SLGRAF Posted December 7, 2006 Share Posted December 7, 2006 I had pretty much settled on starting Vince Young @ Houston over Eli Manning @ Carolina, but now, today's start/bench list gives Eli the higher rating of the two. Am I missing something?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingsleyjr Posted December 7, 2006 Share Posted December 7, 2006 yes you are, Young is a rookie who had 93 passing yds agaist Hou at home just 5 weeks ago. Everybody jumps on the bandwagon so fast these days. Eli will score more then Young this week, bet on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLGRAF Posted December 7, 2006 Author Share Posted December 7, 2006 Thanks for the feedback. I agree that Vince is not lock to have a huge game against Houston, but even if his passing yards are not great, he will still accumulate rushing stats, and in my league, rushing yards are worth alot. And, Eli was terrible for several weeks up until last week. Unfortunately, the other players on my team are not good enough to overcome a bad game by my QB, so if I make a mistake in my QB decision, I will probably lose this week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingsleyjr Posted December 7, 2006 Share Posted December 7, 2006 yes but what wil u get from him rushing on a good day 50 yds? Jeff Garcia just put up 300 and 3 tds vs Carolina, Eli obviously got u this far it would be a shame to get bumped by playing Young instead. JMHO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLGRAF Posted December 7, 2006 Author Share Posted December 7, 2006 Good point about Garcia against Carolina. And, looking at it, Carolina's and Houston's defenses have both surrendered 17 passing TDs this season. Hmm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingfish247 Posted December 7, 2006 Share Posted December 7, 2006 I had pretty much settled on starting Vince Young @ Houston over Eli Manning @ Carolina, but now, today's start/bench list gives Eli the higher rating of the two. Am I missing something?? Â personally, i don't get it either. Â yeah Eli just had a decent game but before that he went 3 straight with 2 ints and only 1 or zero TDs. Even more before last week's game vs. DAL, he's went 5 straight games with only 1 or zero TDs. Also, before last week he didn't throw for over 250 since week 5. Â now he's going on the road vs. a CAR D with playoff implications. Â Young is going into HOU that recently made a visiting JP Losman look like Steve Young allowing 340yds and 3 TDs on 26 of 38 attempts. HOU allows opposing QBs a rating of 90.8... only SF, TB, WAS, and DET are worse. This is before whatever Young does on the ground. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FantasyKing1 Posted December 7, 2006 Share Posted December 7, 2006 I would go with Eli easily. Caroilna pass D is not that great Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLGRAF Posted December 7, 2006 Author Share Posted December 7, 2006 Okay, I started this thread, and the permutations of Vince vs Eli are giving me a headache. Time to find some Advil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingfish247 Posted December 7, 2006 Share Posted December 7, 2006 (edited) I would go with Eli easily. Caroilna pass D is not that great  overall the CAR pass D is not that great, sure, but they're not as bad overall in both D categories than HOU.  passing TDs allowed don't tell the whole story... yeah CAR has allowed 17 pass TDs but only 5 pass TDs have come in 6 home games.  yeah HOU has allowed the same 17 pass TDs but HOU has allowed 8 pass TDs in 5 home games. They've also allowed twice as many total rush TDs than CAR (12 vs. 6). Edited December 7, 2006 by kingfish247 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Zuko Posted December 7, 2006 Share Posted December 7, 2006 I have the same dillema. I am playing Young. Here is why:  (1) The worse is yet to come for the Giants. Eli played well last week but the loss will deflate the team too much the rest of the way.  (2) Vince is playing in his home town which should punmp him up  (3) Houston passed on him - another reason to get pumped up.  (4) There is no pressure on TEN.  I hope I am right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLGRAF Posted December 7, 2006 Author Share Posted December 7, 2006 Well, since other people on this board are considering starting Young ahead of guys like Brees and Palmer, I have decided that he is definitely worth starting ahead of Eli, who has only had one good fantasy performance in his last 6-7 games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Zuko Posted December 7, 2006 Share Posted December 7, 2006 If you start Young over Brees and Palmer you should be committed, but Eli Manning is a totally different story. Â We'll find out on Sunday if we are dipsh*ts are not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingfish247 Posted December 7, 2006 Share Posted December 7, 2006 (edited) If you start Young over Brees and Palmer you should be committed, but Eli Manning is a totally different story. Â We'll find out on Sunday if we are dipsh*ts are not. Â i'd actually consider Young over Palmer vs. OAK. Â Brees is another story. I'd think twice before starting Brees but DAL is pretty stingy on pass D. Â I'd still probably go Young based on the intangibles and the numbers. Edited December 7, 2006 by kingfish247 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Zuko Posted December 7, 2006 Share Posted December 7, 2006 My opponet this week actually has Palmer. As I plan on playing Young, I hope your hunch is right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downwithdisease Posted December 7, 2006 Share Posted December 7, 2006 I am faced with the same problem and am starting young this week(1st week of playoffs) simply based on my league's scoring system. Rushing TDs are worth more than passing. I think you can expect a mediocre fantasy day from both of them though. In your situation (weak team) I would go with young b/c he has a better of a chance to put up monster numbers. Bottom line: neither player will lose the game for you and young has the possibility to win it for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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