Imus update

[Bill Swerski]

Sharpton's whole life is dependent on attacking whites.... without that, he's nothing. He is counter productive to peaceful coexistance between peoples.... he' far more than Imus, an instigator of racial hatred.

 

[Jimmy Neutron]

I think it's ridiculous he's losing his job over this. I'm no huge Imus fan or anything, but the man stood up and took responsibility for what he did and apologized (over and over and over). Enough already. CBS knew what they had in Imus when they hired him and they've been more than happy to be making money from airing his show all these years. Now that the Sega! hits the fan, they cave to the Sharpton and Jackson crowd like a bunch of cowards. Pfft.

 

 

Bingo.

[The Irish Doggy]

I think it's ridiculous he's losing his job over this. I'm no huge Imus fan or anything, but the man stood up and took responsibility for what he did and apologized (over and over and over). Enough already. CBS knew what they had in Imus when they hired him and they've been more than happy to be making money from airing his show all these years. Now that the Sega! hits the fan, they cave to the Sharpton and Jackson crowd like a bunch of cowards. Pfft.

 

 

Well said.

 

I'm so sick of this society that is unable to accept a sincere apology. The only thing that matters anymore is revenge. Heaven forbid the basketball players even get caught in a moment of personal weakness and say something they wish they could take back.

[godtomsatan]

What does the color of his skin have to do with this?

 

 

Everything.

[Czarina]

I was just reading (ok, skimming) an article at cnn.com that says that Imus' show represented about 20 million in ad revenues to CBS...and that that 20 mill only accounts for about 1% of their revenues.

 

I think they could have chosen to ride out the storm of negative publicity if they'd have chosen that course of action.

[dmarc117]

I was just reading (ok, skimming) an article at cnn.com that says that Imus' show represented about 20 million in ad revenues to CBS...and that that 20 mill only accounts for about 1% of their revenues.

 

I think they could have chosen to ride out the storm of negative publicity if they'd have chosen that course of action.

 

 

 

it wouldnt die....jesse or al would threaten a boycott of cbs or any company advertising on cbs like they did to pepsi(i think) a few years back.

[max]

 

Again, what did Sharpton say in regards to the Duke thing? I've looked online, because I keep hearing that he needs to apologize, and I can't find anything particularly inflammatory or slanderous attributed to him. I don't doubt that he said something, but I just don't know what he said.

 

 

 

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,192277,00.html

 

Here are a couple of pieces from an interview about the Duke case from that article.

 

O'REILLY: Why are we standing up for the girl if there is the possibility, based upon evidence, that the girl may have fabricated the story? Why don't we all pull back and let the authorities investigate and let the legal system work?

 

SHARPTON: Well, first of all, the authorities have charged there was a crime, so they are not saying that at all. Second of all, people on any side of an argument have the ride to advocate on behalf of who they believe. Thirdly, I think that when the prosecutors went forward, they clearly have said this girl is the victim, so why would we be trying the victim and not the...

 

'REILLY: I don't want to try anybody, but there is enough evidence that has surfaced here. We have evidence that DNA doesn't match the kids. We have evidence that ABC News uncovered that there is a recording made by a security guard who looked at the victim after she said she was raped and said there was no problem and we have a police officer who found the victim drunk in a car in a 7-Eleven who phoned it in before she went to the hospital. So when you have three elements like that, I say there is reasonable doubt right now. You know what the grand jury proceeding is.

 

SHARPTON: Absolutely.

 

O'REILLY: It's a one-sided proceeding.

 

SHARPTON: But I think that all of the facts that you have laid out the DA had — and I know this DA is probably not one that is crazy. He would not have proceeded if he did not feel that he could convict. So it tells me that all of what you said is either not true or he has convincing evidence that would certainly knock that out and no one is not letting him proceed. You know, a lot of those community leaders down there, pro and con, wanted a lot of people to come in. I know for a fact asked Jesse Jackson to come, we said we don't want to be (INAUDIBLE)...

 

Edited April 13, 2007 by max

[Ursa Majoris]

Don Imus' worst problem by far if I'd been the dad of one of these girls would have been me.

 

While I don't care one way or the other about Imus, Sharpton or any other yapping head, or what they say, what possesses someone to call a bunch of girls nappy-headed hos? Imus is guilty of crass idiocy - he knows what the reaction was likely to be and still failed to shut his piehole. He's a fool.

[max]

Don Imus' worst problem by far if I'd been the dad of one of these girls would have been me.

 

While I don't care one way or the other about Imus, Sharpton or any other yapping head, or what they say, what possesses someone to call a bunch of girls nappy-headed hos? Imus is guilty of crass idiocy - he knows what the reaction was likely to be and still failed to shut his piehole. He's a fool.

 

 

Agreed

[dmarc117]

Don Imus' worst problem by far if I'd been the dad of one of these girls would have been me.

 

While I don't care one way or the other about Imus, Sharpton or any other yapping head, or what they say, what possesses someone to call a bunch of girls nappy-headed hos? Imus is guilty of crass idiocy - he knows what the reaction was likely to be and still failed to shut his piehole. He's a fool.

 

 

 

and what would do? kick his ass? he called them a name, big friggin deal!! you'd be setting a great example for your 'kid' by doing something stupid over a name.

Edited April 13, 2007 by dmarc117

[wiegie]

and what would do? kick his ass? he called them a name, big friggin deal!! you'd be setting a great example for your 'kid' by doing something stupid over a name.

 

diktart has a point

[dmarc117]

diktart has a point

 

 

 

my dad is on his way to kick your asss!!!!

[Puddy]

LMAO at blaming others for the results of Imus' words.

 

 

Oh and tell him Shaun Cassidy called and wants his hair back.

[Wolverines Fan]

 

What possesses someone to call a bunch of girls nappy-headed hos? Imus is guilty of crass idiocy - he knows what the reaction was likely to be and still failed to shut his piehole. He's a fool.

 

 

 

Agreed. He fell on his sword. You would think that somebody who has been around radio as long as he has would know where the line is. I've never listened to his show, but I keep hearing that he notorious for saying controversial things. And if I had a daughter on the Rutgers womens' hoops team, I'm sure I'd be really .

 

I wonder if Rush Limbaugh is the next target of Al and the Sharpton crew?

Edited April 13, 2007 by Wolverines Fan

[Scorcher]

I think he should team up with Starr Jones and start a syndicated show!

[Puddy]

I wonder if Rush Limbaugh is the next target of Al and the Sharpton crew?

 

 

Local radio guys were talking about this today. I guess he called Barack Obama and Halle Berry (I think) halfricans because they are bi-racial. They were wondering why no firestorm over that

[montster]

Don Imus' worst problem by far if I'd been the dad of one of these girls would have been me.

 

While I don't care one way or the other about Imus, Sharpton or any other yapping head, or what they say, what possesses someone to call a bunch of girls nappy-headed hos? Imus is guilty of crass idiocy - he knows what the reaction was likely to be and still failed to shut his piehole. He's a fool.

 

 

i heard some clips of the rutgers girls talking about this (admittedly, it was on the stern show, but they were the real audio clips). a few of them said how imus' words ruined their moment and everything they had done. how? if it were my daughter, i would tell her there are plenty people in life who will try to stand in her way or bring her down, and a moran on a radio show is pretty much near the bottom of the list, no matter how many people listen to him. i'd tell her if she helped accomplish something no one else thought she could do and she's letting the words of some idiot who's never met her ruin it for her, then yes, i'd feel bad for her, but not because of what imus said.

 

and for the record, i'm no imus fan, and while he should've expected some heat from this, firing him was a way worse punishment than he deserved.

[wiegie]

Interesting article:

 

Imus isn’t the real bad guy

Instead of wasting time on irrelevant shock jock, black leaders need to be fighting a growing gangster culture.

By JASON WHITLOCK - Columnist

 

Thank you, Don Imus. You’ve given us (black people) an excuse to avoid our real problem.

 

You’ve given Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson another opportunity to pretend that the old fight, which is now the safe and lucrative fight, is still the most important fight in our push for true economic and social equality.

 

You’ve given Vivian Stringer and Rutgers the chance to hold a nationally televised recruiting celebration expertly disguised as a news conference to respond to your poor attempt at humor.

 

Thank you, Don Imus. You extended Black History Month to April, and we can once again wallow in victimhood, protest like it’s 1965 and delude ourselves into believing that fixing your hatred is more necessary than eradicating our self-hatred.

 

The bigots win again.

 

While we’re fixated on a bad joke cracked by an irrelevant, bad shock jock, I’m sure at least one of the marvelous young women on the Rutgers basketball team is somewhere snapping her fingers to the beat of 50 Cent’s or Snoop Dogg’s or Young Jeezy’s latest ode glorifying nappy-headed pimps and hos.

 

I ain’t saying Jesse, Al and Vivian are gold-diggas, but they don’t have the heart to mount a legitimate campaign against the real black-folk killas.

 

It is us. At this time, we are our own worst enemies. We have allowed our youths to buy into a culture (hip hop) that has been perverted, corrupted and overtaken by prison culture. The music, attitude and behavior expressed in this culture is anti-black, anti-education, demeaning, self-destructive, pro-drug dealing and violent.

 

Rather than confront this heinous enemy from within, we sit back and wait for someone like Imus to have a slip of the tongue and make the mistake of repeating the things we say about ourselves.

 

It’s embarrassing. Dave Chappelle was offered $50 million to make racially insensitive jokes about black and white people on TV. He was hailed as a genius. Black comedians routinely crack jokes about white and black people, and we all laugh out loud.

 

I’m no Don Imus apologist. He and his tiny companion Mike Lupica blasted me after I fell out with ESPN. Imus is a hack.

 

But, in my view, he didn’t do anything outside the norm for shock jocks and comedians. He also offered an apology. That should’ve been the end of this whole affair. Instead, it’s only the beginning. It’s an opportunity for Stringer, Jackson and Sharpton to step on victim platforms and elevate themselves and their agenda$.

 

I watched the Rutgers news conference and was ashamed.

 

Martin Luther King Jr. spoke for eight minutes in 1963 at the March on Washington. At the time, black people could be lynched and denied fundamental rights with little thought. With the comments of a talk-show host most of her players had never heard of before last week serving as her excuse, Vivian Stringer rambled on for 30 minutes about the amazing season her team had.

 

Somehow, we’re supposed to believe that the comments of a man with virtually no connection to the sports world ruined Rutgers’ wonderful season. Had a broadcaster with credibility and a platform in the sports world uttered the words Imus did, I could understand a level of outrage.

 

But an hourlong press conference over a man who has already apologized, already been suspended and is already insignificant is just plain intellectually dishonest. This is opportunism. This is a distraction.

 

In the grand scheme, Don Imus is no threat to us in general and no threat to black women in particular. If his words are so powerful and so destructive and must be rebuked so forcefully, then what should we do about the idiot rappers on BET, MTV and every black-owned radio station in the country who use words much more powerful and much more destructive?

 

I don’t listen or watch Imus’ show regularly. Has he at any point glorified selling crack cocaine to black women? Has he celebrated black men shooting each other randomly? Has he suggested in any way that it’s cool to be a baby-daddy rather than a husband and a parent? Does he tell his listeners that they’re suckers for pursuing education and that they’re selling out their race if they do?

 

When Imus does any of that, call me and I’ll get upset. Until then, he is what he is — a washed-up shock jock who is very easy to ignore when you’re not looking to be made a victim.

 

No. We all know where the real battleground is. We know that the gangsta rappers and their followers in the athletic world have far bigger platforms to negatively define us than some old white man with a bad radio show. There’s no money and lots of danger in that battle, so Jesse and Al are going to sit it out.

Whitlock was on CNN tonight and commented that he couldn't understand how a man that the players had probably never even heard of before could somehow make a comment that would take away the players' happiness and ability to be successful in life.

[Ursa Majoris]

Agree with virtually all that. Imus is still a fool for giving idiots like Sharpton the opportunity though.

[major-tom]

Not to the point but this much is true in Whitlock's article:

 

"a washed-up shock jock who is very easy to ignore"

 

It amazes me that his show continued to get the ratings, but I guess if you know a bunch of high profile people and have them on your show, it doesn't matter how bad the shock jock comedy part of the show is.

[godtomsatan]

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,192277,00.html

 

Here are a couple of pieces from an interview about the Duke case from that article.

 

O'REILLY: Why are we standing up for the girl if there is the possibility, based upon evidence, that the girl may have fabricated the story? Why don't we all pull back and let the authorities investigate and let the legal system work?

 

SHARPTON: Well, first of all, the authorities have charged there was a crime, so they are not saying that at all. Second of all, people on any side of an argument have the ride to advocate on behalf of who they believe. Thirdly, I think that when the prosecutors went forward, they clearly have said this girl is the victim, so why would we be trying the victim and not the...

 

'REILLY: I don't want to try anybody, but there is enough evidence that has surfaced here. We have evidence that DNA doesn't match the kids. We have evidence that ABC News uncovered that there is a recording made by a security guard who looked at the victim after she said she was raped and said there was no problem and we have a police officer who found the victim drunk in a car in a 7-Eleven who phoned it in before she went to the hospital. So when you have three elements like that, I say there is reasonable doubt right now. You know what the grand jury proceeding is.

 

SHARPTON: Absolutely.

 

O'REILLY: It's a one-sided proceeding.

 

SHARPTON: But I think that all of the facts that you have laid out the DA had — and I know this DA is probably not one that is crazy. He would not have proceeded if he did not feel that he could convict. So it tells me that all of what you said is either not true or he has convincing evidence that would certainly knock that out and no one is not letting him proceed. You know, a lot of those community leaders down there, pro and con, wanted a lot of people to come in. I know for a fact asked Jesse Jackson to come, we said we don't want to be (INAUDIBLE)...

 

 

 

This is the only thing I've seen attributed to Sharpton. How is anything you bolded inflammatory?

[godtomsatan]

Whitlock was on CNN tonight and commented that he couldn't understand how a man that the players had probably never even heard of before could somehow make a comment that would take away the players' happiness and ability to be successful in life.

 

 

Yes, men say offensive things about women all the time. Get used to it.

[wildcat2334]

Whitlock is on the money, what an excellent take on the whole ordeal. This thing is so blown out of proportion it is embarassing for all involved-

[Apathy]

This is the only thing I've seen attributed to Sharpton. How is anything you bolded inflammatory?

 

I agree with you GTS...I don't recall Sharpton saying anything controversial, one way or the other, about the Duke case. The man is a complete idiot but you would hope he learned his lesson from Tawana Brawley. By the way, if he owes an apology to anybody, it should be to Steve Pagones.

 

But he also didn't offer any aid or support to the Duke players, after being so quick to "rescue" a mostly black group of females from an equally stupid curmudgeon. Now, again, perhaps this was due to the fact that he made a complete a@@ of himself 20 years ago, but it seems a little one-sided to me, especially when you consider the likelihood that Crystal Gail Magnum has a history of falsely accusing people of rape.

 

Of course it's not nearly as bad as Jesse Jackson, who I think offered to pay for Mangum to go to college, regardless of whether she lied or not. In the meantime, three white men and their families have been put through the wringer - both emotionally and financially. Where is Jesse Jackson to support them? Oprah is having the Rutgers women on her show. When is the Duke men's show airing?

 

Don Imus is a rather unfunny, asinine old man and there may be financial reasons for canning him but the result of the double standard playing out here is that a new liberal Presidential regime won't need to waste time worrying about reincarnating the Fairness Doctrine.

[untateve]

Interesting article:

Whitlock was on CNN tonight and commented that he couldn't understand how a man that the players had probably never even heard of before could somehow make a comment that would take away the players' happiness and ability to be successful in life.

 

 

good article.