satelliteoflovegm Posted November 15, 2006 Share Posted November 15, 2006 WOW, if true I now lose by 43 instead of 26...SAHWEEEET Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi Posted November 15, 2006 Share Posted November 15, 2006 WCOFF has already made the adjustment. Season totals have not been updated yet, but I'm that is to follow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildcat2334 Posted November 15, 2006 Share Posted November 15, 2006 Unreal, I took out our league leader who was undefeated, survive LT's 4 td's and squeak out a  4 pt WIN, that is now going to be reversed and become a fat L????  PPPPHHHHHHHUUUUUUUUKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyBalata Posted November 15, 2006 Share Posted November 15, 2006 It's not even changed on NFL.com. Â Â Â And you probably won't see a change on NFL.com. At least in the past, when things like this have happened, I have not seen them update it, at least on the scores page on NFL.com. Â Our rules follow whatever MFL announces, which I would imagine they will do in the next few hours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azazello1313 Posted November 15, 2006 Share Posted November 15, 2006 So the Elias Sports Bureau, official statistician of the NFL, can overrule the referees on the field who ruled that there was a fumble? Interesting... Â Â the officials on the field made no such ruling. they only ruled that the play was still live when buckhalter grabbed the ball and ran in for the TD. the ball didn't hit the ground so they didn't have to make any determination as to whether reggie brown had control of the ball or not because it didn't matter. Â it only matters for statistical purposes, and all you have here is one statistician's initial gameday judgment being overruled by another statistician's review. Â most people this affects will be vis-a-vis mcnabb, but remember reggie brown will be affected by this too, losing a couple points for receiving yards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billay Posted November 15, 2006 Share Posted November 15, 2006 I'm fairly certain that CBS Sportsline's stats went final this morning. They don't make adjustments after the fact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theeohiostate Posted November 15, 2006 Share Posted November 15, 2006 do you Commishes go in and change the scoring yourselves? League wide emails? Â Â Â after futher confirmation, i have issued a league wide email to notify of the change. Luckily it didn't change any results.............however in a league i don't commish, i lost by 2 points and have McNabb, so i'm waiting on the commishes to change the scoring or notify us of the potential change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildcat2334 Posted November 15, 2006 Share Posted November 15, 2006 Was out of town all weekend, still have not seen the play in question....... Â Someone explain this to me, I am kind of in shock here. How in the world can this be ruled a TD pass? are they ruling it was neither a fumble, or a lateral? I cannot see how either one of those constitutes a TD pass by McNabb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi Posted November 15, 2006 Share Posted November 15, 2006 I'm fairly certain that CBS Sportsline's stats went final this morning. They don't make adjustments after the fact. Â and yet another reason not to use CBS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theeohiostate Posted November 15, 2006 Share Posted November 15, 2006 http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/homeNews...il.jsp?id=59613 Â Â It's on the Eagles website now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theeohiostate Posted November 15, 2006 Share Posted November 15, 2006 Was out of town all weekend, still have not seen the play in question....... Â Someone explain this to me, I am kind of in shock here. How in the world can this be ruled a TD pass? are they ruling it was neither a fumble, or a lateral? I cannot see how either one of those constitutes a TD pass by McNabb. Â Â Â more like a tipped pass is all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azazello1313 Posted November 15, 2006 Share Posted November 15, 2006 Was out of town all weekend, still have not seen the play in question....... Â Someone explain this to me, I am kind of in shock here. How in the world can this be ruled a TD pass? are they ruling it was neither a fumble, or a lateral? I cannot see how either one of those constitutes a TD pass by McNabb. Â Â they're saying brown never established possession, that it hit him, he sorta caught it but it flubbed out of his hands before two-feet-down-and-a-football-move, and buckhalter picked it up and ran it in, buck being the first person to establish possession. essentially it makes it like a tipped pass. Â i thought this was the correct ruling even when i saw the play live the very first time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackass Posted November 15, 2006 Share Posted November 15, 2006 is anyone familiar with yahoo's policy on updating stats like this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theeohiostate Posted November 15, 2006 Share Posted November 15, 2006 (edited) Stats Inc. has updated it as well.   http://snap.stats.com/premium/fb/boxscores...20061112021.asp   Espn has just also updated theirs too.   http://sports-att.espn.go.com/nfl/boxscore?gameId=261112021 Edited November 15, 2006 by theeohiostate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramhock Posted November 15, 2006 Share Posted November 15, 2006 (edited) My 23-year, TD-only, home league is in Eagle country, and the phone just rang and it was the McNabb owner. He wants his TD, which would give him high game of the week & the $100 that goes with it. I can't ever remember a scoring change that affected a TD, after the Monday newspaper, which was the barometer, but hasn't been mentioned in 15+ years. We have some new owners since then. I rule with an iron fist, making most every ruling (I am unusually fair dictator). But for this, I will go out to the league for a vote, 7/12 will set the precedent, last week's play inclusive in the ruling. So far, the voting is 2-2. Edited November 15, 2006 by Ramhock Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theeohiostate Posted November 15, 2006 Share Posted November 15, 2006 My 23-year, TD-only, home league is in Eagle country, and the phone just rang and it was the McNabb owner. He wants his TD, which would give him high game of the week & the $100 that goes with it. I can't ever remember a scoring change that affected a TD, after the Monday newspaper, which was the barometer, but hasn't been mentioned in 15+ years. We have some new owners since then. I rule with an iron fist, making most every ruling (I am unusually fair dictator). But for this, I will go out to the league for a vote, 7/12 will set the precedent, last week's play inclusive in the ruling. So far, the voting is 2-2. Â Â Â A Vote? Are you kidding me? That's about unfair as you can get. The play was called incorrectly to begin with, so he had those points from the get go. This is no different then the change made on the C-Pep to Moss TD. To allow the league to make a call on the offical NFL scoring isn't even close to being "just". Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyBalata Posted November 15, 2006 Share Posted November 15, 2006 My 23-year, TD-only, home league is in Eagle country, and the phone just rang and it was the McNabb owner. He wants his TD, which would give him high game of the week & the $100 that goes with it. I can't ever remember a scoring change that affected a TD, after the Monday newspaper, which was the barometer, but hasn't been mentioned in 15+ years. We have some new owners since then. I rule with an iron fist, making most every ruling (I am unusually fair dictator). But for this, I will go out to the league for a vote, 7/12 will set the precedent, last week's play inclusive in the ruling. So far, the voting is 2-2. Â Â 3 years ago, Tom Brady had a td taken away on a Thursday, original pass was changed to a lateral. I had won by 4 and instead lost by 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azazello1313 Posted November 15, 2006 Share Posted November 15, 2006 My 23-year, TD-only, home league is in Eagle country, and the phone just rang and it was the McNabb owner. He wants his TD, which would give him high game of the week & the $100 that goes with it. I can't ever remember a scoring change that affected a TD, after the Monday newspaper, which was the barometer, but hasn't been mentioned in 15+ years. We have some new owners since then. I rule with an iron fist, making most every ruling (I am unusually fair dictator). But for this, I will go out to the league for a vote, 7/12 will set the precedent, last week's play inclusive in the ruling. So far, the voting is 2-2. Â hmm, what exactly would be the justification for voting NOT to use the official stats? the fact that it wasn't in the monday paper? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theeohiostate Posted November 15, 2006 Share Posted November 15, 2006 (edited) Here is the response from the admin. over at MFL about the subject. Â Â http://sidelineleagues.com/forums/index.ph...407entry81407 Edited November 15, 2006 by theeohiostate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackass Posted November 15, 2006 Share Posted November 15, 2006 My 23-year, TD-only, home league is in Eagle country, and the phone just rang and it was the McNabb owner. He wants his TD, which would give him high game of the week & the $100 that goes with it. I can't ever remember a scoring change that affected a TD, after the Monday newspaper, which was the barometer, but hasn't been mentioned in 15+ years. We have some new owners since then. I rule with an iron fist, making most every ruling (I am unusually fair dictator). But for this, I will go out to the league for a vote, 7/12 will set the precedent, last week's play inclusive in the ruling. So far, the voting is 2-2. Â Â so if you vote against it, at the end of the year Mcnabb will have say 30 Td's, but the Mcnabb owner will only get credit for 29? Doesn't seem fair to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramhock Posted November 15, 2006 Share Posted November 15, 2006 A Vote? Are you kidding me? That's about unfair as you can get. The play was called incorrectly to begin with, so he had those points from the get go. This is no different then the change made on the C-Pep to Moss TD. To allow the league to make a call on the offical NFL scoring isn't even close to being "just". Â Â Â Not all leagues will be changing their scoring. I'm just sharing how I am handling it. Â BTW, you can take your and shove it up your . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramhock Posted November 15, 2006 Share Posted November 15, 2006 (edited) hmm, what exactly would be the justification for voting NOT to use the official stats? the fact that it wasn't in the monday paper? Â Â Â Yes, a "rule" known by only the more senior owners, but which has never needed to be addressed with the newer owners. Before this internet thing, the Monday & Tuesday (MNF) USA Today was the bible. Edited November 15, 2006 by Ramhock Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azazello1313 Posted November 15, 2006 Share Posted November 15, 2006 Yes, a "rule" known by only the more senior owners, but which has never needed to be addressed with the newer owners. Â Â sounds less like a "rule", more like "what we used to do in the stone age before computers". i mean, it seems like quite a stretch to say "we used to use the monday paper" means "we have a 'rule' that stat corrections are ignored". but hey, it's your league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theeohiostate Posted November 16, 2006 Share Posted November 16, 2006 Not all leagues will be changing their scoring. I'm just sharing how I am handling it.  BTW, you can take your and shove it up your .     Wow! Any league that doesn't acknowlegde the official NFL scoring is just  Why not set up your own NFL stats commission within' the league and make all the calls yourself, forget about the Monday paper alltogether then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codwagon Posted November 16, 2006 Share Posted November 16, 2006 Hmmm... so maybe the pass happy ways of the previous eight games is over now? Andy Reid is happy and the offense is balanced and McNabb owners just got 222 yards and one TD like the rest of us have been getting all season long from the other QBs. Take away the one Stallworth score and McNabb only had 138 yards passing and no touchdowns. Â Hope it was fun while it lasted... Â Â Â I think somebody owes McNabb an apology. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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