR PEANUTS HERE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duchess Jack Posted July 13, 2006 Share Posted July 13, 2006 Azazello1313, The Peanut Guy, Duchess Jack, BeeR, AtomicCEO, moneymakers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suppasonic Posted July 13, 2006 Share Posted July 13, 2006 New Idea. We shall build a 15 foot wall around the middle east, cover it with a dome. We'll slowly leak in water from the Mediterranean, flooding them day by day, until they resolve their conflict. If they dont, the middle east is under 15 feet of water, and we're good anyways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I Like Soup Posted July 13, 2006 Share Posted July 13, 2006 Probably not. I thought you meant that the article was pathetic. C'mon over here skins and I'll explain a few things to you...:pullingskinsoutofmoranline: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiegie Posted July 13, 2006 Share Posted July 13, 2006 I'm rooting for Israel. We had just better make sure they know where all of our ships are this time. what makes you think they didn't know where all of our ships were last time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I Like Soup Posted July 13, 2006 Share Posted July 13, 2006 what makes you think they didn't know where all of our ships were last time? Hey...yeah... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigrocks Posted July 13, 2006 Share Posted July 13, 2006 Wow… it sure went bad in a hurry. Though there is still time to back away from the abyss of all out conflict between Israel and the Arab world (Syria, Lebanon, the Palestinians) and even Iran, without a strong intermediary presence to intervene (i.e. the US) it could all unravel very quickly. The things that really stand out above the chaff that is being reported: 1. Its clear the Bush administration does not have a clear grasp on how to handle these crises when they flare up…. and all parties involved are taking advantage of the absence of American diplomacy – backed by strong resolve. 2. Other countries with some power and pull in the region are only concerned about their own interests and will not allow or condone direct intervention by the US or the UN - primarily Russia, France, and China. Ironic how all three are on the permanent UN Security Council. 3. Israel is pissed and worried about something. I don’t think they are throwing missiles around just to take down the Lebanese government or scare Hamas. It seems to be much deeper than that. I saw one brief report this morning that mentioned the Israelis believe Hezbollah is attempting to transfer the captured soldiers to Iran or Syria. That means the Syrian and/or Iranian governments have some measure of control over what is happening in Lebanon and the Palestinian territories. Israel has been saying this for years, the American government believes it, but the rest of the world just throws up its hands. I think the Israelis are beginning to act on a perception that no one is ready or able to go to bat for them (including the US) if Syria and Iran decide to act on their not-so veiled threats of wiping Israel off the map. What if the Iranians develop a nuclear weapon and smuggle it to Syria…? They sure wouldn’t take responsibility if it then made its way into Lebanon or the West Bank. In some ways the Israeli’s seem to overreact when these situations flare up, but their intelligence is second to none. If they act it usually means they have a reason and they don’t hold their punches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiegie Posted July 13, 2006 Share Posted July 13, 2006 I don’t think they are throwing missiles around just to take down the Lebanese government I hope not as the current Lebanese government is actually somewhat friendly with the US (relatively speaking, of course). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clubfoothead Posted July 13, 2006 Share Posted July 13, 2006 what makes you think they didn't know where all of our ships were last time? They knew where it was. They didn't know whose ship it was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azazello1313 Posted July 13, 2006 Author Share Posted July 13, 2006 apparently, news reports have aired on fox and cnn in the last few minutes that the hezbollah rockets fired into haifa this morning were actually missiles known to be manufactured in, you guessed it, iran...and the prime suspect is no longer hezbollah, but iranian revolutionary guard units stationed in southern lebanon. no link yet... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perchoutofwater Posted July 13, 2006 Share Posted July 13, 2006 apparently, news reports have aired on fox and cnn in the last few minutes that the hezbollah rockets fired into haifa this morning were actually missiles known to be manufactured in, you guessed it, iran...and the prime suspect is no longer hezbollah, but iranian revolutionary guard units stationed in southern lebanon. no link yet... If that is the case, I feel Iran is going to get all the nuclear power they want in the next 24-48 hours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I Like Soup Posted July 13, 2006 Share Posted July 13, 2006 apparently, news reports have aired on fox and cnn in the last few minutes that the hezbollah rockets fired into haifa this morning were actually missiles known to be manufactured in, you guessed it, iran...and the prime suspect is no longer hezbollah, but iranian revolutionary guard units stationed in southern lebanon. no link yet... Haifa? Holy crap, I've been there twice. Well, if the Iranian Revolutionary Guard is involved, I'm sure the UN will step in to help Israel. :oldrolleyes: Is this Bush's ticket to start bombing Iran back to the Stone Age? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDFFFreak Posted July 13, 2006 Share Posted July 13, 2006 What a mess... but we knew that already, didn't we? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaterMan Posted July 14, 2006 Share Posted July 14, 2006 Time to put more fuel into our war machine SUV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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