Sully907 Posted October 26, 2006 Share Posted October 26, 2006 I just started doing pay leagues a couple years back(Finally got confident in my skills) The league im currently in has a 65 dollar entry,with a 140 dollar site fee,12 teams,with 65 going to each conference winner,and 340 going to the championship,so its really like a 5 or 6 times payout for winning in every possible way.Is this pretty standard or too low a potential payout? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grits and Shins Posted October 26, 2006 Share Posted October 26, 2006 You will find a wide variety of payout systems. My local is a bit non-standard. 12 teams, $65 entry fee PAYOUTS $60 - commissioner salary $70 - software fee 1st - 50% of the kitty 2nd - 20% of the kitty 3rd - 12.5% of the kitty 4th - 7% of the kitty 5th - 4.5% of the kitty 6th - 3.5% of the kitty 7th (Toilet bowl winner) - 2.5% of the kitty Kitty is comprised of entry fees after deductions + transaction fees - weekly prizes. The 1st $210 of our transaction fees are allocated to 3 weekly prizes. We used to pay each division winner his entry fee and each wildcard half the entry fee. Then there were payouts allocated to each stage of the playoffs. We finally decided that simply winning your division shouldn't be enough ... you should earn the money in the playoffs ... thus the percentage payouts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CowboysDiehard Posted October 26, 2006 Share Posted October 26, 2006 (edited) The league I run is as follows: $50 entry (12 owners) $60 Site fee 1st pays: $260 2nd pays: $150 3rd pays: $ 80 4th pays: $ 50 We set 4th be = to the entry because we've all been together for a while, and usually everyone who wins some $$$ 'lets it (the entry fee) ride' until next year. This took a little off the 1st place $$$, but i saved me having to collect odd amounts from 4th place & pay an odd amount to 3rd at the end of the year. Prior to the above scale, we used: 1st pays: 50% 2nd pays: 30% 3rd pays: 12% 4th pays: 8% So, what' Grits is describing is about average. Most of the leagues I'm in, 1st usually gets half the kitty after the site fee has been subtracted from it. Edited October 26, 2006 by CowboysDiehard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grits and Shins Posted October 26, 2006 Share Posted October 26, 2006 We set 4th be = to the entry because we've all been together for a while, and usually everyone who wins some $$$ 'lets it (the entry fee) ride' until next year. This took a little off the 1st place $$$, but i saved me having to collect odd amounts from 4th place & pay an odd amount to 3rd at the end of the year. Right now our 4th place is sitting at 72% of his entry fee ... and I don't believe our 4th place will ever get all of his entry fee back. However we pay $15 out each week ($5 to the highest scoring team, $5 to the team that started the highest scoring player and $5 for the team that won by the biggest margin). Several years ago we switched to 4 divisions of 3 teams to eliminated the double header. The problem with this approach is we had too many division winners and very often a division winner was rewarded because he was in a weak division while a wild card team with a superior record only received half the pay. The league didn't want to restructure the league ... so we restructured the payouts. Now winning your division only impacts your seeding for the playoffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CowboysDiehard Posted October 26, 2006 Share Posted October 26, 2006 Yeah, that 72% thing was what i wanted to correct. The next year at the draft, I was having to collect $6 from the fourth place team the prior year, and then having to remember to pay $16 to the 3rd place team. So, to bump up the 3rd place payout to be at least somethign worthwhile, we chiseled a little off 1st and added it to 4th and 3rd. I'm not in any leagues with weekly or division payouts...also, we dont have a pay per transaction system either. So set amounts work best for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockerbraves Posted October 26, 2006 Share Posted October 26, 2006 Right now our 4th place is sitting at 72% of his entry fee ... and I don't believe our 4th place will ever get all of his entry fee back. However we pay $15 out each week ($5 to the highest scoring team, $5 to the team that started the highest scoring player and $5 for the team that won by the biggest margin). Several years ago we switched to 4 divisions of 3 teams to eliminated the double header. The problem with this approach is we had too many division winners and very often a division winner was rewarded because he was in a weak division while a wild card team with a superior record only received half the pay. The league didn't want to restructure the league ... so we restructured the payouts. Now winning your division only impacts your seeding for the playoffs. Like the weekly payouts. Although $5 is more like bragging rights it helps keep the interest of owners who need instant gratification and it gives those who get off to an early season slump a new opportunity each week. To me FF has never been about how much money I take from my buddies it's all about bragging rights. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fpuma Posted October 26, 2006 Share Posted October 26, 2006 10 Team league Normally Its $65 entry and we have used CBS so $140 site fee This year $50 entry and used Fox Sports for free. Next year we move to MFL and go to $60 entry. But anyway our payout is as follows. $10 to weekly high score winning during regular season. $130 $20 to Toilet Bowl Winner 1st place 75% 2nd place 25% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mojo Rising Posted October 26, 2006 Share Posted October 26, 2006 (edited) 12 Team League $150 buy in $20 per trade per team $5 per add or drop $50 payout each week to highest scoring team in league 1st place - 85% 2nd place - 15% 3rd place - $150 We had about an hour discussion about what we would do, three managers wanted to have winner take all!! We though this was a good compromise. Current Pot as of Week 7: $3,615 Edited October 26, 2006 by Mojo Rising Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsmayes Posted October 26, 2006 Share Posted October 26, 2006 12 team with old college buddies and a $30 buy in: $360 $5/week for high score ($85) $275 60% for Super Bowl ($165) 20% for Runner up ($55) 20% for total points ($55) Most years the Super Bowl and total points winner have been the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xMRogers Posted October 26, 2006 Share Posted October 26, 2006 Ours is pretty high (with entry, real dollar blind bidding, adn loss fees per point, get's to about $700 a team) - 10 teams Payout is simply: 1st 50% 2nd 25% 3rd 15% 4th 10% Nothing ofr weekly/division/points. I've proposed it numerous times, but people like it to be "playoffs or nothign" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scuba chuck Posted October 26, 2006 Share Posted October 26, 2006 12 Team League $150 buy in $20 per trade per team $5 per add or drop $50 payout each week to highest scoring team in league 1st place - 85% 2nd place - 15% 3rd place - $150 We had about an hour discussion about what we would do, three managers wanted to have winner take all!! We though this was a good compromise. Current Pot as of Week 7: $3,615 Schnikes. I was just thinking that $20 per trade deal would keep the activity down. Halfway through the season you've got more in transactions than buyins.... Furthermore, your payout structure really changes the way you should approach the draft. Is it an auction draft? If not, no way I play in this league (not that ur looking for new members). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bustedflush16 Posted October 26, 2006 Share Posted October 26, 2006 10 Team League, No divisions $200 per team $1000 to Champion $500 Runner- Up $250 3rd $250 Regular Season Champ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sub150 Posted October 27, 2006 Share Posted October 27, 2006 i am in two league...one is 100 dollar entry, 12 team with $5 trades...winner of it all gets 60% of the pot at the end... and then i have my HS league with all my newbie friends...12 teams, no division, 10 dollar entry 10 to reg season winner 10 to runner up 100 to winner lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumbie Posted October 27, 2006 Share Posted October 27, 2006 Ours is a 12 team league. $110 buy-in, with $10 going to the website and $100 to the pot. The winner gets $600; second place $300 and third and fourth each get $150. Our trade/transaction fees go to a pot, which we use for a party for our league's "super bowl." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loaf Posted October 27, 2006 Share Posted October 27, 2006 (edited) Ours is a 10 Teamer and we were 4 payouts each season. $125 entry. This year we went down to 3. 65 25 10 Edited October 27, 2006 by loaf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yukon Cornelius Posted October 27, 2006 Share Posted October 27, 2006 with a 140 dollar site fee, WOW were the hell is this..... that is out ragoius Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fpuma Posted October 27, 2006 Share Posted October 27, 2006 WOW were the hell is this..... that is out ragoius Probaly CBS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PackerFanX Posted October 27, 2006 Share Posted October 27, 2006 12 team league (3 Divisions) Entry Fee = $350 Add/Drop/Trade = $1 per player Weekly loss fee = $5 Weekly high payout = $30 Division winner payout = $250 Toilet Bowl Payout = $125 1st Place ~ $2,000 (55%) 2nd Place ~ $1,100 (35%) 3rd Place ~ $500 (15%) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco Billy Posted October 27, 2006 Share Posted October 27, 2006 WOW were the hell is this..... that is out ragoius Helloooooo, CBSSportsline! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco Billy Posted October 27, 2006 Share Posted October 27, 2006 Cost is $55 per owner with $5 going to mfl.com and the rest returned as follows: $15/weekly high score for 16 weeks. In the unlikely event of a tie (based upon the complexity of league scoring), ties will split the weekly pot accordingly. $230 to TOCOL champion $115 to TOCOL runner up $70 to TOCOL 3rd place $45 to TOCOL 4th place as determined by TOCOL playoffs ------------------------------------------------------------------ 91% of fees go to awards, and even teams that miss the playoffs can pick up an extra $15 or $30 in weekly high score through the playoffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikesVikes Posted October 27, 2006 Share Posted October 27, 2006 (edited) I don't think that any league prize, such as winning your division should be returning your entry fee. All prizes, except for weekly high scores, should net you more than what you paid into the league in entry fees. One exception is if you award prizes to 2nd or 3rd place in your division, but it all depends on if you have weekly awards or not as well. Edited October 27, 2006 by MikesVikes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scourge Posted October 27, 2006 Share Posted October 27, 2006 cbs' early renewl is $130.. So.,... 10 team, league fee is $130 per team except the commish who puts his $130 toward the site. Transactions are $2 adds and $5 trades. Payout is 1st: 50% 2nd: 35% 3rd: 15% On top of that, weekly high points getter wins $20.. Aside from the outrageous cbs fee (The other league I run is on MFL), I think this is about the best I have seen.. I think the winner in the above league usually gets $650 - $700 So, winner is looking at 5x payout over his entry fee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XFlash Posted October 27, 2006 Share Posted October 27, 2006 (edited) League Costs - The cost of a franchise will be $78. League Payouts - Pay out will be 100% of franchise fees, minus the cost of running the MFL.com software, currently $69.95 per year, $7 per owner. TOTAL = $85. All payouts will occur within seven days of the week 17. Each weeks high score, in each conference will receive $5.00 and the top four playoff teams will divide the remaining pot as follows: 1st-46%; 2nd-31%, 3rd-15.5%, 4th-8%. Pay outs may be rounded to the nearest $1 where appropriate The current payout of the franchise fees will be: Award - Qty Each - Total Champion $300.00--------------------------------$300.00 2nd Place $200.00---------------------------------$200.00 3rd Place $100.00----------------------------------$100.00 Consolation $ 50.00-------------------------------$ 50.00 (Highest point totol between non-playoff teams) Weekly High Score 13 weeks at $10.00------$130.00 Total ----------------------------------------------------$ 780.00 We have used this format in my sig line leauge. It has worked very well, a few tweaks here and there. There is enough incentive for owners to remain comeptitive for the whole season. Edited October 27, 2006 by XFlash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaz13 Posted October 27, 2006 Share Posted October 27, 2006 We have a $200 entry fee + $5 a loss. $70 for MFL $25 Fantasy History(MFL extra) $30 Draft supplies 1st place= 600 2nd place= 300 3rd place= 150 4th place= 75 $25 for weekly high score $75 for highest one week score during season $100 highest point total for year $50 highest scoring offensive player $50 highest scoring defensive player We started this format 3 years ago after we only paid top 3. It gives everyone a chance to win something. Last year I was the highest scorer but finished 2nd. But I had alot of the highest scoring weeks so I made about $700. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mutine Bullfrog Posted October 27, 2006 Share Posted October 27, 2006 (edited) One league $250 Entry fee 14 teams $275 Division winners $1,200 Fantasy Bowl Winner (1st Place) $600 Fantasy Bowl Loser (2nd Place) $300 Consolation Bowl Winner (3rd Place) $250 Consolation Bowl Loser (4th Place) $25 for highest 2 week point total per division (2 divisions) $$1.50 per play involved in trades and or waivers. Waiver and trade money goes to and awards dinner, program fee and trophy Edited October 27, 2006 by Mutine Bullfrog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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