CaP'N GRuNGe Posted May 16, 2007 Share Posted May 16, 2007 What's it like to live in the bubble of a no spin zone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Swerski Posted May 16, 2007 Share Posted May 16, 2007 (edited) What the F are you talking about Gumpy? People are trashing O'Reily because he called Anna Nicole a confused selfish attention whore I don't see O'Reilly calling anybody a "whore" in that article. And I'd say that calling somebody "selfish" and "confused" isn't comparable to what has been said about Falwell over the past 24 hours. People are trashing O'Reily because he is a biased loudmouth hypocrite to the nth degree. No, people are trashing O'Reilly because he's a conservative and he's more powerful than the millions of clueless, immature left-wingers on the internet. Edited May 16, 2007 by Bill Swerski Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Beatings Posted May 16, 2007 Share Posted May 16, 2007 Where is Elton John when you need him? Candle in the Wind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaP'N GRuNGe Posted May 16, 2007 Share Posted May 16, 2007 I don't see O'Reilly calling anybody a "whore" in that article. And I'd say that calling somebody "selfish" and "confused" isn't comparable to what has been said about Falwell over the past 24 hours. No, people are trashing O'Reilly because he's a conservative and he's more powerful than the millions of clueless, immature left-wingers on the internet. I haven't been tuned in like you apparently have been to all the haters. What's been said about Falwell in the past 24 hours? And is it or is it not factually true? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ursa Majoris Posted May 16, 2007 Share Posted May 16, 2007 Where is Elton John when you need him? Candle in the Wind Nice use of a rarely used graemlin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikesVikes Posted May 16, 2007 Author Share Posted May 16, 2007 Comparing Anna Nicole and Jerry Fallwell is idiocy. Yes it is. But comparing O'Reilly's stance in both cases isn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushwacked Posted May 16, 2007 Share Posted May 16, 2007 (edited) How firm does one have to clamped on O'Reilly's sac to not see the hypocracy in this? 4 days after Anna Nicole dies: Anna Nicole Smith was a confused woman desperately seeking attention, but there comes a time in every person's life when you make a choice. You either use the abilities God has given to you help other people, or you decide to devote your life to selfish pursuits. Now one of the pursuits is intoxication. -- No question it's selfish. 1 day after Falwell dies: Rev. Jerry Falwell is dead, and already his legacy and his person are being criticized by some on the far-left. Like his politics or not, shouldn't the dead be given respect? Edited May 16, 2007 by bushwacked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Swerski Posted May 16, 2007 Share Posted May 16, 2007 (edited) How firm does one have to clamped on O'Reilly's sac to not see the hypocracy in this? How much of a left-wing tool does one have to be to not understand that it's completely tactless to personally attack somebody (even a - gasp! - conservative) ON THE VERY DAY that he dies? Farrakhan could die today and I'd reserve my dislike of him for a couple of days, simply out of respect for him as a human being. Edited May 16, 2007 by Bill Swerski Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushwacked Posted May 16, 2007 Share Posted May 16, 2007 How much of a left-wing tool does one have to be to understand that it's completely tactless to personally attack somebody (even a - gasp! - conservative) ON THE VERY DAY that he dies? What does that have to do with the price of tea in China? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaP'N GRuNGe Posted May 16, 2007 Share Posted May 16, 2007 Did all these so called personal attacks take place by women while they were having partial birth abortions and simultaneously burning American Flags? Were they joined by gay men who are working feverishly to destroy the church and as a hobby wage a war on Christmas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Swerski Posted May 16, 2007 Share Posted May 16, 2007 What does that have to do with the price of tea in China? It's called respect for the recently-departed. This concept goes back thousands of years. Remember the outrage in The Illiad when Achilles killed Hector and then dragged his body back to his camp? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Cid Posted May 16, 2007 Share Posted May 16, 2007 How firm does one have to clamped on O'Reilly's sac to not see the hypocracy in this? 4 days after Anna Nicole dies: 1 day after Falwell dies: Forget it man. Swerski isn't actually reading or listening to what Bill O' is saying he's only listening to what others are saying about Bill O. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushwacked Posted May 16, 2007 Share Posted May 16, 2007 (edited) It's called respect for the recently-departed. So there is some mysterious timeline where you can criticize the recently-departed but it depends on a multitude of extenuating circumstances. 1-day for a crackpot televangelist is too soon but 4 days for a drugged out ex-playboy model/entertainer is okay. Are us left-wingers privy to this info or can I only get my Acceptable Criticism After death - Time vs. Career Accomplishsments Chart from the O'Reilly factor? Edited May 16, 2007 by bushwacked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ursa Majoris Posted May 16, 2007 Share Posted May 16, 2007 How much of a left-wing tool does one have to be to not understand that it's completely tactless to personally attack somebody (even a - gasp! - conservative) ON THE VERY DAY that he dies? Farrakhan could die today and I'd reserve my dislike of him for a couple of days, simply out of respect for him as a human being. Tactless, schmactless. Farrakhan is another nutbag. He'll be a nutbag the day before he dies, the day he dies and his death won't change that. What's the point in being hypocritical for a day or two when in a few days time, you're going to call him out just like before he died? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H8tank Posted May 16, 2007 Share Posted May 16, 2007 "tzs," on Marcotte's blog: "If Mr. Falwell had not used his life to spew hatred at anyone who did not fit his narrow-minded, bigoted idea of who was a True God-fearing American™, one might feel more willing to refrain from stating what an absolutely putrid little excrescence of vomit he was. But I'm being polite, so I won't say that. R.I.P., and after watching Falwell I know know why the Romans threw the Christians to the lions." "Blue_In_AK" on DemocraticUnderground.com: "he was such an unctuous, smug, obnoxious blowhard that it's really difficult not to celebrate his death. I'm trying, but it's .... so .... HARD." "andyesmysoulwillrotinhell," on TMZ.com: "First class a--h---..now worm food...the world finally makes sense." "roewert," on WashingtonPost.com: "Good ridence. Jerry al Falwell was imbicile who thought that the whole world should think and believe just like him. Too bad there were so many gullible people in this country who fell for his nonsense and sent so much money to him. So does this mean that Pat bin Robertson moves up to the slot of chief idiot? The Christian taliban marches on...." Alan Wolfe begins a Salon.com dyslogy, "One never wants to speak ill of the dead, but in the case of Jerry Falwell, how can one not?" In other news... uriously, one man who has kind things to say about Falwell is pornographer Larry Flynt. Access Hollywood quotes Flynt's statement on Falwell's death: The Reverend Jerry Falwell and I were arch enemies for fifteen years. We became involved in a lawsuit concerning First Amendment rights and Hustler magazine. Without question, this was my most important battle--the 1988 Hustler Magazine, Inc., v. Jerry Falwell case, where after millions of dollars and much deliberation, the Supreme Court unanimously ruled in my favor. My mother always told me that no matter how much you dislike a person, when you meet them face to face you will find characteristics about them that you like. Jerry Falwell was a perfect example of that. I hated everything he stood for, but after meeting him in person, years after the trial, Jerry Falwell and I became good friends. He would visit me in California and we would debate together on college campuses. I always appreciated his sincerity even though I knew what he was selling and he knew what I was selling. The most important result of our relationship was the landmark decision from the Supreme Court that made parody protected speech, and the fact that much of what we see on television and hear on the radio today is a direct result of my having won that now famous case which Falwell played such an important role in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushwacked Posted May 16, 2007 Share Posted May 16, 2007 Forget it man. Swerski isn't actually reading or listening to what Bill O' is saying he's only listening to what others are saying about Bill O. Yeh...At least Bill usually knows what he is wrongly arguing bout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaP'N GRuNGe Posted May 16, 2007 Share Posted May 16, 2007 It's called respect for the recently-departed. This concept goes back thousands of years. Remember the outrage in The Illiad when Achilles killed Hector and then dragged his body back to his camp? Wow!!! The heathens drug Falwell's body through the streets too! I must have missed it. I bet it was a Fox News exclusive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H8tank Posted May 16, 2007 Share Posted May 16, 2007 ...his foes portrayed him as a hater, in large part because of the hatred he inspired in them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaP'N GRuNGe Posted May 16, 2007 Share Posted May 16, 2007 Pretty funny coming from a guy with your username H8. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Swerski Posted May 16, 2007 Share Posted May 16, 2007 Tactless, schmactless. Farrakhan is another nutbag. He'll be a nutbag the day before he dies, the day he dies and his death won't change that. What's the point in being hypocritical for a day or two when in a few days time, you're going to call him out just like before he died? I wouldn't say it's being "hypocritical for a day or two." On some level, I believe that everybody (even bushwacked) has some good in them and deserves some respect as a human being. Because of that, I try to show a little more respect than they might deserve (although my record is far from perfect). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azazello1313 Posted May 16, 2007 Share Posted May 16, 2007 in one case, in his own words, fallwell shouldn't be criticized because the dead deserve respect. not dead people who had "redeeming qualities" (and as far as redeeming qualities, i'll take anna nicole's knockers over anything fallwell had to offer anyway). as far as i can tell, anna nicole was just as dead as fallwell a couple days (three months, swerski?) after she died. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Swerski Posted May 16, 2007 Share Posted May 16, 2007 in one case, in his own words, fallwell shouldn't be criticized because the dead deserve respect. not dead people who had "redeeming qualities" (and as far as redeeming qualities, i'll take anna nicole's knockers over anything fallwell had to offer anyway). as far as i can tell, anna nicole was just as dead as fallwell a couple days (three months, swerski?) after she died. If O'Reilly is kissing Falwell's ass eight days from now, then yeah, he might be a bit of a hypocrite. But I think that some of the quotes posted on the web (shown above) THE FREAKING DAY THAT HE DIED are incredibly tactless (and not even in the same league as what O'Reilly said about Anna Nicole NINE DAYS after she died). I think that's what O'Reilly was getting at. JMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azazello1313 Posted May 17, 2007 Share Posted May 17, 2007 (edited) If O'Reilly is kissing Falwell's ass eight days from now, then yeah, he might be a bit of a hypocrite. But I think that some of the quotes posted on the web (shown above) THE FREAKING DAY THAT HE DIED are incredibly tactless (and not even in the same league as what O'Reilly said about Anna Nicole NINE DAYS after she died). I think that's what O'Reilly was getting at. JMO. by "posted on the web", you mean the anonymous comments on leftwing blogs h8 posted? because if that's all you've got, i'd say you're reaching (to put it mildly). i'm glad to see that "THREE MONTHS" has now become a mere "NINE DAYS"....but neither is accurate. she died on may 8, he was calling her a trashy drug ho on may 12, the first monday show after that weekend, and he seems to be commenting directly in response to questions why he didn't say anything about it on the previous show on friday. twelve minus eight is four, not nine (or ninety). so it was right in the immediate media aftermath of her death that he said that stuff, and it was the first thing he said about her death. dude is obviously a hypocrite here, and you're twisting in the wind trying to defend him. Edited May 17, 2007 by Azazello1313 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaterMan Posted May 17, 2007 Share Posted May 17, 2007 May he rest in pieces. Most of those pieces will be that of hate and pig fat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtomicCEO Posted May 17, 2007 Share Posted May 17, 2007 I find high high comedy that anyone should say Falwell should be respected in death after the absolutely classless and horrible things he said about AIDS deaths and 9/11. The man clearly had no respect for the dead himself. As the bible says, "The love that you take is equal to the love that you make." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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