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I only read the executive summary.

 

They suggest a sudden and signifcant increase of troops with a seemingly immediate withdrawl by March 2008. On the surface this comes across as relatively desperate and short-sighted. Is this purely lip service for any kind of goal towards stability? Did President Nimrod, Congress, and their incompetent supporters screw the pooch so bad, this has become the best option? It's not like this committee was comprised by a bunch of ignorant jackasses. :D

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Everyone they interviewed thought the war was a good idea.

 

Looking at the people in the group where are the mid east experts? They are politicians and Sandra Day O'Connor.

 

Looks like cover and withdrawing troops just before the 2008 election seems more like a variation of Stay the Course.

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Everyone they interviewed thought the war was a good idea.

 

Looking at the people in the group where are the mid east experts? They are politicians and Sandra Day O'Connor.

 

Looks like cover and withdrawing troops just before the 2008 election seems more like a variation of Stay the Course.

 

 

 

good point

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good point

 

 

 

They do have good recommendations, but I wonder if Bush will even take them. They were on TV this morning saying quick action is necessary.

 

Iran helped us get rid of the taliban in 2002. For their own security they could help stabilize matters now.

 

Personally I think if we keep bnuilding that humongous embassy and permanent bases the Iraqis will keep fighting us and the government there. We should stop.

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As I have stated many times, we need to withdraw immediately. Our mission, to overthrow a dangerous and brutal dictator WAS accomplished a couple years ago. Nation buidling aint part of the deal. And if those ragheads want to engage in Civil War, so be it. But it isnt our business...

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As I have stated many times, we need to withdraw immediately. Our mission, to overthrow a dangerous and brutal dictator WAS accomplished a couple years ago. Nation buidling aint part of the deal. And if those ragheads want to engage in Civil War, so be it. But it isnt our business...

 

 

 

Like Colin Powell said we own it. We may be able to re-deploy in the region to prevent the fighting from spreading. If this spreads to Saudi Arabia or other areas it will affect us greatly.

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As I have stated many times, we need to withdraw immediately. Our mission, to overthrow a dangerous and brutal dictator WAS accomplished a couple years ago. Nation buidling aint part of the deal. And if those ragheads want to engage in Civil War, so be it. But it isnt our business...

 

 

Cant take responsibility for yer actions? Want to cut and run? First you support this incredible blunder then you support those who killed online poker.

 

Yer doing a heckuva job, Spainy!

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Like Colin Powell said we own it. We may be able to re-deploy in the region to prevent the fighting from spreading. If this spreads to Saudi Arabia or other areas it will affect us greatly.

 

We dont own jackshi@te! We deposed a murderous dicatator who posed a significant risk to the US and the region. Mission Accomplished. Now lets bring our soldiers home...

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Cant take responsibility for yer actions? Want to cut and run? First you support this incredible blunder then you support those who killed online poker.

 

Yer doing a heckuva job, Spainy!

 

Uh, hey America Hater! Saddam is the only person responsible for this. We deposed him, mission accomplished. Lets move on to Iran and North Korea!

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We dont own jackshi@te! We deposed a murderous dicatator who posed a significant risk to the US and the region. Mission Accomplished. Now lets bring our soldiers home...

 

 

:D:D

 

Good luck with that one. Maybe you should have been thinking about all this three years ago instead of cheerleading this idiocy.

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Uh, hey America Hater! Saddam is the only person responsible for this. We deposed him, mission accomplished. Lets move on to Iran and North Korea!

 

 

 

Spain if the plan was to get rid of Saddam why not do it and get out? Set up some kind of leader like in Afghanistan? And leave.

 

The reason of course is the war was about oil and setting up 11 permanent bases in Iraq. Saddam was not the real reason for this. He was just one of the many excuses given for the attack.

 

Do you really think we are going to leave?

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Saddam murdered a ton of people when he was in power. Now he's gone and other people have stepped up to become the murderers. Whether we are a part of it or not, someone will always be there to keep the killing going. Murder is glorified as Martyrdom, and apparently there's just no fighting that sentiment.

 

Do we own it? Maybe. We took out the Murderer-in-Chief allowing a bunch of new candidates to try to make their claim for the office. But the people of Iraq own it much more than we do. Either way, whether we have an obligation to be ther or not, we need to find a way to stop being sitting ducks. If we cannot find a way to change that reality, then let's get the heck out. Our soliders deserve better than to become such an easy target for that kind of blind hatred.

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any actions or relationships in the middle east have always been and will always be about OIL. it's power politics and everyone with any sort of clue (rules out many americans) knows this. we were stepping into that area originally to not allow saddam to gain too much power. we are not stepping out now because we realize other nations may take advantage and again gain too much power. i'm not sure how the argument of "oh, now you're going to cut and run?" can be used against the administration when that suggestion was made mostly by those outside of the administration. now we have a report that says we f'd up and we need to get out gracefully. so be it, it doesn't change the fact that we are trying to handle it with white gloves and keep whatever relationships still exist intact. if we quit wasting time calling each other names in D.C. and get to work, we may be able to accomplish that. we got in over our heads in trying to protect our interests. as clark griswold says in christmas vacation, "Worse?! How could things get any worse? Take a look around here, Ellen. We're at the threshold of hell." now all we can hope to is get out as wisely as possible and retain our standing with the OPEC community.

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any actions or relationships in the middle east have always been and will always be about OIL. it's power politics and everyone with any sort of clue (rules out many americans) knows this. we were stepping into that area originally to not allow saddam to gain too much power. we are not stepping out now because we realize other nations may take advantage and again gain too much power. i'm not sure how the argument of "oh, now you're going to cut and run?" can be used against the administration when that suggestion was made mostly by those outside of the administration. now we have a report that says we f'd up and we need to get out gracefully. so be it, it doesn't change the fact that we are trying to handle it with white gloves and keep whatever relationships still exist intact. if we quit wasting time calling each other names in D.C. and get to work, we may be able to accomplish that. we got in over our heads in trying to protect our interests. as clark griswold says in christmas vacation, "Worse?! How could things get any worse? Take a look around here, Ellen. We're at the threshold of hell." now all we can hope to is get out as wisely as possible and retain our standing with the OPEC community.

 

 

It's about religion but no one wants to admit the truth. The Islam religion wants to take over the world. I've yet to see Osama and his merry band of suicide bombers blowing themselves up because of oil. Their last words are "Praise to Allah!". Fighting a religious war nowadays is too un-PC for anyone to admit. It's Christianity vs Muslims and that's the truth. The oil is just the financing for the radicals. Take away the oil and you'll still have the terrorists. Before oil was king, the Middle East still hated the West. The revenue from the oil in the past 50 years have only allowed them to carry out their agenda instead of digging around in the sand. And that's why we've had to deal with them in the past 30 years or so.

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