skins Posted July 18, 2006 Share Posted July 18, 2006 OK, let’s put this to rest. You don’t have to gang up on me. I won't mind a Hewitt gang up at all, though. I put my foot in my mouth when I brought the families and Jewish issues into the subject. My bad. I’m just fascinated by how the economical aspect of any civilization is directly tied into its social development, and how many conspiracies evolve around it. E.g. - Freemasons, Templars, New World Order, etc. Last thing I expected was this reaction! I’m liking the website more and more. I’m still having issues differentiating serious lines from joking ones. Point is the Jewish majority in the FED is nothing but a myth. I don’t want to get into shareholders because that would make me go into each and everyone of them and that is a whole different monster (Not including Rothschild, Morgan, Rockefeller, Warburg, Schiffs, Harrimans, etc). However, You can’t deny the influence, as minimal as it may be. The arguments are so many and the true power of the FED is unimaginable, at least for me. Listen, you mildly racist but somewhat likable goofball, there are very logical and historical reasons for people of Jewish origin being heavily represented in finance and the learned professions. First and fundamentally, the Jewish culture has always been one of education and learning based on their religious tradition. Study of the Torah--which all Jewish men did to one degree or another--involved serious debate, commentary and analysis much like the Socratic method. They are the people of the Book and the Law, after all. So all those centuries that the Church told the European peasant dirt eaters that God wouldnt let them read, the Jews had a flourishing and vibrant and literate culture (as did the Muslims, but that is another story). Also, for much of their history in the West they have been an ostricized minority who frequently were forced to operate outside of the norms of society. That lead to a creative approach to survival and frequently to Jews performing functions that others could or would not. For example, during some periods in some areas, the Church forbid Christians to make loans for interest, so Jews filled that void. That lead to Jewish families developing skills in banking and commerce. Further, the Jews realized that as a frequently persecuted minority, their likelihood of survival could be increased through concentration of wealth and making themselves of use to the powers that be--fuedal lords in many instances (For example, in the Baltic States at the end of the 1900's when Russia required all Jewish men to serve a mandatory 20 years in the Russian army, my Sephardic ancestors managed the massive feudal estates of the Duke of Riga, who secured them an exemption. They were also militant Zionists.). And they have always had the advantage of being far more literate than the average European. Now, I am generalizing, of course, and there have also been bone crushingly poor illiterate Jews. But those simple historical facts give you an understanding of why Jews, a highly educated minority, have been able to dominate areas of society where analytical skills and literacy and creativity are vitally important. As for yer crapola about ZOG, the Fed and whatnot, yer making quite an initial impression here as a doushy nimrod. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiegie Posted July 18, 2006 Share Posted July 18, 2006 and there have also been bone crushingly poor illiterate Jews. Just once I wish somebody would make a post about Jews without taking a backhanded swipe at I think I love you, but what am I so afraid of?. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skins Posted July 18, 2006 Share Posted July 18, 2006 Just once I wish somebody would make a post about Jews without taking a backhanded swipe at I think I love you, but what am I so afraid of?. I couldnt help myself. Sorry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Posted July 18, 2006 Share Posted July 18, 2006 Listen, you mildly racist but somewhat likable goofball, there are very logical and historical reasons for people of Jewish origin being heavily represented in finance and the learned professions. First and fundamentally, the Jewish culture has always been one of education and learning based on their religious tradition. Study of the Torah--which all Jewish men did to one degree or another--involved serious debate, commentary and analysis much like the Socratic method. They are the people of the Book and the Law, after all. So all those centuries that the Church told the European peasant dirt eaters that God wouldnt let them read, the Jews had a flourishing and vibrant and literate culture (as did the Muslims, but that is another story). Yes study a little history and how they were invited into nations to help their economies and then when it suited the host country expelled. BTW wasn't Dubya a history major? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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yo mama Posted July 18, 2006 Share Posted July 18, 2006 BTW wasn't Dubya a history major? Yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Neutron Posted July 18, 2006 Share Posted July 18, 2006 Here is a fairly concise 40 minute clip about what joe and other conspiracy buffs sometimes bring up. It covers most of the grand conspiracy theory (Illuminati, CFR, TLC, rich families, skull & bones, the Catholic church, debt, world wars, the federal reserve and royal bloodlines) including some stuff that I've never heard - and I like reading that stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Cherni Posted July 18, 2006 Share Posted July 18, 2006 I have the honor of giving you yer first bestowed sigline. Once you use it, you will lose yer newbie status. I have changed my mind on what it should be, though. You need to change yer sigline to: I love I think I love you, but what am I so afraid of? Chili. That will go a long way toward cementing yer status here in the gang. Ahhhh I missed this place Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiegie Posted July 18, 2006 Share Posted July 18, 2006 Here is a fairly concise 40 minute clip about what joe and other conspiracy buffs sometimes bring up. It covers most of the grand conspiracy theory (Illuminati, CFR, TLC, rich families, skull & bones, the Catholic church, debt, world wars, the federal reserve and royal bloodlines) including some stuff that I've never heard - and I like reading that stuff. I finally had to quit after watching 5 minutes of it--which coincidentally is the amount of time the entire video would have taken to watch had they had only left the quotes up on the screen long enough for even a relatively slow reader to read them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumpin Johnies Posted July 18, 2006 Share Posted July 18, 2006 Well, my data is from 1997... you are probably right I know I'm right, but at least you're man enough to admit you're wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Neutron Posted July 18, 2006 Share Posted July 18, 2006 I finally had to quit after watching 5 minutes of it--which coincidentally is the amount of time the entire video would have taken to watch had they had only left the quotes up on the screen long enough for even a relatively slow reader to read them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skins Posted July 18, 2006 Share Posted July 18, 2006 (edited) Don’t play the sigline as ignorant as I’m fascinated to have learned that there was actually a faction of Judaism in Spain and Portugal, thinking back on it I remember reading some of the sort at College (although I remember something called Sefia – in spanish). I’m still reading as I write. You are right about the church (assuming it’s Catholic) not letting people read or basically understand much of what was being said during mass since it was said in Latin (Up to around the 1940’s still). The migration of the landless state must have brought an incredible advantage in matters of adaptation and survival, at a great cost of lives. As for the FED, the knowledge of a uniform and controlling banking system was basically non-existent in 1913 America (A really new nation just founded in 1776) and without the assistance of England, Germany and Jewish knowledge it would not have become what it is today. Sorry for the delay but I’m putting the four kids to bed. Sephardic Jews--that is what you are referring to--were the Jews who lived in North Africa and eventually the Iberian Peninsula. And yer sigline is completely advocating being a dumasz. It essentially says enough research and you can prove anything. So why learn anything cause anything can be proved? That is complete asstardery and you are wearing it proudly like some kind of badge. It is a badge: the Mark of the Aszmunch. As for yer comment about pre-1913 centralized banking in America, well, you seem to be pretty misinformed on a lot of subjects. Edited July 18, 2006 by skins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joethin Posted July 18, 2006 Share Posted July 18, 2006 Sephardic Jews--that is what you are referring to--were the Jews who lived in North Africa and eventually the Iberian Peninsula. And yer sigline is completely advocating being a dumasz. It essentially says enough research and you can prove anything. So why learn anything cause anything can be proved? That is complete asstardery and you are wearing it proudly like some kind of badge. It is a badge: the Mark of the Aszmunch. As for yer comment about pre-1913 centralized banking in America, well, you seem to be pretty misinformed on a lot of subjects. You can't get away with anything in here. Badly put, I used those countries names as a whole when I meant how Warburg and Schiff were vital parts of the creation and considering their backgrounds. Thanks for the correction. I hope you enjoy the siglines now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MojoMan Posted July 18, 2006 Share Posted July 18, 2006 Listen, you mildly racist but somewhat likable goofball, there are very logical and historical reasons for people of Jewish origin being heavily represented in finance and the learned professions. First and fundamentally, the Jewish culture has always been one of education and learning based on their religious tradition. Study of the Torah--which all Jewish men did to one degree or another--involved serious debate, commentary and analysis much like the Socratic method. They are the people of the Book and the Law, after all. So all those centuries that the Church told the European peasant dirt eaters that God wouldnt let them read, the Jews had a flourishing and vibrant and literate culture (as did the Muslims, but that is another story). Also, for much of their history in the West they have been an ostricized minority who frequently were forced to operate outside of the norms of society. That lead to a creative approach to survival and frequently to Jews performing functions that others could or would not. For example, during some periods in some areas, the Church forbid Christians to make loans for interest, so Jews filled that void. That lead to Jewish families developing skills in banking and commerce. Further, the Jews realized that as a frequently persecuted minority, their likelihood of survival could be increased through concentration of wealth and making themselves of use to the powers that be--fuedal lords in many instances (For example, in the Baltic States at the end of the 1900's when Russia required all Jewish men to serve a mandatory 20 years in the Russian army, my Sephardic ancestors managed the massive feudal estates of the Duke of Riga, who secured them an exemption. They were also militant Zionists.). And they have always had the advantage of being far more literate than the average European. Now, I am generalizing, of course, and there have also been bone crushingly poor illiterate Jews. But those simple historical facts give you an understanding of why Jews, a highly educated minority, have been able to dominate areas of society where analytical skills and literacy and creativity are vitally important. As for yer crapola about ZOG, the Fed and whatnot, yer making quite an initial impression here as a doushy nimrod. Well said skins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joethin Posted July 18, 2006 Share Posted July 18, 2006 My favorite quote concerning the power of banking is the following quote I found in a book from the 1940s (the author is arguing against branch-banking and not the FED, but it is still good stuff): Awesome and scary quote. When you think about it so true. You open your bank account, you get a credit card, you get a car loan, you get a student loan (which I'm still paying, and thinking about it I didn't lear that much), you get a house loan. And to top it all, you get assigned a score so that they (banks/branches) can decide what interest rate you get (If any at all). What book is it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtomicCEO Posted July 18, 2006 Share Posted July 18, 2006 Thats because we have sophisticated minds... All of us? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Front Row Posted July 18, 2006 Share Posted July 18, 2006 Thats because we are pompous asses... fixed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spain Posted July 18, 2006 Author Share Posted July 18, 2006 (edited) A very good buddy of mine, whose poker nickname is "the rabbi", is also a chili man. We have been friends for a long time and play alot of poker together. When somebody makes a huge bet, really putting him to the test, I try to talke like the commentators on World Poker Tour. Except instead of saying things like, "he has put him in a vise coming over the top with that big re-raise; I will say, "He has led the rabbi unto a locked room and is turning on the gas" or "The rabbi is really starting to feel the heat from the ovens". Is that wrong? Edited July 18, 2006 by spain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azazello1313 Posted July 18, 2006 Share Posted July 18, 2006 First and fundamentally, the Jewish culture has always been one of education and learning based on their religious tradition. Study of the Torah--which all Jewish men did to one degree or another--involved serious debate, commentary and analysis much like the Socratic method. They are the people of the Book and the Law, after all. so what you're saying is...being bible-thumpers made them into the literate, educated, knowledgeable people they are today? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spain Posted July 18, 2006 Author Share Posted July 18, 2006 so what you're saying is...being bible-thumpers made them into the literate, educated, knowledgeable people they are today? And Hezzbollah lobs a couple missiles over into Haifa. Anxiously awaiting the Israeli reponse... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ursa Majoris Posted July 18, 2006 Share Posted July 18, 2006 so what you're saying is...being bible-thumpers made them into the literate, educated, knowledgeable people they are today? What a shame it didn't work the same for Christians. Ah, well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skins Posted July 18, 2006 Share Posted July 18, 2006 so what you're saying is...being bible-thumpers made them into the literate, educated, knowledgeable people they are today? Not exactly. Thanks for giving it the ol Republichristian spin, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spain Posted July 18, 2006 Author Share Posted July 18, 2006 Not exactly. Thanks for giving it the ol Republichristian spin, though. And Israel repsonds with their old tried and true, but again it is a dud... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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