Rockerbraves Posted January 22, 2007 Author Share Posted January 22, 2007 In other words: i have nothing but weak Sega! to say. Just saying read my post before you start taunting me by telling me I don't know the rules. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grits and Shins Posted January 22, 2007 Share Posted January 22, 2007 It would be like one of the stupidest fines in the history of the NFL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ursa Majoris Posted January 22, 2007 Share Posted January 22, 2007 It would be like one of the stupidest fines in the history of the NFL. Agreed. His team lost - that's gotta hurt way more than a pocket change fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Next Generation Posted January 22, 2007 Share Posted January 22, 2007 (edited) Yeah leave that to your teammates. If they didn't kick the #### out of him after the game, they should've. Nice try, but lame backpedal Bush (league). You proved you're just another in a long line of playahs with a zero on the class/maturity scale and spare us with the well-worn and equally weak "I was just being emotional" BS. lol @ being in your 20s "only a kid." OK then let's take away his right to smoke and drink and be out after dark jeebus, I guess you've never done anything you regretted shortly thereafter before, huh? Must be nice to be perfect. Edited January 22, 2007 by The Next Generation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockerbraves Posted January 22, 2007 Author Share Posted January 22, 2007 I was mildly amused last night when Aikman was saying there should have been a flag thrown. A few minutes later the sideline reporter came on and gave the correct explanation as you described. I'll readily admit I did not know what the rules were, but I was surprised that Aikman didn't know either. Not sure if any team has used that non penalty "NO TIMEOUT" rule in their favor before, but got to think if the NFL rules committee doesn't address it during the offseason we might actually see teams using it strategically to trick defenses. Don't get me wrong I don't think da Bears did it on purpose but if you watch the replay the Saints defense stood up and were obviously confused when they ran that critical play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ursa Majoris Posted January 22, 2007 Share Posted January 22, 2007 Not sure if any team has used that non penalty "NO TIMEOUT" rule in their favor before, but got to think if the NFL rules committee doesn't address it during the offseason we might actually see teams using it strategically to trick defenses. Don't get me wrong I don't think da Bears did it on purpose but if you watch the replay the Saints defense stood up and were obviously confused when they ran that critical play. No more confused than on the Bears side of the ball. I wouldn't call Grossman totally in control and all his linemen were wondering what the heck was going on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockerbraves Posted January 22, 2007 Author Share Posted January 22, 2007 No more confused than on the Bears side of the ball. I wouldn't call Grossman totally in control and all his linemen were wondering what the heck was going on. Would have been nice to see the referee called an official timeout at the time he saw all the confusion. Reminded me alot of those times when a ball is loose or forward motion has been stopped and all the players are just standing around because the ref forgot to blow his whistle. Some guy picks it up starts running and the opposing team doesn't know if they should chase him or not. aka ironicially MNF Bears vs. Cardinals when forward motion was stopped yet the ref never blew his whistle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HowboutthemCowboys Posted January 22, 2007 Share Posted January 22, 2007 Please post the NFL rule that says it is illegal to call a second time out. There is no rule. However, Grossman should be fined for being stupid. He called a play, walked toward the line of scrimmage then called timeout. Went to the sidelines and got a new play, called it in the huddle and walked to the line of scrimage and tried to call another one. All the while with a look on his face of a teenage boy on his first date....scared Sega!less. He should divide his game check from yesterday with the rest of his teammmates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rajncajn Posted January 22, 2007 Share Posted January 22, 2007 Wow, what a stupid thing to get all worked up over. So he pointed a finger & did a flip into the end zone...big *#$%ing deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushwacked Posted January 22, 2007 Share Posted January 22, 2007 Yeah leave that to your teammates. If they didn't kick the #### out of him after the game, they should've. Nice try, but lame backpedal Bush (league). You proved you're just another in a long line of playahs with a zero on the class/maturity scale and spare us with the well-worn and equally weak "I was just being emotional" BS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonorator Posted January 22, 2007 Share Posted January 22, 2007 isn't there a penalty for taunting? the fine isn't a big deal for me as much as what that could have cost his team in terms of a 15 yard penalty. he pointed his finger at the defense and then did the flip, both of which could have been flagged i would think ... from that aspect, it was not very smart because of the negative impact on the team. anyone know why there was no flag thrown? that surprised me big time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockerbraves Posted January 22, 2007 Author Share Posted January 22, 2007 isn't there a penalty for taunting? the fine isn't a big deal for me as much as what that could have cost his team in terms of a 15 yard penalty. he pointed his finger at the defense and then did the flip, both of which could have been flagged i would think ... from that aspect, it was not very smart because of the negative impact on the team. anyone know why there was no flag thrown? that surprised me big time. Celebration penalty is only in college that I know of. Hence the TO's, CJ's and Horn's type celebrations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonorator Posted January 22, 2007 Share Posted January 22, 2007 Celebration penalty is only in college that I know of. Hence the TO's, CJ's and Horn's type celebrations. taunting is a penalty, however ... true? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rajncajn Posted January 22, 2007 Share Posted January 22, 2007 isn't there a penalty for taunting? the fine isn't a big deal for me as much as what that could have cost his team in terms of a 15 yard penalty. he pointed his finger at the defense and then did the flip, both of which could have been flagged i would think ... from that aspect, it was not very smart because of the negative impact on the team. anyone know why there was no flag thrown? that surprised me big time. There were very, very few flags thrown in that game at all. I don't think the refs were paying much attention. It probably should have been a flag for taunting though...maybe the ref wasn't down there to see it or maybe he just didn't think it was bad enough to warrant a flag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
URLACHERisGOD Posted January 22, 2007 Share Posted January 22, 2007 I pointed at him and laughed after Chicago beat he and his team. Does that mean I'm going to be fined, too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Barons Posted January 22, 2007 Share Posted January 22, 2007 It was a dumb move but he was a man and admitted doing wrong after the game so I say forget the fine. You got to admit that he is one hell of a player and the Texans have to be kicking themselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocknrobn26 Posted January 22, 2007 Share Posted January 22, 2007 Wow, what a stupid thing to get all worked up over. So he pointed a finger & did a flip into the end zone...big *#$%ing deal. Although I hate all the "In your face" crap and celebration shenanigans, I see this as a tempest in a tea pot also! The nearest player was 20 yards away, he was contrite soon afterwards, and he's a rookie! Hopefully he'll learn. He has a lot of talent and hopefully the sense to learn from his mistakes. If not........another TO? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big John Posted January 23, 2007 Share Posted January 23, 2007 taunting is a penalty, however ... true? Yes, and preplanned group celebrations and using props is now a penalty, for examples. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNOWBOUND33 Posted January 23, 2007 Share Posted January 23, 2007 isn't there a penalty for taunting? the fine isn't a big deal for me as much as what that could have cost his team in terms of a 15 yard penalty. he pointed his finger at the defense and then did the flip, both of which could have been flagged i would think ... from that aspect, it was not very smart because of the negative impact on the team. anyone know why there was no flag thrown? that surprised me big time. His actions were during a play. My understanding is that you can't be called for taunting DURING a play. No penalties can be called. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ursa Majoris Posted January 23, 2007 Share Posted January 23, 2007 It probably should have been a flag for taunting though...maybe the ref wasn't down there to see it If the ref had been down there to see it, there's a job for him in the NFL and it won't involve wearing zebra stripes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big John Posted January 23, 2007 Share Posted January 23, 2007 His actions were during a play. My understanding is that you can't be called for taunting DURING a play. No penalties can be called. After he entered the end zone, the play is over. And unsportmanslike conduct (which taunting is a part of) can occur during the play and the refs will still call it if it occurs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNOWBOUND33 Posted January 23, 2007 Share Posted January 23, 2007 After he entered the end zone, the play is over. And unsportmanslike conduct (which taunting is a part of) can occur during the play and the refs will still call it if it occurs. He was making his "football move" before he entered the end zone. Everything I have heard is that "taunting" has to be after a play is dead. If the ball is live and you want to show boat, as in this case, then roll the dice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rajncajn Posted January 23, 2007 Share Posted January 23, 2007 Although I hate all the "In your face" crap and celebration shenanigans, I see this as a tempest in a tea pot also! The nearest player was 20 yards away, he was contrite soon afterwards, and he's a rookie! Hopefully he'll learn. He has a lot of talent and hopefully the sense to learn from his mistakes. If not........another TO? That's what I was thinking as well. From what I understand Payton had a talk with him after the play and he was very appologetic. He knew he could have cost us with his display & I seriouslydoubt it will happen again. Even so, I thought it was very minimal in comparison to what a LOT of other players do and I don't hear anybody crying about them. If the ref had been down there to see it, there's a job for him in the NFL and it won't involve wearing zebra stripes. That was what I was implying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadgerBacker Posted January 23, 2007 Share Posted January 23, 2007 Bush paid his penalty in the game outcome. If anything, his act raised the already high motivation level of the Bears defense through the roof. They didn't like getting shown up in their own house. At all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushwacked Posted January 23, 2007 Share Posted January 23, 2007 Bush paid his penalty in the game outcome. If anything, his act raised the already high motivation level of the Bears defense through the roof. They didn't like getting shown up in their own house. At all. I don't buy that. Sometimes players just play and have fun while fans and sports broadcasters make something out of nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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