Beaumont Posted July 13, 2006 Share Posted July 13, 2006 (edited) Link And they draft Brooks the same day? The Bengals are imploding, and they are full of poop if they claim they care about character ... Edited July 13, 2006 by Beaumont Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broncosn05 Posted July 13, 2006 Share Posted July 13, 2006 Link And they draft Brooks the same day? The Bengals are imploding, and they are full of poop if they claim they care about character ... Glad I haven't taken him in any drafts even though I was targeting him with a big ole gun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swiss Cheezhead Posted July 13, 2006 Share Posted July 13, 2006 This is EXACTLY why I factor in character concerns when I make decisions for my dynasty teams. Hence, I drafted Barrett Ruud over Thurman (and so did Tampa ). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swiss Cheezhead Posted July 13, 2006 Share Posted July 13, 2006 Bad link, btw. There are two http's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaumont Posted July 13, 2006 Author Share Posted July 13, 2006 Bad link, btw. There are two http's. Fixed ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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keggerz Posted July 14, 2006 Share Posted July 14, 2006 (edited) the thing that sucks most about the 4 game suspension is that the next one is for a year i shouldnt have any problem filling Thurman's spot in one league where i have 13 LBs on my roster: (1st yr dynasty and we drafted back in feb., 2pts/tackle, start 3) Thurman, Odell CIN LB Pierce, Antonio NYG LB Smith, Daryl JAC LB James, Bradie DAL LB Johnson, Landon CIN LB McCoy, Matt PHI LB Adams, Keith CAR LB Boley, Michael ATL LB Clemons, Chris WAS LB Haggans, Clark PIT LB Henderson, E.J. MIN LB Hillenmeyer, Hunter CHI LB DTS- Johnson, Brandon ARI LB but in another league same scoring I am now a bit thin at LB Thurman, Odell CIN LB Witherspoon, Will STL LB Johnson, Derrick O. KCC LB Davis, Thomas CAR LB Clemons, Chris WAS LB Johnson, Brandon ARI LB Thomas, Robert OAK LB DTS- Williams, Jamar CHI LB McCune, Robert WAS LB Mitchell, Lance ARI LB Newberry, Jared TEN LB Wallace, Rian PIT LB Alston, Jon STL LB Edited July 14, 2006 by keggerz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loyalboyd Posted July 14, 2006 Share Posted July 14, 2006 No what REALLY sucks! He have a bye week in WEEK 5! So really its a 5 weeks we lose him. Plus! we know he wont start week 6. As a lesson for what hes done! So really we wont use him till WEEK 7!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovers Posted July 14, 2006 Share Posted July 14, 2006 Pretty good news for B Simmons owners! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stingers Posted July 16, 2006 Share Posted July 16, 2006 Pretty good news for B Simmons owners! Or Landon Johnson or Broooks or.......? We don't know yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stingers Posted July 27, 2006 Share Posted July 27, 2006 Or Landon Johnson or Broooks or.......? We don't know yet. Here's the latest I've seen With Bengals LB Odell Thurman's 4-game suspension it looks like Brian Simmons will move from the weak side to the middle. Simmons played there years ago when Takeo Spikes was on the weak side and played at a Pro Bowl level. From 2001-2002 Simmons collected 9.5 sacks, 2 INTs, 2 forced fumbles, and a TD out of the middle. Landon Johnson will play the weak side and David Pollack will play the strong side. Johnson is an intriguing guy. You could draft him late and collect a nice batch of weak-side IDP points, then trade him in week 5 before Thurman returns to the field. shark bites Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stingers Posted July 31, 2006 Share Posted July 31, 2006 (edited) Now there is speculation that for whatever reason Odell Thurman may not be playing at all this year. Cloud following Bengals Linebacker Thurman a no-show, could miss season, Lewis says BY MARK CURNUTTE | ENQUIRER STAFF WRITER GEORGETOWN, Ky. - On the first day of training camp, when Marvin Lewis wanted a fresh start to put a difficult offseason behind him, the Bengals coach said middle linebacker Odell Thurman might not play at all this year. Thurman was suspended for four games by the NFL for violating its substance-abuse policy a second time. Ninth-year veteran Brian Simmons will play middle linebacker. "We'll have someone play there for the season, so we won't worry about a guy that's not here or who's not a part of our football team right now," Lewis said of Thurman. Pressed whether Thurman would show up and participate in training camp practice, which is allowed by the NFL despite the suspension, Lewis then said of the team's leading tackler in 2005: "We don't have to worry about that right now. It's a nebulous question. He's a non-factor." One more question as to Thurman's whereabouts - he was in Georgia tending to family business - brought this response from Lewis: "If you want to be in charge of him, you're welcome." On the day when quarterback Carson Palmer made an anticipated return to real practice - less than eight months after undergoing reconstructive knee surgery - the character questions continued to dog Lewis and the Bengals. He and team president Mike Brown have dismissed the possibility that players' off-field troubles could affect the Bengals on the field. As the defending AFC North champion Bengals reported to training camp Saturday morning at Georgetown College, players, too, didn't think some teammates' problems would hurt the team's performance. But the spate of missteps definitely was on their minds. "I'm a little upset at those guys somewhat because of the fact - I don't think a lot of it is big problems - but it is a problem," wide receiver T.J. Houshmandzadeh said. "We have kind of good things going here, and they bring negative attention to the team. I don't think it will affect us, though. "They're all young. I hope they can get it together, to be honest, because if things don't go the way we hope, that's what (the media) will point to as the reason why." Fellow wide receiver Chris Henry has been the major offender. He was arrested four times from December through June. As a rookie, Henry - who came to the Bengals with a reputation for on-field temper tantrums at West Virginia - was put under the watchful eyes of Houshmandzadeh and Chad Johnson as mentors. "There is only so much straightening we can do," Johnson said Saturday morning when asked if teammates can positively affect a player's personal behavior. "We can't walk everybody by the hand. We can't live with them. We can only talk to them. What can we say? We're all grown. We can't be with them 24/7." Though management, coaches and players say off-field issues won't affect the team, in reality they already have. Henry is in danger of league suspension. He established himself as the team's No. 3 receiver behind Johnson and Houshmandzadeh last season when he had 31 catches, six for touchdowns, and was especially productive in the red zone. The Bengals signed Antonio Chatman as a free agent and drafted two wide receivers, Reggie McNeal and Bennie Brazell. Chatman, Tab Perry and fourth-year pro Kelley Washington are expected to compete for the No. 3 slot. Chatman, Perry and Houshmandzadeh worked out with Palmer for three weeks in late June and early July at the Home Depot Center in Carson, Calif. Palmer and Henry, who said he tore his posterior cruciate ligament in the playoff loss to the Steelers, worked out together through the late winter and spring as they rehabbed their injuries. Henry was cleared Saturday to practice. "I think a lot of guys who've had the problems are younger guys, and I think they've kind of figured out that you're not going to get away with much in this league," Palmer said. "You're going to get in trouble if you mess up in this league. Chris and Odell have had their names run through the media in a negative way, and I know they aren't going to like that." Besides Henry's string of arrests, Thurman's suspension has drawn the most attention. With Simmons moving from the weak-side to the middle linebacker spot, Landon Johnson will play outside opposite David Pollack. "It's more a personal issue than a team issue," Simmons said of teammates' legal problems. "Of course, it makes the other guys look bad. Those are personal things they need to get worked out. "Once we go out there (the first practice was Saturday night), it's going to be a moot point. It's going to be good for guys to get back to football." Some of the veteran players have counseled the players who have gotten into trouble. But it's not a heavy-handed approach. "You give advice when a guy wants to talk to you; you don't try to be overbearing, because at some point guys have got to be men and take care of their own business," lineman Willie Anderson said. "Sometimes, you just put your hand over a guy and let him know you're there as a teammate." Said free safety Madieu Williams: "The last thing they need is for somebody to beat them over the head. They know what happened. We all know what happened." As a Thurman owner And now the latest GEORGETOWN, Ky. -- Though suspended for the first four games and possibly to sit out the whole year, linebacker Odell Thurman has arrived at training camp and will be made available to the media after the practice from 7-9 tonight. Thurman is eligible to practice and play in preseason games by terms of his NFL suspension for the second violation of its substance abuse policy. It is not know whether Thurman will practice. Brian Simmons has been working as the starting middle linebacker in Thurman's place, with rookie Ahmad Brooks running with the second team. GEORGETOWN, Ky. - Middle linebacker Odell Thurman arrived here at training camp Monday, according to his agent. Listed as the fourth team middle linebacker, it’s unclear if he’ll practice Monday night but agent Safarrah Lawson said his client is ready to go. Lawson said that last Friday, but Thurman didn't show up for training camp on Saturday because of family issues and drew the wrath of head coach Marvin Lewis. "It's a non-factor. We expect him here. If you want to be in charge of him you're welcome,” Lewis said. “He's dealing with some things with his family and they'd asked if he was allowed to do this. There's no pressing need for him to be here." Although Thurman is eligible to practice and play in games all during preseason before his four-game suspension begins Sept. 4, Lewis warned this could be a year-long status because the team has the discretion on how to use him. Lawson has indicated for the past week that Thurman is healthy enough to practice and actually is heavier than he was last year at this time at 240 pounds. How far back is Thurman? He's behind starter Brian Simmons and No. 2 Ahmad Brooks, selected 13 days ago in the supplemental draft. He's also behind another rookie in fifth-rounder and third-teamer A.J. 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Footballjoe Posted July 31, 2006 Share Posted July 31, 2006 I was happy to hear he was in camp since I have him in a Dynasty League. I do have Johnson who will play the Weak Side which will help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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