Bill Swerski Posted April 12, 2007 Share Posted April 12, 2007 No way in hell that Bledsoe gets into the Hall. He had a very good career, but was only an elite QB for about two seasons. You need to dominate the game at your position (or at least be one of the Top 3 in the league for a while) to be a HOF QB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caveman_Nick Posted April 12, 2007 Share Posted April 12, 2007 Troy didn't crumble under pressure and actually was a leader on his team ... that in NO WAY compares to Aikman. Aikman could make the play when it counted, not so Blesoe. Comparing Bledsoe to Aikman is like saying that Joe Montana and Ryan Leaf were the same except that Montana went to a better team. This comparison is idiotic in the extreme. I can't even dignify it with a counter argument. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DemonKnight Posted April 12, 2007 Share Posted April 12, 2007 These are the "modern" QBs in the HOF. Would you pick Bledsoe over any of these guys? Consider Favre, Manning, and Brady are also going to be on this list someday... Troy Aikman 1989-2000 - They are about equal in my book as far as raw talent. You must agree Aikman had a much better supporting cast for his entire career. John Elway 1983-1998 - No. Dan Fouts 1973-1987 - Never saw him play. Honestly couldnt tell you which team he played for. Jim Kelly 1986-1996 - I would take Bledsoe over Kelly. Again, Kelly had a much better D, a much better RB and only went to the SB so many times cause the AFC sucked in those days. Dan Marino 1983-1999 - No. Joe Montana 1979-1994 - No. Warren Moon 1984-2000 - Didnt see enough of his "good days" to really form an opinion. Steve Young 1985-1999 - No. He might be the best of the rest, as I've been trying to come up with anyone with similar credentials (other than Testaverde). I just don't think of him in the same category as even a Warren Moon or Dan Fouts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grits and Shins Posted April 12, 2007 Share Posted April 12, 2007 This comparison is idiotic in the extreme. I can't even dignify it with a counter argument. I agree, no way can Bledsoe be compared to Aikman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainHook Posted April 12, 2007 Share Posted April 12, 2007 Dan Fouts 1973-1987 - Never saw him play. Honestly couldnt tell you which team he played for. No offense, but your opinion means squat to me now. . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainHook Posted April 12, 2007 Share Posted April 12, 2007 (edited) Jim Kelly 1986-1996 - I would take Bledsoe over Kelly. Again, Kelly had a much better D, a much better RB and only went to the SB so many times cause the AFC sucked in those days. You've got to be kidding me. Kelly and his K-Gun offense was amazing. He revolutionized the no-huddle offense, and because of what he did on the field, teams like the Colts and Peyton Manning took it to another level. And correct me if I'm wrong, but Bledsoe did have Curtis Martin, a HOF RB in his own right. In my opinion, if what you did on the field changes the postion forever, and you revolutionized the game, even if you don't have ridiculous stats, you should be in the Hall of Fame. Edited April 12, 2007 by CaptainHook Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DemonKnight Posted April 12, 2007 Share Posted April 12, 2007 No offense, but your opinion means squat to me now. . . None taken. I've just never caught him on NFL films... Nor did he play for the team I grew up watching. So who did he play for? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grits and Shins Posted April 12, 2007 Share Posted April 12, 2007 These are the "modern" QBs in the HOF. Would you pick Bledsoe over any of these guys? Consider Favre, Manning, and Brady are also going to be on this list someday... Troy Aikman 1989-2000 - They are about equal in my book as far as raw talent. You must agree Aikman had a much better supporting cast for his entire career. John Elway 1983-1998 - No. Dan Fouts 1973-1987 - Never saw him play. Honestly couldnt tell you which team he played for. Jim Kelly 1986-1996 - I would take Bledsoe over Kelly. Again, Kelly had a much better D, a much better RB and only went to the SB so many times cause the AFC sucked in those days. Dan Marino 1983-1999 - No. Joe Montana 1979-1994 - No. Warren Moon 1984-2000 - Didnt see enough of his "good days" to really form an opinion. Steve Young 1985-1999 - No. He might be the best of the rest, as I've been trying to come up with anyone with similar credentials (other than Testaverde). I just don't think of him in the same category as even a Warren Moon or Dan Fouts. You are some serious drugs. Aikman proved over and over he could get it done when it counted, Blesoe proved over and over he couldn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainHook Posted April 12, 2007 Share Posted April 12, 2007 None taken. I've just never caught him on NFL films... Nor did he play for the team I grew up watching. So who did he play for? The San Diego Chargers. Google "Air Coryell" please. . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Swerski Posted April 12, 2007 Share Posted April 12, 2007 (edited) You've got to be kidding me. Kelly and his K-Gun offense was amazing. He revolutionized the no-huddle offense, and because of what he did on the field, teams like the Colts and Peyton Manning took it to another level. +1 Bledsoe couldn't carry Kelly's or Fouts' jockstrap. And that's saying a lot, becuase Bledsoe was a solid QB in his prime. And correct me if I'm wrong, but Bledsoe did have Curtis Martin, a HOF RB in his own right. Not to mention Terry Glenn and Troy Brown in their primes. EDIT: Oh, AND Ben Coates. Edited April 12, 2007 by Bill Swerski Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildcat2334 Posted April 12, 2007 Share Posted April 12, 2007 None taken. I've just never caught him on NFL films... Nor did he play for the team I grew up watching. So who did he play for? oh boy- u serious with this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chavez Posted April 12, 2007 Share Posted April 12, 2007 Not a HOFer. He's Jim Everett with a longer career. I agree 100% with this. And I LIKED Everett, so that isn't a slam in the least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chavez Posted April 12, 2007 Share Posted April 12, 2007 If you could choose any quarterback in time to lead your team, how long would it be before you reached Drew Bledsoe? It'd be a long ass time, IMO. Not a Hall of Famer. I think that is a fair question, in theory, if you add the caveat that he would be "in his prime" and how long that prime lasted - in other words, "if you could have any QB in his prime lead your team, how long would it be before you reached Drew Bledsoe?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chavez Posted April 12, 2007 Share Posted April 12, 2007 Don't forget that he had his best years in the more difficult pre-salary cap era. He was a very good player in the early through mid-late 90's Bledsoe was superb in '96 and '97 ('97 was probably his best year) - most years before and after that he was pretty much average to a bit above average. That ain't a HoF recipe, sorry. Not to mention the "pre-salary cap era" ended in '93 - the year Bledsoe was drafted. His inflated numbers top those of current HoFers because '92 was the year the NFL further tightened up pass interference rules, resulting in the bloat in passing-game numbers (and offensive #s across the board) that we've seen over the past 15 or so years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HowboutthemCowboys Posted April 12, 2007 Share Posted April 12, 2007 Aikman proved over and over he could get it done when it counted, Bledsoe proved over and over he couldn't. exactly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chavez Posted April 12, 2007 Share Posted April 12, 2007 ...if by "proved he could get it done" you mean "handed the ball to Emmitt Smith in crunch time", Aikman was the best I've ever seen at that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charty Posted April 12, 2007 Share Posted April 12, 2007 I'm a Pats fan, but I agree that he's a boarderline HOF'er that won't get in. In the late 90's, I'd have the argument all the time with a buddy that was stat crazy. He'd be like "he's thrown for 25,000 yards in his first 6 years, on pace with Marino, 150 TDs, blah blah blah". And I'd be like that's great, he's a numbers machine, but just watch him. He has nearly the same amount of INTs as TDs, he's not a great leader, and he has the knack for coming up empty when you really need him to come up big. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caveman_Nick Posted April 12, 2007 Share Posted April 12, 2007 Bledsoe was superb in '96 and '97 ('97 was probably his best year) - most years before and after that he was pretty much average to a bit above average. That ain't a HoF recipe, sorry. Not to mention the "pre-salary cap era" ended in '93 - the year Bledsoe was drafted. His inflated numbers top those of current HoFers because '92 was the year the NFL further tightened up pass interference rules, resulting in the bloat in passing-game numbers (and offensive #s across the board) that we've seen over the past 15 or so years. While that may be true, the ramifications of free agency didn't really start to unravel for a few seasons as contracts began to expire, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msaint Posted April 13, 2007 Share Posted April 13, 2007 (edited) Speaking of the Hall of Fame! Again we're back to the FANTASY Hall of Fame. Majikowski (87), Beuerlein (99), Volek (end of 04), Grbac (00), Kordell Stewart and Jeff George (97), Romo (last half of 06) the list of fantasy HOF QB's through the years goes on... Edited April 13, 2007 by msaint Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big John Posted April 13, 2007 Share Posted April 13, 2007 Again we're back to the FANTASY Hall of Fame. Majikowski (87), That would be 1989. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Irish Doggy Posted April 13, 2007 Share Posted April 13, 2007 You know it occurred to me that an analogy might help here. Tim Couch could have been the next Marino, except he went to a really crappy team. Now, if you take a guy like Bledsoe, who performed on crappy teams, that is clearly better than a guy like John Elway who was on already on established teams when he won his rings. Therefore Bledsoe should be in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DKF Posted April 13, 2007 Share Posted April 13, 2007 IMHO there is more to getting into the HOF than stats and rings or the lack thereof. The people that vote on this will always remember Bledsoe being a class act. A person that brought class and dignity to the NFL. That is what will tip the scale and get him in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chavez Posted April 13, 2007 Share Posted April 13, 2007 While that may be true, the ramifications of free agency didn't really start to unravel for a few seasons as contracts began to expire, etc. :ahem: Reggie White, anybody? Possibly the best FA signing in the history of FA was made in the FIRST year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chavez Posted April 13, 2007 Share Posted April 13, 2007 You know it occurred to me that an analogy might help here. Tim Couch could have been the next Marino, except he went to a really crappy team. Now, if you take a guy like Bledsoe, who performed on crappy teams, that is clearly better than a guy like John Elway who was on already on established teams when he won his rings. Therefore Bledsoe should be in. I am dumber for having read that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msaint Posted April 13, 2007 Share Posted April 13, 2007 That would be 1989. yup, was just coming back to fix that. 4,138 yards, 27 TD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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