Randall Posted February 13, 2007 Share Posted February 13, 2007 Is Buddy Ryan still alive? Bum Phillips is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grits and Shins Posted February 13, 2007 Share Posted February 13, 2007 Cept I was kidding... I agree it would be a joke ... but for some reason many think Norv is HC material. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhoops Posted February 13, 2007 Share Posted February 13, 2007 (edited) Wow, nothing like having a 14-2 season and losing your whole coaching staff That's really the amazing fact to me.....no OC/DC to move up into the position. I know maybe they should hirer Jim Mora to HC, Turner as the OC and Parcells as the DC..... either that or the jobs already Carroll's Edited February 13, 2007 by nhoops Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charty Posted February 13, 2007 Share Posted February 13, 2007 (edited) The reality, is that besides Marty, who I am glad to see go, the coaching situation in San Diego would be almost completely new at the highest levels and probably a one year gig anyway. This means another upheaval next year. I think they waited too long. But, AJ would not sign off on some of the assistants that Marty wanted to bring in this year. At least whoever they bring in will bring stability and a staff that should be together for a while. If it's not Mora, couldn't it end up being a one year gig for the next staff anyway? It's so late in the game to fill the OC, DC, that there's an outside chance that it could be an "upheaval year" anyway. Then next year, go after someone like Cowher or Parcells, who would have had a year to relax and refresh? I do agree with the Mora angle, no coach killer, and he's not in position to demand any control of personel decisions, which is something Parcells and Cowher would want whether it's this year or next year. Edited February 13, 2007 by charty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Beatings Posted February 13, 2007 Share Posted February 13, 2007 Let the Pete Carroll rumors begin... hated him as an NFL head Coach... but there's no denying his domination of the College game. Plus they wouldn't have to hire a moving van, so that's pretty much a done deal. I wonder if Dennis Green is still looking for a gig. I'm sure he'd still like to crown somebody's a$$. I've heard that he does already own a house in San Diego. ------ In general I think it was a bad idea to fire Marty. I disagree with Gritz that he will never be abel to win a postseason game. I think that's mostly just circumstance and not a reflection on his coaching skills. They're taking a pretty big risk here just to make sure that the GM has a HC that he gets along with. But then again, they've got so much talent on that team, that just about any meatball will be able to step in an instantly have a winning season. The only downside is that anything less than a 14-2 record will be considered a step back from this last season. That's more than a little pressure to put on a new staff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ursa Majoris Posted February 13, 2007 Share Posted February 13, 2007 In general I think it was a bad idea to fire Marty. I disagree with Gritz that he will never be abel to win a postseason game. I think that's mostly just circumstance and not a reflection on his coaching skills. They're taking a pretty big risk here just to make sure that the GM has a HC that he gets along with. But then again, they've got so much talent on that team, that just about any meatball will be able to step in an instantly have a winning season. The only downside is that anything less than a 14-2 record will be considered a step back from this last season. That's more than a little pressure to put on a new staff. SD is still a one-trick pony. A new coach isn't going to go 14-2, that's for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spain Posted February 13, 2007 Share Posted February 13, 2007 Isnt AJ Smith the main reason why Archie Manning did NOT want Eli to play in San Diego? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charty Posted February 13, 2007 Share Posted February 13, 2007 Isnt AJ Smith the main reason why Archie Manning did NOT want Eli to play in San Diego? I think it had more to do with Ryan Leaf and the pre-2004 Brees and the fact that in the 4 yrs prior to that draft (2000-2003), the chargers were 18-46. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grits and Shins Posted February 13, 2007 Share Posted February 13, 2007 In general I think it was a bad idea to fire Marty. I disagree with Gritz that he will never be abel to win a postseason game. I think that's mostly just circumstance and not a reflection on his coaching skills. Now that is some funny manure. His team this last year should have gone to the SB and defeated Chicago. Why didn't they? Poor coaching in the playoffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatman Posted February 13, 2007 Share Posted February 13, 2007 I like the Vermeil idea... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Beatings Posted February 13, 2007 Share Posted February 13, 2007 Now that is some funny manure. His team this last year should have gone to the SB and defeated Chicago. Why didn't they? Poor coaching in the playoffs. I think it had more to do with the turnovers than anything else (not to mention that NE is a pretty darn good team). You've made it more than clear how you feel about his coaching ability. And its not an argument without merit. I just happen to disagree with your overall conclusion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockerbraves Posted February 13, 2007 Share Posted February 13, 2007 Pete Carroll might be interested in starting over somewhere if there is any truth that he's potentially going thru a messy high expensive divorce like Parcells? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grits and Shins Posted February 13, 2007 Share Posted February 13, 2007 I think it had more to do with the turnovers than anything else (not to mention that NE is a pretty darn good team). You've made it more than clear how you feel about his coaching ability. And its not an argument without merit. I just happen to disagree with your overall conclusion. You don't think it is the HC's job to have his team ready for the game? Including the ability to play with a minimum of penalties and turnovers? Is it the HC's job to put a game plan together? Maybe he could have decided to get LT more than 9 touches in the 2nd half? Putting all that aside ... don't you think SD defeats NE if they don't piss away two time outs for no reason what-so-ever? Who manages the time outs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Dick Posted February 13, 2007 Share Posted February 13, 2007 Pete Carroll might be interested in starting over somewhere if there is any truth that he's potentially going thru a messy high expensive divorce like Parcells? If he's going through a messy divorce NOW it would behoove him to wait until the divorce is final before going somewhere to make more money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xMRogers Posted February 13, 2007 Share Posted February 13, 2007 My first thought on hearing this is that the NFL coaching carousel is getting crazier and crazier as pressures seem to continue to mount due to the amount of money involved with the NFL. Right now, 2 of the 12 (so 1/6th) of the playoff teams have lost coaches, another had to take a leave of absence, and a fouth (Coughlin) barely held on to his job....and these were the best 12 teams in the league. Now, a lot of that wasn't necessarily on-field issues, but I think that goes to show that it's not just players that can have off-field problems, be they personal, financial or contractual, creep into the locker room. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockerbraves Posted February 13, 2007 Share Posted February 13, 2007 If he's going through a messy divorce NOW it would behoove him to wait until the divorce is final before going somewhere to make more money. Good point. But how often does a job like this come along. If you think about it maybe that was the plan and that's why they offered Shotty only a one year extension. Here's another thing to think about that was speculated in a LA Times article: USC assistant head coach Steve Sarkisian might have backed out of an expected offer to become coach of the Oakland Raiders to position himself to succeed Carroll or perhaps join him as offensive coordinator in San Diego. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexgaddis Posted February 13, 2007 Share Posted February 13, 2007 We will gve you Brad Childress for LT... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Dick Posted February 13, 2007 Share Posted February 13, 2007 We will gve you Brad Childress for LT... That would never happen. The league wouldn't allow it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexgaddis Posted February 13, 2007 Share Posted February 13, 2007 That would never happen. The league wouldn't allow it. I look at it this way, SD needs a coach, and Minnie needs an offensive playmaker.. ...Its a win-win! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whiskey Pimp Posted February 13, 2007 Share Posted February 13, 2007 Some of the names I heard thrown around on NFL Network were Mariucci, Martz, Norv and Carroll FWIW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NAUgrad Posted February 13, 2007 Share Posted February 13, 2007 Coached him in the Senior Bowl if I remember correctly. IMO Chow would be a great hire. He coached Rivers at NC State and really helped his development. That offense was never better than when Chow was with him. He could really help River's development at the pro level as well. I don't question the firing of Marty, I question the timing. He was obviously not fired because of his lack of wins in the playoffs. If that were the case, he would've been fired right after the loss. Nope, somebody pissed on somebody's Post toasties and now SD has to pick up the leftovers to take over as head coach and coordinators. Really bad timing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovers Posted February 13, 2007 Share Posted February 13, 2007 On ESPN's Cold Pizza, they said the thing that broke the camel's back was that Schotty wanted to decide which coaches to bring in, while Smith wanted control. On one hand, I think it's counter productive to shove coaches, especially coordinators, down a HC's throat, but since Schotty refused to sign an extension, I can also see why Smith would want to do the hiring. One of em had to go, and since it looked like Schotty had one foot out the door..... I wonder if this affects Turner's situation any? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grits and Shins Posted February 13, 2007 Share Posted February 13, 2007 My first thought on hearing this is that the NFL coaching carousel is getting crazier and crazier as pressures seem to continue to mount due to the amount of money involved with the NFL. Right now, 2 of the 12 (so 1/6th) of the playoff teams have lost coaches, another had to take a leave of absence, and a fouth (Coughlin) barely held on to his job....and these were the best 12 teams in the league. Now, a lot of that wasn't necessarily on-field issues, but I think that goes to show that it's not just players that can have off-field problems, be they personal, financial or contractual, creep into the locker room. The media speculated wildly that Coughlin would be fired. The NYG organization was stead fast in its support of him. Not sure how you think that translates to he "barely held onto his job". Reid taking a LOA is totally unrelated to the coaching carousel. He is dealing with family issues unrelated to football. To include him doesn't seem appropriate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xMRogers Posted February 13, 2007 Share Posted February 13, 2007 The media speculated wildly that Coughlin would be fired. The NYG organization was stead fast in its support of him. Not sure how you think that translates to he "barely held onto his job". Reid taking a LOA is totally unrelated to the coaching carousel. He is dealing with family issues unrelated to football. To include him doesn't seem appropriate. If you don't think Coughlin was at some kind of risk after the way the team performed regardless of the votes of confidence, I think you are being a bit naiv As far as Reid, I'm a huge supporter of his, but to say not including him with the rest would tell me my point didn't get across - the point is that the coaching profession has become so high pressured and has so many extraneous parts, that even the best of coaches that are actually enjoying success on the field are having difficult times, be it cause of personal lives, conflict with other management players or owners, on top of the normal "the team sucks". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REZ Posted February 13, 2007 Share Posted February 13, 2007 The media was speculating Coughlin would be let go because just about every player on that team spoke out against him. Easier to get rid on 1 coach then 40-50 players. I don't see Carroll going to SD, especially at this point in the season. He wouldn't be offered a lot of say in personal matters and he could get that in other places. Miami was offering him near total say so. Why would he go to San Diego without that power. Chow would be a good hire and has more then put in his dues. I see SD going with a retread though rather then hiring a new coach. Mora, Martz and Marucci are the most likely ones to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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