Snoil Posted January 29, 2007 Share Posted January 29, 2007 Ok, I have S Jackson and W Parker. That's 2. For the third it's one of these guys: Kitna V Young Lee Evans K Winslow And that's about it realistically. Leaning towards Evans pretty strongly for the most part. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grits and Shins Posted January 29, 2007 Share Posted January 29, 2007 Kitna? Really? In a TE required league I think long and strong about Winslow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocNiner52 Posted January 29, 2007 Share Posted January 29, 2007 (edited) If it's a TE required league then there's no doubt you keep KWII. He'll definitely be top 5 for TE's next year. I just think there's more available receivers to choose from than there is top TE's to choose from. You'd still be able to get a WR who's comparable to Evans. Not so with the TE's if you don't keep Winslow. Umm,your team will be Gellin' if you decide to keep Kellen Edited February 4, 2007 by DocNiner52 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dabuffbills Posted January 29, 2007 Share Posted January 29, 2007 Winslow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoil Posted January 30, 2007 Author Share Posted January 30, 2007 It is TE required, that's why he's on the short list. I honestly think he'll be better next year than this too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Beatings Posted February 2, 2007 Share Posted February 2, 2007 Winslow. but if Detroit doesn't make a move on another QB in the off-season, then Kitna might actually be a decent keeper. His production was way up there, just needs to cut back on the turnovers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darin3 Posted February 2, 2007 Share Posted February 2, 2007 Ok, I have S Jackson and W Parker. That's 2. For the third it's one of these guys: Kitna V Young Lee Evans K Winslow And that's about it realistically. Leaning towards Evans pretty strongly for the most part. Evans? Really? Are you expecting the WR talent pool to be that shallow? Kitna? I hope you're kidding. Maybe Young... how long are you able to keep the player? Most likely, though, I'd say Winslow is your pick as the TE talent pool is most likely shallow enough to where you want to keep an elite TE (assuming TE-mandatory). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Country Posted February 3, 2007 Share Posted February 3, 2007 Winslow. QBs can be found in the draft easily most years, and no way Evans can be considered in the top 3 rounds (which your keepers essentially are) unless it is a very large league (14 or more teams) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zooty Posted February 3, 2007 Share Posted February 3, 2007 Gotta be Winslow. QBs are easy to replace and Evans could be gotten in the draft if you really want him back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donutrun Jellies Posted February 4, 2007 Share Posted February 4, 2007 Tellen ya its Kellen ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoil Posted February 6, 2007 Author Share Posted February 6, 2007 To answer a few bits from above-it's 12 team league. Keep 'em til you cut 'em or trade 'em. No limits on how long you can have a player and no salary cap either. Going off our draft history, and the league is 12 years old with relatively light turnover so I know most of the teams pretty well, there will be few QB's or TE's kept. Gates will possibly be available for instance, as will Gonzo, Heap and Shockey. The WR pool will be very thin, RB's even worse, but I'm ok there so no big deal. There is a pretty good chance that Evans will be the only WR who scored top 10 numbers for the '06 season if I cut him, and that would place him very high on everyone's boards. He ended up fourth by our scoring for the WR position, we don't have points-per-reception, just yards and TD's. Colston and possibly C Johnson might be available (though I'm 99% sure the Johnson owner will cut McGahee not CJ) and if Gates gets kept then Plaxico is in the mix. As far as QB's Manning will be kept (shocking news there eh?) C Palmer too, probably Bulger and Brees as well. Other than that, I doubt any QB's get kept. So the projection is that much like past drafts, the few teams with fewer than 2 RB's are forced to scramble to get them as quickly as possible, but mostly the first 2 rounds are one long run at the WR position with a few QB's and even fewer TE's thrown in here and there, with maybe a Baltimore or Chicago caliber defense just for flavor. From my own standpoint-I obviously won't be able to get Winslow sneaky-deep like last year when I got him in the 5th (making him essentially an 8th round pick) but from a scarcity standpoint, there might be a couple TE's ahead of him (at least on many of their sheets) and TE's won't start going off the board til mid-1st at earliest. QB's, I'd be happy to have my current tandem back of course, but I can almost certainly get one of them back without even using a 1st round pick. Though having a Martz QB is always nice and Vince looks like a fine player so far. So the reason I lean toward Evans is based not on who the best player is, which is certainly Kitna, especially since we have thresholds to hit before getting yardage points and he was over 200 yds every week but one all season-the most consistent in the league with respect to yards passing. His value in that respect was excellent last year. Evans also does not have the most upside either which would be Winslow or Young depending who you talk to. But from a standpoint of relative scarcity, I really don't want my starting 3 WR's (we play 3 WR and a mandatory TE) to be Jericho Cotchery, Reche Caldwell and Mike Furrey if ya know what I mean. Evans is young, improved as the year went on-and also importantly so did Losman-and ended up with #1 starter numbers. I also like having a starting QB's "panic button" guy which Evans is for Losman. On the flip side, I have truly been hit-and-miss drafting QB's historically (I didnt draft Kitna or Young-get ready to laugh but I drafted Plummer and A Brooks last year) so having a solid QB might be a good idea in my case. Sometimes my patience at getting a QB has bordered on lackadaisical-so from 'keep myself from screwing up' standpoint some might tell me keep one that works! But I like Winslow the most of the lot personally, despite the late season fade. I just think I can get him back at a cheaper price than Evans, and ditto with Kitna. Thus the flip-flopping in my head which is likely to continue until late August..... And thanks for the input everyone so far, and hopefully more input too as I will periodically be checking on this thread to see what everyone has to say (and I'm sure Sharpie will be looking to see which way I am leaning too-so I might as well say hello to Sharpie right now LOL) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpie Posted February 13, 2007 Share Posted February 13, 2007 Keep the guy that will be the toughest to replace and would be the 1st on your draft board if you had not kept them already. Kitna- Top 5 in most scoring systems. Should look better next year with increased familiarity with the offense Evans- Not a big fan but he too was top 5 on a team with no QB identity Winslow- Valued, to me, in the 4-7 ranking range. At a position where only 12 players start each week and most rosters only run with one, I think you can afford to pass. He's still behind Gonzo, Gates, Shockey, Heap and maybe Crumpler or Cooley. I would be just as happy with any of those guys over Winslow. V. Young- #2 behind Manning over the last 6 weeks of the season I think Kitna was your most consistent player over the course of the season and there is no reason to think he won't do it again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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