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The only games I have been to away are the Bucs, niners, and Packers. I had a great time at all 3 and the fans for each of these teams are very cool. I got the boo's but that made me feel awesome. I went to the Bucs game this year and a guy said your team is gonna lose and I said what are you talking about the bucs f'n suck and he said yeah I guess they do and started laughing.... best time ever

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oh and I think we need to make a rule here that hurricane katrina shouldnt be used as a joke of any kind..That is not cool and makes your teams fans seem like pricks..Well they are pricks but yeah..

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lol I meant bucs typo...but the Bus sucks too, he couldnt wipe shaun alexanders butt

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lol I meant bucs typo...but the Bus sucks too, he couldnt wipe shaun alexanders butt

 

 

Nope, his Super Bowl ring would get in the way. :D

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Actually, I was treated pretty nicely during the 7 years that I lived in Indiana. :D

 

I'm sure that was due to the fact that you're an absolute ray of sunshine.

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Would you consider it "kinda clever" to make up sign that say "we're gonna blow you up like the Twin Towers" if the Giants were visiting? :D

 

I would think that that would be not clever at all. The Twin Towers weren't "blown up". They were "crashed into". If you want to be clever, you need to at least use the correct verbiage.

 

I don't want to get into the "politics" of it all because my opinion would invariably hurt the feelings of all the sensitive types around here.

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I'm sure that was due to the fact that you're an absolute ray of sunshine.

 

 

 

now thats funny :D

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I would think that that would be not clever at all. The Twin Towers weren't "blown up". They were "crashed into". If you want to be clever, you need to at least use the correct verbiage.

 

I don't want to get into the "politics" of it all because my opinion would invariably hurt the feelings of all the sensitive types around here.

 

Whatever dude, symantics. I find it despicable, not clever. I think in the future it might do you good to keep those opinions to yourself.

 

And it has nothing to do with politics and every thing to do with compassion and class.

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Whatever dude, symantics. I find it despicable, not clever. I think in the future it might do you good to keep those opinions to yourself.

 

And it has nothing to do with politics and every thing to do with compassion and class.

 

And your opinion and $1.09 will get me nothing more than a cup of coffee. My opinion will get you the same thing. However, my opinion did not include name calling and accusations. If by stooping to that level is the only retort you have then next time you might want to keep your "opinions" to yourself.

 

Compassion and class are realative terms. You don't know me from Adam. Who are you to judge what levels of those characteristics I have or don't have? Here is your problem with people today... everybody thinks they are God and the second somebody else's opinion differs from theirs then the other person is considered "ugly" "classless", and "incompassionate".

 

How much longer before this thread is :D ? :D

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Here is your problem with people today... everybody thinks they are God and the second somebody else's opinion differs from theirs then the other person is considered "ugly" "classless", and "incompassionate".

 

Hence your screenname? :D

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Compassion and class are realative terms. You don't know me from Adam. Who are you to judge what levels of those characteristics I have or don't have? Here is your problem with people today... everybody thinks they are God and the second somebody else's opinion differs from theirs then the other person is considered "ugly" "classless", and "incompassionate".

 

Totally untrue; there are a numerous reasons that people can look at the same evidence and come to differing conclusions - obviously everyone thinks his own are the most sensible but anyone with a bit of empathy and objectivity should be able to see validity in others views - as long as they are considered views.

 

That doesn't mean that there aren't ugly, classless, and incompassionate people like Ann Coulter and skins out there.

 

Bottom line is that even IF the "Katrina" sign is considered "acceptable" to someone, they should realize that it treads very close to a line of unacceptability that most REASONABLE people would see.

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Totally untrue; there are a numerous reasons that people can look at the same evidence and come to differing conclusions - obviously everyone thinks his own are the most sensible but anyone with a bit of empathy and objectivity should be able to see validity in others views - as long as they are considered views.

 

That doesn't mean that there aren't ugly, classless, and incompassionate people like Ann Coulter and skins out there.

 

Bottom line is that even IF the "Katrina" sign is considered "acceptable" to someone, they should realize that it treads very close to a line of unacceptability that most REASONABLE people would see.

 

touche

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And your opinion and $1.09 will get me nothing more than a cup of coffee. My opinion will get you the same thing. However, my opinion did not include name calling and accusations. If by stooping to that level is the only retort you have then next time you might want to keep your "opinions" to yourself.

 

Compassion and class are realative terms. You don't know me from Adam. Who are you to judge what levels of those characteristics I have or don't have? Here is your problem with people today... everybody thinks they are God and the second somebody else's opinion differs from theirs then the other person is considered "ugly" "classless", and "incompassionate".

 

How much longer before this thread is :D ? :bash:

 

I would think my opinion on the matter would be worth just a little more considering I live down here. And where do you see me calling you any names? I said I thought the signs & Katrina-related taunting were despicable, classless and uncompassionate, you said you thought they were clever. You're right, I really don't know you at all. But regardless, I do find it discouraging that you or anyone else would think something like that would be clever. I don't feel like I've "stooped" at all. I thought I was being very level-headed about the subject. :D

 

I realize I look at this differently than some do, but what I'm trying to do is explain to you why I look at it that way so that maybe you'll understand where I'm coming from. That's why I tried to use the Twin Towers analogy. If you walked into Giants stadium with a sign like what I said they wouldn't think it clever, you'd be lucky to make it out alive. You wouldn't walk into a maternity ward & start telling dead baby jokes would you? In Hurricane Katrina close to 2000 people lost their lives. The latest cost estimate is right around $81 billion. People lost their homes, their lives, their livelihood. Maybe that's hard for you to put into perspective.

 

Look at it this way, my family has lived on the Gulf Coast for well over 100 years. My Great Grandparents bought a house on Oak street in Biloxi & their Brothers & Sisters bought homes close by. When my Grandfather returned from WWII they built a house next door to them and had lived in that house for at least 60 years. 60 years, three sons & numerous Grandchildren grew up in that house. It held a lot of very fond memories for us all. That home had a lot of history in it as did that neighborhood that we all grew up for 5 generations. When Katrina came through it didn't just wash away the house, it took everything. It took all the history my Grandmother had collected there. It took photo's from way back when photo's just came out. It took my Grandfather's burial flag & Purple Heart. It wiped the place clean, not just the house, the entire community everything down to the grass that we all played on as kids.

 

Now my Grandmother has recieved what little insurance she would get and has sold the property to the casino's. She did well enough in the sale to buy herself a new house further North outside of Biloxi & live at least as comfortably as she did before. I think she would be ther first to tell you that having a house again doesn't even come close to bringing back what was lost. This Christmas the whole family got together on Christmas Eve at my Grandmothers house as we have for as long as I've known and we all sat & watched my Grandmother cry as my Uncle presented her with the replacement Purple Heart. This is just a tiny fraction the effects Katrina had on us. This is just me talking about my Grandmother. There are thousands and thousands of other stories to be told, many much much worse than mine.

 

Now, maybe if you have it in the perspective that I see it in. Imagine if you were me sitting in Soldier Field right in front of the guy holding that sign. How do you think that would make you feel? Would you still think it was clever? Compassion & class are about understanding how people might feel & showing the respect not to make jokes about it. There are of course different levels of compassion. If your friend trips & falls you may laugh at him, but we didn't trip & fall.

 

Now, I think I'm done with this.

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If Urlacher doesn't feel like an utter ass after that....

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That doesn't mean that there aren't ugly, classless, and incompassionate people like Ann Coulter and skins out there.

 

Of course, the difference is that Ann Coulter is able to make a ton of money off of her acerbic rhetoric, while skins is probably filling out a job application in crayon right now.

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Of course, the difference is that Ann Coulter is able to make a ton of money off of her acerbic rhetoric, while skins is probably filling out a job application in crayon right now.

 

The problem is that Coulter's acerbic rhetoric may damage the democratic process.

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Maybe that's hard for you to put into perspective.

You hit the nail on the head right there. I have decided to raise my family in a location where known catastrophies like this don't happen. I do feel compassion towards those that lost homes, heirlooms, and loved ones. However, not in the way of which you may want me to.

 

The definition of insanity reads: "doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results". National Hurricane Center Director Max Mayfield ended his 34-year government career on January 3rd because nobody listened to his forewarnings about a catastrophe like Katrina and his prediction of an even worse hurricane disaster is once again falling upon deaf ears. I understand that this is your childhood home. However, it's been said before and it's being said again: you are putting your lives at risk by living there. But, nobody listened. To make matters worse, they want government aid to rebuild the area that will inevitably be destroyed again. I don't get it???

 

If I stood out in the middle of a busy freeway and got hit by a truck you surely wouldn't be saying, "oh that poor man". No, you would be saying, "that's what that idiot deserves for standing in the middle of a busy freeway".

 

There are several multi-million dollar homes near Laguna Beach, California that are atop large bluffs that overlook the ocean. It has been predicted for years that a fault line in the Pacific is primed to shift and create a large tidal wave that will take out pretty much everything west of the 405. Of course, everybody there is playing the odds (just like those in the Gulf Coast) that nothing will happen. However, when "something" does happen, are we to feel sorry for them because they had the "bright" idea of building a house on the edge of a cliff? I think not.

 

People in the Gulf Coast (and before you even get ahead of yourself, I have personal friends that used to live in the Biloxi and Pensacola area so, it did hit home a bit) gambled and lost. I'm sorry but, it was a known gamble that was taken. If I go to the casino and lose $1,000, the government doesn't reimburse me. It was a gamble that I chose to take and it was a gamble that I lost. Plain and simple.

The fact that people want to rebuild what Katrina destroyed and take that gamble yet again with their lives and the lives of their families disturbs me greatly. They are taking a "life gamble" and it is a losing bet. That is the perspective of it all that I definately do not understand!

 

I am fully prepared for the onslaught of bashing that this post will surely bring on to me. However, I was touched by rajncajn's last post. I hate hearing about stories like that. It's just really too bad that there are people out there (not saying rajncajn specifically) that want to "rebuild" that area so that I can happen to them all over again.

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I am fully prepared for the onslaught of bashing that this post will surely bring on to me. However, I was touched by rajncajn's last post. I hate hearing about stories like that. It's just really too bad that there are people out there (not saying rajncajn specifically) that want to "rebuild" that area so that I can happen to them all over again.

 

No bashing coming from me. I can certainly understand how people not from here must feel and I really wasn't trying to make you feel like an ass as Chavez put it nor was I trying to give you my sob story. I'm just simply trying to put it in perspective. But this is our home and regardless of the risk we love it here and are resilient enough to stay. Maybe that does seem silly, but if you were from here I'm betting you would feel the same way. Actually, the last storm to hit here of this magnitude was Camille before I was born and nothing else has come close on the Mississippi Gulf Coast. As far as odds are concerned you have a better chance of dying in a car wreck.

 

For the furure here I personally have protected myself & my family as well as I can. We have insurance policies(now) that should cover us for whatever damage may be done. Before I thought I was covered through my hurricane policy and was told I didn't need flood insurance because I was out of the "flood plain." Now I have it regardless of our still being outside of the flood plain. I used to stay for storms when I was younger, but now that I have kids we pack up & leave every time and before we would take everything that's really important to us. Now I think I'll take everything that's not nailed down. :D

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The fact that people want to rebuild what Katrina destroyed and take that gamble yet again with their lives and the lives of their families disturbs me greatly. They are taking a "life gamble" and it is a losing bet. That is the perspective of it all that I definately do not understand!

 

 

:D New Orleans is an industrial and distribution center, and the busiest port system in the world by gross tonnage. The Port of New Orleans is the largest U.S. port for several major commodities including rubber, cement and coffee. The Port of South Louisiana, also based in the New Orleans area, is the world's busiest in terms of bulk tonnage; and when combined with the Port of N.O., forms the 4th largest port system in volume handled.

 

New Orleans is located in proximity to the Gulf of Mexico and the many oil rigs lying just offshore. Louisiana ranks 5th in oil production and 8th in reserves. Louisiana is also home to two of the four Strategic Petroleum Reserve (SPR) storage facilities: West Hackberry in Cameron Parish and Bayou Choctaw in Iberville Parish, Louisiana. Other infrastructure includes 17 petroleum refineries with a combined crude oil distillation capacity of nearly 2.8 million barrels per calendar day, the second highest in the nation after Texas. Louisiana has numerous ports including the Louisiana Offshore Oil Port (LOOP), which is capable of receiving ultra large oil tankers. Natural gas and electricity dominate the home heating market with similar market shares totaling about 47 percent each. With all of the product to distribute, Louisiana is home to many major pipelines supplying the nation: Crude Oil - Chevron, BP, Texaco, Shell, Exxon, Scurloch-Permian, Mid-Valley, Calumet, Conoco, Koch, Unocal, Dept. of Energy, Locap. Product - TEPPCO, Colonial, Chevron, Shell, Plantation, Explorer, Texaco, Collins, BP. Liquefied Petroleum Gas - Dixie, TEPPCO, Black Lake, Koch, Chevron, Dynegy, Kinder, Dow, Bridgeline, FMP, Tejas, Texaco, UTP

 

Now do you understand?

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You hit the nail on the head right there. I have decided to raise my family in a location where known catastrophies like this don't happen.

Ever heard of a tornado?

 

(I'll assume you'll be packing up the family and moving now.)

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Ever heard of a tornado?

 

(I'll assume you'll be packing up the family and moving now.)

 

I now live in a small town in northwest Iowa where we have had one (count 'em) one barely Category 1 tornado in the past 100 years. Plus, we have basements. So, no. I think I'll just stay put. But, thanks for your concern. :D

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