Wolverines Fan Posted November 28, 2006 Share Posted November 28, 2006 From KFFL.com Raiders | Shoop to replace Walsh as offensive coordinator Tue, 28 Nov 2006 12:42:44 -0800 Jerry McDonald, of ANG newspapers, reports Oakland Raiders OC Tom Walsh has been stripped of his duties as the team's offensive coordinator and will be reassigned to a different position on the coaching staff. Walsh will be replaced by AC John Shoop, who was the team's tight ends coach before the promotion and was the offensive coordinator for the Chicago Bears from 2001-2003. Raiders fans have to give it to you straight. When Shoop was here, he was Mr. Conservative. Three yard running plays and three-yard passing plays were the norm. If it was third down and nine, he would call for a three-yard pass play. When it was it was fourth and nine, he would open it up and call for a four-yard pass play. Maybe he has changed, but I doubt it. Then again, I don't think he can be any worse than Walsh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNOWBOUND33 Posted November 28, 2006 Share Posted November 28, 2006 From KFFL.com Raiders | Shoop to replace Walsh as offensive coordinator Tue, 28 Nov 2006 12:42:44 -0800 Jerry McDonald, of ANG newspapers, reports Oakland Raiders OC Tom Walsh has been stripped of his duties as the team's offensive coordinator and will be reassigned to a different position on the coaching staff. Walsh will be replaced by AC John Shoop, who was the team's tight ends coach before the promotion and was the offensive coordinator for the Chicago Bears from 2001-2003. Raiders fans have to give it to you straight. When Shoop was here, he was Mr. Conservative. Three yard running plays and three-yard passing plays were the norm. If it was third down and nine, he would call for a three-yard pass play. When it was it was fourth and nine, he would open it up and call for a four-yard pass play. Maybe he has changed, but I doubt it. Then again, I don't think he can be any worse than Walsh. I better run and pick up Moss for all those 3 yard passes he will get on 3 and 12! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Swerski Posted November 28, 2006 Share Posted November 28, 2006 Al Davis has officially lost his mind. Shoop is one of the worst OCs I've ever seen in the NFL, if not THE worst. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caveman_Nick Posted November 28, 2006 Share Posted November 28, 2006 Al Davis has officially lost his mind. Shoop is one of the worst OCs I've ever seen in the NFL, if not THE worst. You guys are blind. Davis wants the team to stop putting up so many points and ruining his shot at Brady Quinn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Posted November 28, 2006 Share Posted November 28, 2006 Is Aaron Brooks running the option now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Swerski Posted November 28, 2006 Share Posted November 28, 2006 You guys are blind. Davis wants the team to stop putting up so many points and ruining his shot at Brady Quinn. So, you think that Quinn will actually sign with the Raiders? I sure as hell wouldn't if I were him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msaint Posted November 28, 2006 Share Posted November 28, 2006 Somewhere, a B&B gets a terrific manager back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ursa Majoris Posted November 28, 2006 Share Posted November 28, 2006 Al Davis has officially lost his mind. Shoop is one of the worst OCs I've ever seen in the NFL, if not THE worst. Without a doubt. He was / is a cross between Mr Magoo and Donald Duck with all the offensive insight of a block of concrete. It astounds me that he can get a job coaching pee-wee, let alone still be hanging out in the NFL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitem0nkey Posted November 28, 2006 Share Posted November 28, 2006 so will see this site but it will be in silver and black. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azazello1313 Posted November 28, 2006 Share Posted November 28, 2006 Al Davis has officially lost his mind. Shoop is one of the worst OCs I've ever seen in the NFL, if not THE worst. and yet, he's still a clear upgrade Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azazello1313 Posted November 28, 2006 Share Posted November 28, 2006 i can't wait until al decides to stick it to the broncos by signing jake plummer as his starting QB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goopster24 Posted November 28, 2006 Share Posted November 28, 2006 May God have mercy on you Raider fans' souls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caveman_Nick Posted November 28, 2006 Share Posted November 28, 2006 So, you think that Quinn will actually sign with the Raiders? I sure as hell wouldn't if I were him. Sarcasm, meet Bill. Bill, that was sarcasm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Swerski Posted November 28, 2006 Share Posted November 28, 2006 Sarcasm, meet Bill. Bill, that was sarcasm I know, but my question about Quinn refusing to play for the Raiders was serious. If they have the chance to sign him, I don't think that he agrees to a deal with them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goopster24 Posted November 28, 2006 Share Posted November 28, 2006 I know, but my question about Quinn refusing to play for the Raiders was serious. If they have the chance to sign him, I don't think that he agrees to a deal with them. Think about it: He is going from Charlie Weis calling plays to John Shoop.... Even though I don't really like Brady Quinn and the Irish, I still think he could be somewhat successful in the league, given the right coaches. I was totally wrong about Vince Young because I forgot he has Norm Chow teaching him. Norm Chow is an unreal coach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Angry Pirate Posted November 28, 2006 Share Posted November 28, 2006 Watching John Shoop control the offense took several years off my life. Period. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caveman_Nick Posted November 28, 2006 Share Posted November 28, 2006 I know, but my question about Quinn refusing to play for the Raiders was serious. If they have the chance to sign him, I don't think that he agrees to a deal with them. If he has any insight into the perception it gave people of Wittle Ewi Manning, he will play where he's drafted... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Swerski Posted November 28, 2006 Share Posted November 28, 2006 If he has any insight into the perception it gave people of Wittle Ewi Manning, he will play where he's drafted... Or he could note that Elway probably never would've won a ring had he signed with the Colts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caveman_Nick Posted November 28, 2006 Share Posted November 28, 2006 Or he could note that Elway probably never would've won a ring had he signed with the Colts. You don't think Elway would have been a marked improvement over the Jim Harbaugh era in Indy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Swerski Posted November 28, 2006 Share Posted November 28, 2006 You don't think Elway would have been a marked improvement over the Jim Harbaugh era in Indy? Sure, but who would have thrown to? Sean Dawkins? Flipper Anderson? Marvin didn't mature into a solid wideout until Elway's knees were almost completely shot. The '95 Colts played well defensively (statistically, at least) and managed to squak into the playoffs via a Wild Card, but I don't think that they had nearly enough talent to beat the Cowboys that year. Given that the Colts had a whole 5 winning seasons during Elway's playing days, they were clearly lacking all around (especially on defense). As all Colts fans painfully know, a great QB doesn't equal a ring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caveman_Nick Posted November 28, 2006 Share Posted November 28, 2006 Sure, but who would have thrown to? Sean Dawkins? Flipper Anderson? Marvin didn't mature into a solid wideout until Elway's knees were almost completely shot. The '95 Colts played well defensively (statistically, at least) and managed to squak into the playoffs via a Wild Card, but I don't think that they had nearly enough talent to beat the Cowboys that year. Given that the Colts had a whole 5 winning seasons during Elway's playing days, they were clearly lacking all around (especially on defense). As all Colts fans painfully know, a great QB doesn't equal a ring. Maybe Quinn will realize that his NFL career will outlast Al Davis. Then again...maybe it won't Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaiderSteve Posted November 29, 2006 Share Posted November 29, 2006 I guess DMD was right when he said things would get a lot worse! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bears Posted November 29, 2006 Share Posted November 29, 2006 1st and 10 RB up the middle for one yard 2ed and 9 RB up the middle for -one yard 3ed and 10 dink pass to a WR to the right for -one yard 4th and 11 Punt yes thats about all the plays he knows Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bears Posted November 29, 2006 Share Posted November 29, 2006 I think John should try to trade 4 Anthony Thomas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brentastic Posted November 29, 2006 Share Posted November 29, 2006 Ugh, Shoop has to be the worst OC in the history of the NFL. Be prepared for many 3rd and long draw plays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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