Jackass Posted August 16, 2006 Share Posted August 16, 2006 Who will be the worst offenses this year? SF Jets Bills Cleveland Possibly: Green Bay chicago Houston Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Score 1 Posted August 16, 2006 Share Posted August 16, 2006 There's no team where I'll avoid all their players. But I'd have to say the Jets probably have the slimmest pickings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Swerski Posted August 16, 2006 Share Posted August 16, 2006 I think that BUF, CLE, and HOU will be somewhat decent this year, especially the latter two. The Jets, Bears, Niners, and Raiders will not be able to throw the ball for crap, though. Outside of Portis, I'm not high on the Skins, either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexgaddis Posted August 16, 2006 Share Posted August 16, 2006 I think Indy will see a decline from the loss of Edge... probably end up in the bottom 5... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avernus Posted August 16, 2006 Share Posted August 16, 2006 Jets: I see no exception here Packers: I'd take driver and that's it Bills: I would take Evans at the right spot and McGahee at the right spot... Raiders: I would take RMoss...but until Walter takes over, I don't like LJ2 or Gabriel/Curry/Porter....whomever is the #2... I would say Texans but I think Carr will be serviceable...Moulds will be pretty good as a #3 and AJ will have his best year, IMO... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DemonKnight Posted August 16, 2006 Share Posted August 16, 2006 I think that BUF, CLE, and HOU will be somewhat decent this year, especially the latter two. The Jets, Bears, Niners, and Raiders will not be able to throw the ball for crap, though. Outside of Portis, I'm not high on the Skins, either. You mentally challenged? Santana Moss, Brandon Lloyd, Randel EL, Cooley AND Portis outa the backfield.... who do you double? Brunell is gonna be seeing man coverage all season long AND a short field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Score 1 Posted August 16, 2006 Share Posted August 16, 2006 You mentally challenged? Santana Moss, Brandon Lloyd, Randel EL, Cooley AND Portis outa the backfield.... who do you double? Brunell is gonna be seeing man coverage all season long AND a short field. I think this thread is about picking players for your fantasy team DemonKnight. Cooley would be a good TE. I imagine he just slipped Bill's mind. Mini Moss too. I think the rest are pretty useless for fantasy purposes though. Maybe Lloyd as a bye week filler. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TripleW64 Posted August 16, 2006 Share Posted August 16, 2006 I think this thread is about picking players for your fantasy team DemonKnight. Cooley would be a good TE. I imagine he just slipped Bill's mind. Mini Moss too. I think the rest are pretty useless for fantasy purposes though. Maybe Lloyd as a bye week filler. Gotta agree there with the inclusion of CPortis along with Smurf Moss and Cooley. Jets - new coach, recovering QB, no RB, no WR, Defense will be on the field all day. Raiders - no QB, no Defense and Moss is already starting to show his a$$. Browns - new QB, no OL, WRs are possible bye week fillins because they will be playing catchup. RB, oh well, I already drafted Droughns before he lost 2, and now possibly a third, center. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Swerski Posted August 16, 2006 Share Posted August 16, 2006 You mentally challenged? Santana Moss, Brandon Lloyd, Randel EL, Cooley AND Portis outa the backfield.... who do you double? Brunell is gonna be seeing man coverage all season long AND a short field. No, but my memory goes back past 2005 and I understand that what a player does in a different system with a different supporting cast doesn't translate into success in the Redskins offense. I also know that the Redskins do not have a halfway decent backup QB this season. THIRTY-SIX-year-old Mark Brunell will be throwing to those guys from behind a below-average O-line. If he gets hurt again (like he did in two of the past three seasons), that whole offense is screwed when Todd Collins takes his place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HowboutthemCowboys Posted August 16, 2006 Share Posted August 16, 2006 Jets: I see no exception here Packers: I'd take driver and that's it Bills: I would take Evans at the right spot and McGahee at the right spot... Raiders: I would take RMoss...but until Walter takes over, I don't like LJ2 or Gabriel/Curry/Porter....whomever is the #2... I would say Texans but I think Carr will be serviceable...Moulds will be pretty good as a #3 and AJ will have his best year, IMO... I agree with this except I won't be drafting Randy Moss because I'm not willing to draft him as high as someone surely will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keggerz Posted August 16, 2006 Share Posted August 16, 2006 you can look at how teams sucked last yr and the number of plays they ran and then try to figure out what % said players will account for LINK fwiw SF and NYJ ran by far the fewest offensive snaps last yr and that in and of itself means less opportunity to produce any kind of stats Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Score 1 Posted August 16, 2006 Share Posted August 16, 2006 No, but my memory goes back past 2005 and I understand that what a player does in a different system with a different supporting cast doesn't translate into success in the Redskins offense. I also know that the Redskins do not have a halfway decent backup QB this season. THIRTY-SIX-year-old Mark Brunell will be throwing to those guys from behind a below-average O-line. If he gets hurt again (like he did in two of the past three seasons), that whole offense is screwed when Todd Collins takes his place. I'd say the Skins have one of the NFL's top 5 starting O'lines Bill. Now depth...that's a concern. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Swerski Posted August 16, 2006 Share Posted August 16, 2006 (edited) I'd say the Skins have one of the NFL's top 5 starting O'lines Bill. They were terrible two years ago, but now they're a Top 5 unit? I don't agree with that. They're not terrible now, but are still average at best. The Huddle has put them in the "Treading Water" category. Edited August 16, 2006 by Bill Swerski Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keggerz Posted August 16, 2006 Share Posted August 16, 2006 Now depth...that's a concern. that is an understatement Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Posted August 16, 2006 Share Posted August 16, 2006 They were terrible two years ago, but now they're a Top 5 unit? I don't agree with that. They're not terrible now, but are still average at best. The Huddle has put them in the "Treading Water" category. That has Houston and Arizona far better than St Louis though. I'll believe that when I see it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildcat2334 Posted August 16, 2006 Share Posted August 16, 2006 No, but my memory goes back past 2005 and I understand that what a player does in a different system with a different supporting cast doesn't translate into success in the Redskins offense. I also know that the Redskins do not have a halfway decent backup QB this season. THIRTY-SIX-year-old Mark Brunell will be throwing to those guys from behind a below-average O-line. If he gets hurt again (like he did in two of the past three seasons), that whole offense is screwed when Todd Collins takes his place. Swerski- 3rd time we agree - I have been saying all long this is the year the wheels come off Brunell. I think this Offense is overrated. Once they can't throw the ball with success, I see Portis possibly struggling- Portis is still a quality rb- although I do think he will not live up to expectations Moss- numbers will take a hit Lloyd & Randle El- please Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildcat2334 Posted August 16, 2006 Share Posted August 16, 2006 Jets: I see no exception here Packers: I'd take driver and that's it Bills: I would take Evans at the right spot and McGahee at the right spot... Raiders: I would take RMoss...but until Walter takes over, I don't like LJ2 or Gabriel/Curry/Porter....whomever is the #2... I would say Texans but I think Carr will be serviceable...Moulds will be pretty good as a #3 and AJ will have his best year, IMO... Pretty spot on- although I think the Raiders will get it together- how long that takes, not sure. I still like LJ2, but not Porter/WR2- also throw in the mix Det, Cle, Tenn- all 3 will need to show me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackass Posted August 17, 2006 Author Share Posted August 17, 2006 you can look at how teams sucked last yr and the number of plays they ran and then try to figure out what % said players will account for LINK fwiw SF and NYJ ran by far the fewest offensive snaps last yr and that in and of itself means less opportunity to produce any kind of stats That's good info. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Score 1 Posted August 17, 2006 Share Posted August 17, 2006 They were terrible two years ago, but now they're a Top 5 unit? I don't agree with that. They're not terrible now, but are still average at best. The Huddle has put them in the "Treading Water" category. Look at the personnel difference from two years ago, to today. I would suggest you avoid looking in the rear view mirror too hard. And not to diss the Huddle's rankings, but lots of other sites (both strict fantasy football sites and main stream sports sites) have the Skins O'line ranked Top 10 to Top 5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilfish2 Posted August 17, 2006 Share Posted August 17, 2006 J - E- T- S.....jets.jets.jets Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Neutron Posted August 17, 2006 Share Posted August 17, 2006 J - E- T- S.....jets.jets.jets Yup. I might draft their D-ST in a pinch, but they have no offensive players I'd consider drafting at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABearWithFurniture Posted August 17, 2006 Share Posted August 17, 2006 THIRTY-SIX-year-old Mark Brunell will be throwing to those guys from behind a below-average O-line. If he gets hurt again (like he did in two of the past three seasons), that whole offense is screwed when Todd Collins takes his place. I think Brunell goes down this year as well...he's about due for another affliction... And I'm not so sure Todd Collins takes his place...Collins is better at calling in plays from the sideline than actually running them... I think they put Campbell out there at some point this year...this kid has got some decent tools to work with and JMHO once he gets a bit of experience he'll put up the same or better numbers than Eli... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDFFFreak Posted August 17, 2006 Share Posted August 17, 2006 I agree with this except I won't be drafting Randy Moss because I'm not willing to draft him as high as someone surely will. I got Moss with the 31st pick overall (mid 3rd round) in BOTH Empire league and feel pretty darn good about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DemonKnight Posted August 17, 2006 Share Posted August 17, 2006 No, but my memory goes back past 2005 and I understand that what a player does in a different system with a different supporting cast doesn't translate into success in the Redskins offense. I also know that the Redskins do not have a halfway decent backup QB this season. THIRTY-SIX-year-old Mark Brunell will be throwing to those guys from behind a below-average O-line. If he gets hurt again (like he did in two of the past three seasons), that whole offense is screwed when Todd Collins takes his place. They were defenitly middle of the pack last year. 38 sacks allowed ranked 18th (tied with bills). IIRC Chris Samuels was a 1st round draft pick who hasnt quite lived up to his potential. I think the addition of Al Saunders will have this OL playing up to its full potential (barring injury). I'm predicting top 5 in rushing yards and sacks allowed. Fantasy wise, players I wouldent mind having: Clinton Portis- Will start the season, will get 1200+ yards, will get 15+TD's, will wear funny outfits on Thursdays. Chris Cooley- 2005 (3rd season) 71/774/10 is defenitly money in TE man. leagues and would make a solid #3 wr. I see an uptick in his stats with the addition of Saunders (see Gonzalez). Santana Moss- 2005 84/1483/9 Lower tier #1wr awesome #2. I see a pretty big drop off in production for him this year in yardage. The Skins wont be playing from behind as much as last year and they have a solid chain mover in RandelEl. Redskins Team D- They are flying all over the field this pre-season. Had a bit of a drop-off last year but in 2004 they were a top 5 fantasy D in my league. I see a return to '04 form this year. Expect a lot of picks and fumbles caused by this secondary: CB's Carlos Rodgers/Sean Springs S's Adam Archuletta/Sean Taylor. All big hitters. I see many dropped passes/forced fumbles/interceptions. Shorter fields means more points for everyone. Brandon Lloyd- He has always been the #1 wr on a team with no running game and no other wr threats. We've all seen his many highlight reel grabs. Without the constant double teams I think he has the chance to steal the #1 spot. I will be targeting him as my #4/5 wr flier. So for you to lump this offense in with the Jets and the Texans is obviously utter nonsense and I accept your apology sir. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Score 1 Posted August 17, 2006 Share Posted August 17, 2006 I accept your apology sir. This is Swerski we're talking about DemonKnight. Even IF Bill were completely wrong, that ain't gonna happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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